Talk:Iraq

Semi-protected edit request on 31 May 2014

Hi, the information on Iraq is garbage. The country pumps out 2.5 million barrels of oil per day. The article says they have $229 billion in oil revenue last year. Oil is around $100 a barrel, and has been for a few years. This is obvious nonsense. Thanks.http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304914904579438860227481506

http://oil-price.net/dashboard.php?lang=en

TimmyCat62.9 (talk) 03:35, 31 May 2014 (UTC)

Not done: Thanks for sharing your opinion. If you would like to make an edit request, please capture the change you would like to make in a 'please change X to Y' format and provide reliable sources for any factual changes. Older and ... well older (talk) 15:23, 31 May 2014 (UTC)

Galloway167 (talk) 18:55, 31 May 2014 (UTC)The article is correct. Iraq exports about $91B (2013 estimate), and 84% of that is crude ( https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/iz.html and click on economy). So then .84 * 91B / 365 / $100/barrel = 2.094mbpd . The entire GDP of Iraq is about $229B, not oil revenue. Whether or not the oil INDUSTRY is 97% of GDP I don't know, but its possible. But each dollar or Dinar gets counted multiple times. e.g. of that 100/barrel say 50 goes to buy services from Iraqis, that 50 is counted AGAIN in GDP. Then those workers take their pay and buy lunch made entirely in Iraq, that gets counted AGAIN. The ratio is only so low ($76B dollars of oil exports only translating to only $200 or so billion in GDP) due to so many products and services being purchased from outside of Iraq and that they are exporting raw recourses (crude) instead of products requiring more work (gasoline, plastics, etc).

Largest cities

I noticed that the list of largest cities (in the "Demographics" section) gives completely different data to the link used to support it. I'm not sure if the link passes RS in any case. Just thought I'd leave a note here. Formerip (talk) 00:32, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

Iraq's ethnic structure : % 75 Arabs ,% 15-17 Kurdish , % 8-9 Turks ([Iraqi Turkmens]),% 2-3 Other (Assyrian-Chaldean-yezidi-shabaks) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.140.219.29 (talk) 09:03, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

Orphaned references in Iraq

I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Iraq's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "latimes2701":

• From Iraqi insurgency (post-U.S. withdrawal): "Suicide bomber kills 32 at Baghdad funeral march". Fox News. Associated Press. 27 January 2012. Retrieved 22 April 2012.
• From Iraqi insurgency (Iraq War): http://www.latimes.com/news/la-fgw-iraq-bombing-20120128,0,1715253.story. {{cite news}}: Missing or empty |title= (help); Unknown parameter |deadurl= ignored (|url-status= suggested) (help)

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 17:49, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

The LA Times source is a dead link, but it has been archived by archive.org here. The Fox News source displays the exact same Associated Press source text, and is therefore probably more appropriate. I'll put that in now. Apples grow on pines (talk) 09:21, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

Change Opening Sentence to "was" ?

Iraq has now effectively ceased to exist as we knew it. Is it time to change the opening sentence to "Iraq was ..." ? Just a thought my fellow editors. SmokeyTheCat 18:22, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

What an odd comment. Do you know something the rest of us don't? Atshal (talk) 20:02, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

Iraq Independence label

Hello,

On the right margin with its name and flag, on the Government or Independence tab; it says that Iraq (one of the oldest and civilized nations) gained independence from England - the albino mutant, the giant hill. I find this very demeaning to a former Persian province. It should be changed immediately to mention its glorious history and its Persian ties. I believe that it should be labelled as Establishments instead.

I hope you will consider the changes, and down with Zionist-controlled internet. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.162.167.144 (talk) 01:10, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

The article nowhere mentions "England", nor "albino mutant", nor "giant hill". Maproom (talk) 08:33, 6 July 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 June 2014

The list of governorates does not match the map on the right side (number 19, Halabja, is not shown). That map should be discarded. Instead, the map linked to in Governorates of Iraq should be used. 98.14.104.193 (talk) 02:27, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

 Not Done - Halabja is shown on the map in the article. DJAMP4444 18:26, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

I don't see it there. The map shows it as part of Sulaymaniyah. Maproom (talk) 08:34, 6 July 2014 (UTC)

Lots of sections have no citation

I've tried to improve this article these past two days but there's still A LOT of work that needs to be done. I've also tagged many of the sections that don't have any references or only use on source. These are probably a good place to start. Good luck!Monopoly31121993 (talk) 17:02, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

History is largely about U.S.

