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BracketBot – AndyFielding

User:A930913, User:Dru_of_Id, User:Legoktm, User:Bgwhite

Re my edit to Pyongyang

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=640357059

As you can see, I didn't edit that part of the text, so I assume this was an existing problem. Unfortunately, I don't know enough about that formatting syntax to presume to fix it.

Cheers, AndyFielding (talk) 09:51, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

@AndyFielding: You did edit that part of the text, possibly by accident? Check the lowest of the added lines or search the diff for "69LW4b6aw", and you'll find that you duplicated some of the code at the bottom of the page - minus two curly brackets. Fixed. Huon (talk) 10:26, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

Oh, okay. Sorry & thanks. – AndyFielding (talk) 08:20, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

Great catch, thanks!!

Great catch, the stray bracket in fn. 211 on the Mark Satin page. I'll never edit this late in the night again! - Babel41 (talk) 08:18, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

DefconBot percentages

Hi There.

Do you have any comment on the changes to the reported percentages at User:DefconBot.

Yaris678 (talk) 10:25, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

It seems clear that the percentages ought to add up to 100%.

However, the previous version of the table didn't bear much relation to current reality either. Over a 96-hour period in mid-December, when the bot appeared to be working continuously, the time periods at each level were:

Defcon Level	CVS range	Hours at this level	Percentage of time
1	> 5.7	22	22.9%
2	4.9-5.7	19	19.8%
3	4.3-4.9	13	13.5%
4	3.0-4.3	29	30.2%
5	< 3.0	13	13.5%
Total	-	96	99.9%

So although apparently intended to hit Level 1 only 1% of the time, it was in fact at that level 23% of the time. Does the bot manager need to adjust the thresholds?: Noyster (talk), 13:22, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

Hi Noyster. That is an interesting result. I imagine that this would change quite a bit from month to month. Perhaps it would make sense to remove the table from User:DefconBot and add in a statement along the lines of "Each defcon level will be in use an approximately equal amount of time."

That was just a suggestion. 930913 may prefer to modify the code to achieve the desifed result, rather than modifying the description to fit the measured result.

Yaris678 (talk) 14:13, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

@Yaris678 and Noyster: The thresholds currently used, I recall, are from the summer holidays when it was quiet. The thresholds ought to be regularly updated, as Wikipedia declines, but I've been busy and ill of recent. I could set the thresholds back to the old levels, but I should really do the maths to work out new levels when I feel better. 930913 {{ping}} 19:29, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

Thanks 930913 and I hope you're on the mend. I've suggested here that a different vandalism alert could possibly be derived from STiki queues, and would welcome any input there: Noyster (talk), 19:07, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

More disagreement on DefconBot percentages

Update: the following have happened since the above discussion:

• I changed the description of DefconBot, summarising (in my opinion) the discussion here.
• Creeper 919 reverted to an old version, with the edit summary "better version,school holiday part is not proved".
• Creeper 919 left a message on my talk page saying "I think the old version was correct, can you not change it again?"

I am pretty sure the old version is not correct, but I'd like to open up the discussion here, in case I have missed something.

Here are the two versions, side by side.

A Text in version edited by Yaris678 at 09:32, 8 January 2015 Update, based on User talk:A930913#DefconBot percentages. This doesn't necessarily describe the desired situation, but it describes the situation as it is at the moment

B Text in version edited by Creeper919 at 02:54, 11 January 2015 better version,school holiday part is not proved

It uses ClueBot NG to estimate how much vandalism is being performed, and sets the defcon level based on thresholds calculated to give specified percentages of time at each defcon level in a sample period. The percentages are as shown in the following table. The sample period was during a school holiday and so in other periods the percentages will be different. In particular, Defcons 1 and 2 may be more frequently used in more busy periods. Defcon Level Percentage of time 1 1% 2 10% 3 20% 4 60% 5 9%

It uses ClueBot NG to estimate how much vandalism is being performed, and sets the defcon level based on the threshold calculated by the calculated percentage of time that each defcon level should be at. The current percentages are shown in the following table. Defcon Level Percentage of time 1 90% 2 60% 3 20% 4 10% 5 1%

As we can see:

• Version A gives the percentages stated in the request for approval and then states why these are not correct in many cases.
• The percentages in Version A add up to 100%.
• The percentages in Version B add up to 181%.

I have not seen any source for the numbers in version B or any explanation as to why the numbers should not add up to 100%.

I have a feeling that Creeper919 has misunderstood something but I don't know what. Maybe I am missing something. Maybe something needs to be clarified about what the percentages mean. I am open to suggestion.

Yaris678 (talk) 11:39, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

@Yaris678: I have recalculated the thresholds using the period from the beginning of the year and have reverted the DefconBot userpage back to the original. (If anyone can utilise 181% of time, please let me know how.) 930913 {{ping}} 12:39, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

Just wanted to say thanks, you have a really nice program, BracketBot

CHEERS !!

A cold glass of Virtual Estrella Damm for A930913 relly nice program .. Hello, I'm BracketBot.

David Adam Kess (talk) 5th of January 2015 (UTC)

BracketBot – Sardanaphalus

User:A930913, User:Dru_of_Id, User:Legoktm, User:Bgwhite

Page: n/a

Diff: n/a

Comment/question: Could BracketBot insert an extra newline before the heading of the message it adds to a user's talkpage, please?
Thank you for a useful aid.

Sardanaphalus (talk) 10:08, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

ReferenceBot appears to be down

ReferenceBot appears to be down. It does not show any edits since December 29. – Jonesey95 (talk) 04:44, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

DefconBot source

Hi! Mind if you send me a copy of DefconBot's source? (via git, sftp, email, etc) Cheers, --L235 (talk) Ping when replying 02:22, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

@L235: It's on the labs, /data/project/defconbot/ and follow run.sh for all its messiness. 930913 {{ping}} 06:50, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

Thanks, I've made a copy in my homedir to look at. Cheers, --L235 (talk) Ping when replying 20:44, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

ReferenceBot – 71.229.133.175

User:A930913

Page: New Year's Resolution

Diff:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Year%27s_resolution

Comment/question: The robot said my edits caused a bad reference line to occur. I went through them and didn't spot any errors.

71.229.133.175 (talk) 03:05, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

ReferenceBot – ClintGoss

User:A930913

Page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_American_flute Diff: Clinton F. Goss (January 2015). "Native American Flute Ergonomics" (PDF). arXiv:1501.00910 Check |arxiv= value (help). Retrieved 7 Jan 2015. Comment/question: I am guessing that the arXiv checker needs to be updated, since it appears that, as of 2015, arXiv is issuing identifiers with 5 digits as their second component (e.g. 1234.12345 rather than the old format 1234.1234). ClintGoss (talk) 12:15, 12 January 2015 (UTC)