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U.S. coverage at ITN

Interesting. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:47, 9 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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I've noticed that, for the past few weeks at least, there has been a distinct lack of coverage of US-related topics on the ITN ticker compared to years past, except for those events that are ITN/R. All I can say is: keep up the good work. --WaltCip (talk) 18:18, 29 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

There's a distinct lack of coverage for the entire Western Hemisphere, as a matter of fact. –H T D 03:14, 30 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The beginning of the year is a slow period for ITN worthy events in general, and not just US related ones. I don't think there is any deliberate effort to exclude US related (or Western Hemisphere) events, which there shouldn't be for any country. We should be working to post more from other places and I think we have done better these last few weeks. I do agree that we have done a good job of posting events from other places and I hope that continues. Working against systemic bias doesn't mean it should be turned around. All potentially worthy events should be considered on their merits. 331dot (talk) 09:56, 30 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

There is no story about Europe either. So what? Kevin McE (talk) 18:40, 8 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

There are six ITN blurbs right now, and 4 are from ITNR. The other two involves a plane crash and the sale of a painting... –H T D 15:32, 9 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Itn.svick.org is down

It takes me to a 404 error page. Is it working for anyone else? Everymorning talk 19:19, 6 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

ISIL is a non-event noun but is listed as "ongoing"

The Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant is a noun. I don't see how the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant can be ongoing (as a noun), so I thought I would bring it up here. Dustin (talk) 18:29, 8 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

So are Boko Haram and War in Ukraine. The stories are ongoing. Kevin McE (talk) 18:37, 8 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

An event can be a noun, yes. I can clarify by saying the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant is not an event. Is that better? And the Main Page says "Ongoing", not "Ongoing stories". Boko Haram is an ongoing movement, the War in Ukraine is an ongoing war, but the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant is not an event. It is a non-event noun. Dustin (talk) 19:01, 8 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I think the "on-going" is entirely redundant; "in the news" already implies the subject is "in the news". May as well remove it and just post links to the articles, this way we can fit more articles in there too. Colipon+(Talk) 18:13, 9 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

"Ongoing" is for events which might have a series of incremental notable stories that might not merit posting individually, but as a group merit attention. 331dot (talk) 18:46, 9 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I think that is a good way to describe it, but I also see it as a place for topic areas which do not neatly fit into a 'groundbreaking' blurb that we are used to at ITN, but are nonetheless important; for example the recent measles outbreak, a link to "Measles" would be relevant, highly encyclopedic, and in the news. Colipon+(Talk) 20:25, 9 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The Rambling Man

Please see Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#The_Rambling_Man. Thank you. --AmaryllisGardener ^talk 22:38, 12 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The Rambling Man has repeatedly acted inappropriately at WP:ITN/C. His comments have violated WP:CIVIL and WP:NPA several times, and are rude in general. I have several examples, all of these events having occurred in the last couple of months:

which went on until today, at Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#.5BReady.5D_RD:_Bob_Simon, where TRM !voted "Oppose for the dead American ticker. Article has serious BLP issues.", a disrespectful comment calling ITN a "dead American ticker". An argument with Muboshgu and me follows. He posts more comments using the phrase "dead American ticker"[1] Of course, this just another example of his rudeness, and not a WP:CIVIL or WP:NPA violation.
Anyone that contributes to ITN knows that TRM likes to oppose noms. Looking at what's currently listed at ITN/C, his record is 10 opposes and 7 supports, mine is 3/3. He often opposes based on article quality, yet he got on to me when I opposed his nom because it was a stub.[2]
The incident that concerns me the most is this one, where Richard von Weizsäcker was nominated for RD (and was later posted), but the article was in terrible shape. Zwerg Nase improved the article and posted to ITN, alerting us about his edits. Then, TRM insulted his work with sarcasm[3], an argument with 331dot follows. TRM makes rude comments[4], then 331 replies with a good way to end an argument[5], I saw this and went to 331's tp to praise him for his comment, the argument continues there between me, 331, Zwerg, and TRM. This is the most important diff. In that diff you will see in the "Well said" section that I posted a diff of 331's comment with "*applause* *standing ovation*", and then TRM comments, insulting our nationality with "Or not. *applause* etc. No sarcasm had been deployed tonight, although perhaps being British I assume y'all aint gettin' it. *seated slow hand clap* *wait for help*". Later on in the argument, TRM says "Seems like you don't get it either [referring to me] (and if you think "well played" has negative connotation, there is little hope)...". Later on, the subject of discussion morphs into questioning of why TRM removed a comment by Sca, I will admit that my comment "And while we're here, would you like to explain why you removed Sca's comment?" sounded inappropriate, I'm not the best at wording things.
An incident I recently found that I was not involved in is this: He insults Newyorkbrad because he posted an RD for "another dead American".[6]
Another rude comment[7]