I've tried to improve the history sections. They were total garbage before and were basically just a random group of facts lumped into a series of successive paragraphs (no joke). A main problem is that because of the wars or whatever the sections are heavily biased toward the U.S. and including American actions into this country level article. It would be nice to know something about the development and changes within Iraq's society, economy and government during these periods but as it stands it's really focused on wars and not much is said about these other things. I remember hearing that Iraq was one of the richest countries in the Middle East prior to the 1980s/90s and that the country wasn't pulling apart in the 50s,60s, 70s, etc. So basic edits to improve this neglected content can be done by just reading and summarizing the History sections from the Wikipedia history of Iraq pages. The key is to keep it short, provide the links to important themes and don't get wrapped up in minutia. Good luck!Monopoly31121993 (talk) 17:02, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

Republic and Ba'athist Iraq

3rd para, second sentence "Quote: This subsequently led to military intervention by United States-led forces in the second Gulf War.Unquote" I served on H.M.C.S Protecteur in 1991 in this Gulf War. I always considered this to be the first Gulf War and not the "second" Gulf War.70.64.207.176 (talk) 01:51, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

So did I. And so do the sources I have checked. I guess this was a simple mistake, and have corrected it. Maproom (talk) 08:36, 6 July 2014 (UTC)

RfC on Iraqi Kurdistan's level of autonomy

I would like to invite editors to comment at RfC proposal on Iraqi Kurdistan's level of autonomy, essentially resolving whether Iraqi Kurdistan should or shouldn't be added to the "other Dependent territories" under Asia topic.GreyShark (dibra) 18:06, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

