Talk:Frozen (2013 film)

Heads up re thoughts about breaking off "Franchise potential" section into new article on Frozen franchise

I am thinking about doing it after the Frozen special runs on September 2 rather than waiting until the OUAT fourth season premiere. By September 6-7 we will have some visibility into what Disney is doing next.

Planned tasks:

1. Transfer entire "Franchise potential" section into new article. 2. Develop lead paragraph to lead into successive sections. 3. Bring over all orphaned references from this article into new article. 4. Condense original section into new "Franchise" section in this article. Planned approach is to begin by discussing how Iger went from speaking of "franchise potential" to "top five franchises" in one quarter, then hit the key points: kids went crazy for music, merch, books, parks, TV crossover, musical, etc.

Any comments? --Coolcaesar (talk) 02:40, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

I don't think it will be sent to AfD if you proceed as said. It's a very good split overall.Forbidden User (talk) 15:47, 26 August 2014 (UTC)

Oh by the way, be careful with the references. It's one of the most difficult thing to deal with.Forbidden User (talk) 15:48, 26 August 2014 (UTC)

Sorry, I didn't get it. Why is transferring references difficult? ALittleQuenhi (talk to me) 04:58, 27 August 2014 (UTC)

The references may be defined elsewhere in the article meaning you will get a load of citation errors. It is easy to get around though: simply copy and paste the whole article and save it to the new page, and then just delete all the sections you don't want. You will still get a lot of citation errors but a bot will come along and retrieve the sources from the previous save within a few hours. It will save a lot of work. Betty Logan (talk) 08:33, 27 August 2014 (UTC)

Aka if only the citation shortcut instead of the entire citation is used in the bit that is being copied over, the reference won't work correctly. And vice versa.--Coin945 (talk) 08:41, 27 August 2014 (UTC)

Okay, now we know what they're going to do, so I'm splitting off the franchise content. As in right now. I'm making all the edits concurrently and then committing all at once. --Coolcaesar (talk) 08:24, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

The portrait room where Anna talks to the paintings

Does anyone know what all those Dutch master-y style paintings are based on? One is Jean-Honoré Fragonard's "The Swing"--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 04:47, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

Original research in the Plot section

@Quenhitran: the problem with the phrase , since her decision to sacrifice herself to save her sister constitutes an "act of true love" is that the other stuff mentioned in the Plot section is something people can see happening in the movie but a reason for something is not something we can see in a movie and it looks like it was inferred what was going on in the heads of the people who made the movie from what people saw in the movie. I actually did watch the movie but just because the snowman said "An act of true love will thaw a frozen heart" doesn't necessarily mean it's true and just because Elsa said "You sacrificed yourself for me" doesn't prove that Elsa guessed right what Anna's reason for sacrificing herself was. I'm not sure if there was a mistake in the Plot section; since Anna was frozen, shouldn't it be somebody loving Anna, not Anna loving somebody that causes Anna to thaw. Maybe the true love was Elsa grieving for Anna rather than Anna sacrificing herself for Elsa and maybe it's really Elsa grieving for Anna that caused Anna to thaw. Isn't it also original research to guess what true love really means. According to Wiktionary:true love, it seems to me that whether somebody has true love for somebody else is determined by what goes on in their head and not by their actions. Blackbombchu (talk) 13:58, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

"Life story" lawsuit

I think a lot of people, including myself, have recently heard that an author (Isabella Taikumi) is allegedly filing a lawsuit against Disney for $250 million, claiming that Frozen plagiarized her life story in her biographical book titled "Living My Truth"[1]. I'm just not sure if it should be added here or on the franchise page. TheMeaningOfBlah (talk) 04:40, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

@TheMeaningOfBlah: Not sure. :To which section does this information falls into?--Chamith (talk) 16:33, 18 October 2014 (UTC)

I think it should probably be put under the Release section, in a new subsection ("Life story lawsuit"?). TheMeaningOfBlah (talk) 17:15, 18 October 2014 (UTC)

Still not sure whether this should be included in the article because Wikipedia isn't a newspaper. I will wait for more comments from other editors--Chamith (talk) 17:25, 18 October 2014 (UTC)

Frozen UK sing-along release box office gross

I wonder if it should be added. I wonder if the box office results of atleast the first week of the re-release should be added to the article or not and whether it is feasible. KahnJohn27 (talk) 08:06, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

Yes, KahnJohn27, if you have any box office results with sources please add them here. I also read elsewhere that the film's sing-along version was also re-released in several Southeast Asian markets. If you have information regarding these markets then I would be glad. —ALittleQuenhi (talk to me) 10:15, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

Grammar error

"Flourish, which aided extra movement such as leaves and twigs to be art-directed": I don't think you can aid something to be something. Consider changing verb to allowed or enabled. 31.50.70.172 (talk) 13:43, 24 December 2014 (UTC)

There is nothing wrong with using aided in that sentence, as it means "assisted". But I do agree that "allowed" sounds better than aided there. And that word has been used in the next sentence (or sentence after that) so it sounds repetitive.--Chamith (talk) 13:58, 24 December 2014 (UTC)

I disagree that there is nothing wrong. The fact that "aid" and "assist" are synonyms does not mean that they are interchangeable everywhere. Consider "he was revealed to be a spy" (acceptable) vs. "he was uncovered to be a spy" (unacceptable). The "aided" use is just not idiomatic and sounds bizarre in English. 31.50.70.172 (talk) 14:39, 24 December 2014 (UTC)