I must add that AFAIK, TRM has never apogized for any of this. The examples I've listed only go back to November 2014. I could go on and on listing his rude comments. Anyone can add to this list in a comment below. --AmaryllisGardener ^talk 22:06, 12 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Proposal

I propose that The Rambling Man be topic banned from editing Wikipedia:In the news/Candidates because of his incivility.

Support as proposer. --AmaryllisGardener ^talk 22:10, 12 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Nice, thanks for letting me know about this discussion. I think you'll find ANI is the usual location to get be blocked or banned from aspects of Wikipedia. It would no doubt serve you and the others who continually advocate substandard articles nicely to see me banished. Pity is, the fewer there are of us who care about quality, the worse the main page becomes. The Rambling Man (talk) 22:18, 12 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I will say that I searched "topic ban" before I posted this and that users have been topic banned through discussion on this page in the past. I had no intention of bringing this to the dark place filled with monsters. --AmaryllisGardener ^talk 22:21, 12 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Well you need to do that. And once again, thanks for having the courtesy not to tell me about this discussion. No less than I expected. The Rambling Man (talk) 22:23, 12 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Fine, I'll take it there. And I pinged you, I didn't think I had to do any more notifying, as this isn't ANI. --AmaryllisGardener ^talk 22:24, 12 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Mayweather vs. Pacquiao

Is there any chance of this being posted? If there's zero chance do tell it know so other people could waste time and effort on this article and not me lol. –H T D 23:39, 20 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I don't follow boxing, and I usually oppose boxing nominations, but this seems to be one of the few fights we should post. I think this would have an excellent chance, and I'd probably support. Most of the past discussions we've had about boxing usually pointed to this fight as something we would hypothetically post. Well, it's here. --Bongwarrior (talk) 05:09, 23 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I think it should be. Boxing is not represented ever at ITN, and as Bongwarrior mentioned every time it is brought up people say that if this fight happens then then it may be posted. This is a fight that has been "discussed" and "hyped about" for years so there's no doubt it will be a big news story. Andise1 (talk) 05:14, 23 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
While I fear that Mayweather vs. Pacquiao will be an example of the hype outliving the actual event, it's a lot of hype, certainly a newsworthy amount of hype. It might even smash a PPV record or two.--WaltCip (talk) 14:10, 23 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Current Event Posting Length and Style

What happened to the shortened form of reporting of current events? The main reason I open this page first thing every morning is to get a brief 1 sentence (15-25 words) overview of the top 8-10 events that are happening. If I want to know more there are the associated links and I can go into more depth. But I dont need a 110 word recapping of the Dayton 500 and other events.

Also as the country of the event can be one of the primary indicators of level of relevance to me (I follow Asia Pacific) I would also like to suggest the following format

Country : 10-12 words summary

For example Bangladesh: Death toll from the weekend ferry disaster rises to 70. (AP) Australia: Entertainer Rolf Harris is stripped of his Order of Australia honours following recent convictions in the United Kingdom for indecent assault. (ABC News Australia) Egypt: Political activist is sentenced to five years in jail for violating a rule against organising political protests without permission. (Al-Arabiyah)

Just a thought. (Hopefully these comments are in the right talk section. Do move them if I am placing them astray.)