با عرض سلام خدمت اهل سنت و سنيان عزيز و گرامي در عراق و در کل جهان .ممکنه براتون جاي سئوال باشه چه چيز موجب شده که بيام و مجددا در حضور شما صحبت بکنم و موضوع صحبتم در چه خصوص است.اين صحبت من درواقع يه درخواست ازتون هست و درواقع ادامه صحبتي هست که در خصوص حل درگيري ها و ناملايمت ها که مسلما بين شما و شيعه وجود دارد.سنيان عزيز اگه يادتون باشه من در متن مباحثه قبلم در خصوص تشکيل يک سازمان واحد و يک حزب باهاتون صحبت کردم و نيز در خصوص عدم مخالفت هيچ کس و نيز کمک من به شما در خصوص تشکيل اين حزب گفتم درسته قبول دارم علت اصلي اين درگيري ها در گفتن زور به شماست و اعتقاد شما به قول خودشون ميخوان دين اسلام بشه يک دين واحد اما نمي دونن اصل دين در افتادن ياد انسان به خدا و فراموش نکردن خداست چيزي که واقعا در دنياي امروز خيلي ضعيف شده فقط تنها چيزي که بر جاي مونده تنها لفظي هست که ما به ياد خدا هستيم چون نماز ميخونيم چون نيايش ميکنيم ما به ياد خدا هستيم چون مدام خدا رو نيايش ميکنيم اما در حضور خدا دست به هزاران جنايانت و اعمال ير انساني ميزنن مسلما در ان لحظه که دست به چنين اعمالي ميزنن خدا رو فراموش ميکنند يا اگه هم به ياد داشته باشن مسلما از خدا نمي ترسن و کسي که از خدا نترسد مسلما بهش اعتقاد ندارد چون هر اندازه که عقيده انسان نسبت به خدا قوي تر بشه بيشتر به هيبت و بزرگي خدا پي ميبرد مثل ديدن خورشيد از نزديک با ديد خورشيد از داخل يه سوراخ با فاصله هزاران متري هست مسلما زماني ميشه قدرت و شدت گرامي خورشيد رو ديد که از نزديک مشاهده اش کرد از نزديک حسش کرد و به همون اندازه که نزديک خورشيد ميشي از اشعهشديد خورشيد نمي توني طاقت بياري چون چشمان رو نابينا و پوست بدن را مي سوزاند اين همون حد انسان در مشاهده خداست به همون اندازه که انسان به هيبت خدا پي ببرد در محضرش هيچ گاه دست به اعمال غير انساني نميزند و اما چيزي که الان در دنياي امروز وجود دارد ديدن خورشيد از دال يه سوراخ در فاصله هزار متري هست خوب ببينيد خوب نگاه کنيد به جنگ ها درگيري هاي ايجاد شده در عراق مسئولين کشور تحت عنوان قانوني به نام قانون اساسي دست به هزاران اعمال غير انساني ميزنند و با ادعاي اينکه داريم ديني واحد در عراق قرار ميديم و قانون اسلام رو پياده ميکنيم به مردم مخالف شون زور ميگن ايا کسي مي تونه به زور دين کسي رو تغيير بده؟ايا پيامبر به زور دين کسي رو تغيير داد پيامبر براي تغيير دين مردم و هدايت مردم باهاشون صحبت کرد از مخالفان ستم ديد اما باز باهاشون صحبت کرد اما عملکرد الان مسئولين کشور که ادعاي اسلام داري ميکنند زور هست به جاي اينکه اول با مخالفان صحبت ميکردن اين همه به مسئولين عراق گفتم در زمان فعاليتم قبل از سياست نوين اما هيچي به هيچي هنوزم که هنوزه تمام کاراشون از سر لج و لج بازي با من و گفته هام هست و من مطمئنم در اين لج و لج بازي مسئولين دولت ايران مقصرند اونم به دو دليل 1.به خاطر اينکه روابط رهبري ايران با مسئولين دولت عراق خيلي خوبه و2.اينکه چون من در مورد عملکرداشون که دارن با زور و شکنجه مخالفان نظم رو برقرار ميکنند و حکومتشونو به ثبت ميرسونن و يک قانون رو پياده ميکنند اونيکه که خودشون در نظر دارن و به زور اعتقاد مردمي رو که ممکنه هم عقيده اونا نباشن به دلايل در نظر گرفته خودشون تغيير ميدن در حاليکه خود مسئولين و حتي کسانيکه ادعاي دين داري اونم در دين شيعه رو ميکنند همچنان در دين اسلام و شيعه اش مفهوم شيعه رو متوجه نشدن و مفهوم اسلام رو.من نميخوام ادعا کنم که خودم دين دار خوبي هستم اما اينا که ادعاي کدخدا بودن ميکنند در دين داري اونقدر کامل نيستن در اسلام قانوني تحت عنوان اين نيست که ادما رو بدون تفکر در مورد خدا شناسي و انسان شناسي به زور به تبعيت از دين دعوت کنند اگه اين جور بود پيامبر حرکت اولشون رو براي دين داري مردم از اين روش استفاده ميکردن حتي در دين شيعه که من خودم مسلمان از نوع شيعه هستم هيچ امامي روش اول دعوتشون به اسلام و اسلام داري از زور نبوده با اينکه خيلي از مخالفان داشتن و با اينکه مدت زيادي از بنيانگذاري دين اسلام و اتمام مسئولين پيامبر در خصوص بنا نهادن اسلام گذشته بود خب اساس دين اسلام به دعوت نه جنگ هر دوره نسل جديد مياد با سئوال هاي جديد وقتي مسئولين به اصطلاح دين دار به زبان خودشون براي پاسخ گويي به سئوالات روش اولشونو براي براقراري نظم و نکنه اينکه حرفي زده بشه منافعشون به خطر بيوفته و منافعشونو در اولويت قرار بدن بنظرتون کار اونا روش درستي هست ممکنه بگيد اين روش درستي هست چون مخالفاني هست در اين ميان ممکنه از اين شيوه مسئولين کشور سو استفاده کنند و بيشتر مردم رو بکشن اما من ميگم اگه از روش اول استفاده کنن که کردن خودتون ببينيد هم مردم دارن هر روز کشته ميشن و جونشون در خطر هست هم شماري از مخالفان و اعضاي مسئولين دولت دارن ميميرن پس اين نشون ميده روششون لنگ داره ولي اگه اول از روش صحبت استفاده کنند مسلما چون روش صحبت هست در بين مخالفان اونايي که سو استفاده گر هستن و اونايي که مخالف با دليل منطقي هستن کاملا مجزا ميشن و اين کمکي هست براي مسئولين دولت که بتونن ببين در بين مخالفان چه کساني واقعا مخالف هستن و چه کساني سو استفاده گرند در ثاني در اين روش ماندگار بيشتري براي تبعيت از قوانين حکومت هست و اتحاد اما زور باعث نمايش چهره بد مسئولسن در ذهن مردم ميشه که حتي اونايي هم که تابع مسئولين خواهند بود اگه وابسته به منافع و پول و قدرت نباشن به مرور زمان از عملکردهاي مسئولين سرد خواهند شد و کساني که حمايت از دولت ميکنند يا براي پورسانت خواهد بود يا براي چشم و هم چشمي خب اين نميشه اتحاد و مفهوم اصلي اتحاد اين نيست.براي برقراري اتحاد مسلما روش صحبت مناسب ترين روش هست و حال براي قراري نظم بعد از اينکه در صحبت بين افراد مخالف سو استفاده گران مشخص شدن براي سر به راه کردنشون از روش زور استفاده ميکنند و نيز استفاده از روش نظامي بايد در درجه اول در خدمت نگهباني و حافظ مردم باشه اما من ميبينم بيشتر حافظ حکومت هست تا حافظ مردم چون روز به روز دارن شمار زيادي از مردم در نتيجه اين درگيري ها بين مسئولين و مخالفان کشته ميشن مسلما اگه حکومت نظامي در خدمت مردم باشه چرا دارن شمار زيادي از رمدم کشته ميشن اگه حامي مردم باشه بايد محافظشون باشه که جونشون به خطر نيوفته در ثاني در اين درگيري ها ومردم واقعا تحت عنوان يک وسيله استفاده شدن خب چرا؟ مردم چه گناهي کردن که بايد در اين درگيري که ميون مخالفان و مسئولين هست کشته بشن به اي مسئولين کشور که بايد حامي مردم باشن کوتاه بيان دارن در نتيجه لج و لج بازي با مردم مخالف چون به جاي اينکه از روش صحبت باهاشون استفاده کنن مثل اونا از روش زور استفاده ميکنند و اسمشو ميزارن اقتدار در حاليکه اين روششون ميشه ظلم و اونا ظالم هستن واقعا هم با ظلم فرقي نميکنه چون اونا به جاي ايکنه از روش صحبت استفاده کنن دارن جواب مخالفان رو با زور ميدن بعد وقتي من انتقاد ميکنم از روششون قانون اساسيشونو به رخخ ميکشن در حاليکه اگه قانون اساسي که به اصطلاح خودشون از قران گرفته شده روش درستي به اونا ميگه پس چرا دارن روز زور گويي رو ميگه طبق صحبت هاي بالاي من همين کارشون موجب شده که قربانيان اين لج و لج بازي تنها مردم باشن.من ازتون ميخوام شما براي تشکيل حزبتون تلاش کنيد تا جواب لج و لج بازي دادن هاي مسئولين رو کاري نداشته باشين اونا چي ميگن و قوانينشون چي هست چون شما دارين کار خودتونو انجام ميدين اگه اونا بخوان با اين کارتون مخالفت کنند پس اين مورد اثبات خواهد شد بر همگان که اونا دارن از شيوه زور بر شما استفاده ميکنند که اين ماندگاري حکومتشون کمتر ميکنند اگه هم بخوان بگن ما با زور ميخواييم اعتقاد رو عوض کنيم مسلما قانون اساسيشون زير سئوال خواهد رفت چون هيچ گاه در قران نوشته نشده که با زور بر مردم عقايدشونو تغيير بده حتي اساس قران که دعوت مردم به تفکر کردن هست نشان خواهد داد که هيچ گاه روش زور روشي نيست که اسلام گفته و زندگي نامه ائمه و اين موجب ميشه مسئوليني که حمايت از شيعه ميکنند زير سئوال برن من ازتون ميخوام براي تکشيل حزب وقتتونو بزاريد تا دادن جواب به مسئولين تا مردم نيز در ميان از درگيري ها بازيچه قرار گرفته نشن و کشته نشن.فکر کنم به اندازه کافي صحبت کردم و تمام موارد رو بيان کردم و ازتون ميخوام حتما روئيت فرماييد.با تشکر17:30, 10 July 2014 (UTC)Naghmehamit (talk)

Temple discovered

• http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/08/remains-temple-discovered-iraq_n_5567638.html

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87th? Seriously?

This page says that Iraq ranks 87th in hdi 2014 with 0.573 score. It actually has had 0.573 score ... in 2011 report, and ranked 132th. In 2014 report it scores 0.642 and ranks 120th globally. NOTHING harms Wikipedia image as much as these stupid mistakes, because THIS IS SO EASY TO CHECK. http://hdr.undp.org/sites/default/files/hdr14-summary-en.pdf Kaxovskiy (talk) 20:57, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

Amerli Turkmen

Islamic State of Iraq Damascus Turkmen resist terrorism won the battle Amerli

Amerli Turkmen

Iraqi forces 'reach besieged Amerli' — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.178.59.152 (talk) 19:52, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

Siege of Amirli