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Upcoming ITN/R suggestions (Apr-Jun)[edit]

This post attempts to highlight potential nominations that could be considered and where else to continue looking for news items. The recurring items list is a good place to start. Below is a provisional list of upcoming ITN/R events over the next few months. Note that some events may be announced earlier or later than scheduled, like the result of an election or the culmination of a sport season/tournament. Feel free to update these articles in advance and nominate them on the candidates page when they occur.

Other resources

For those who don't take their daily dose of news from an encyclopedia, breaking news stories can also be found via news aggregators (e.g. Google News, Yahoo! News) or your preferred news outlet. Some news outlets employ paywalls after a few free articles, others are funded by advertisements - which tend not to like ad blockers, and a fair few are still free to access. Below is a small selection:

Unlike the prose in the article, the reference doesn't necessarily need to be in English. Non-English news sources include, but are not limited to: Le Monde, Der Spiegel and El País. Which ironically are Western European examples (hi systemic bias). Any reliable African, Asian or South American non-English source that confirms an event took place can also be used.

Happy hunting. Fuebaey (talk) 16:53, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

Jens Beutel[edit]

I noticed that Jens Beutel had died, couldn't update right away but a day later, nothing happened, updated more another day later, 3 supported, marked ready, but again nothing happened. We call it recent deaths, no? - I sadly had to nominate the next already, and just noticed a third who'd deserve it but has no aricle yet. - Are there secrets about posting that I don't know? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:38, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

He's posted now, but - due to what I described - close to the end. What can I do better nect time? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:16, 13 May 2019 (UTC)
No, we have few admins working, especially over the weekends. The main page is low priority, it's more about presence at ANI, making big waves at Arbcom cases etc, and less about serving the readers. There are a handful of decent admins left, but they deserve some time out from this. The Rambling Man (talk) 22:29, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

Anatol Herzfeld[edit]

I hear you. Anatol Herzfeld, no weekend now. Can you support? - Was known only 12 May, written 13, question to reference pictured art 14, done that, - and now? RexxS, here's work for you ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:01, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

I asked above what I should do better next time. The question is more urgent now that Jayron closed it. There's some unfairness in going by date of death rather than by notification, and then not processing a nomination faster. What should I do better next time? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:22, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

We just need more diligent admins. I'd be delighted to help but .... The Rambling Man (talk) 15:26, 15 May 2019 (UTC)
I don't complain that two users invested a lot of time to meet the (excessive? - at least they eat up time) expectations of ITN referencing, but that a great person was thus not exposed to the limelight. Will have to create Wächter (Anatol). Frustrated. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:16, 15 May 2019 (UTC)
Yes, it is very frustrating. I'm sorry the situation seems to be getting worse rather than better. I do my best to get to each ITN candidate, and return when I can if pinged to those I object to, but the admins are too busy. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:18, 15 May 2019 (UTC)
In the process of writing the article "aus Trotz" (in defiance?), found these images. No, we don't show such a person (and I feel that it's my fault, I was too slow), but others several days in a row. Can we change that??? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:43, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

Israel-Gaza conflict is wrong. It's a story from last year (same date).[edit]

"At least 29 people are killed in clashes at the Gaza–Israel border." is from May 14 2018. Not 2019. Suggested change: coincidentally, Eurovision's first semi-final. Alex.osheter (talk) 20:15, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

There's been renewed conflict this year eg [1]. probably purely coincidential on timing and events. --Masem (t) 20:27, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
This is from May 5, and no longer in the news since a ceasefire was reached. Alex.osheter (talk) 20:45, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
Yes, but until another news story is posted which will make this one roll off, it'll stay there. If you view the source of ITN, it clearly states the story applied as of 6 May. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:47, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
Understood, thanks. I don't usually deal with ITN, I was just on the main page, saw this and thought it meant this is today's news. Being from the area, I know this is not up-to-date and thought it was some kind of mistake :) Feel free to nominate a new ITN, it'd be greatly appreciated, if not.. I guess we'll just wait until someone else does. I learned something new today, so that's pretty cool too. Thank you. Alex.osheter (talk) 21:50, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

ITN Bot[edit]

I've asked Anomie who has said that an ITN tagger similar to the current OnThisDayTagger (handled by AnomieBOT) is doable. Some articles end up not getting tagged, like Talk:I. M. Pei, the recent election in Australia, etc. So, this sounds like a relatively simple thing that can be handed off to a bot, like ITN/C archiving already is. Thoughts? --qedk (t c) 09:48, 18 May 2019 (UTC)

Please add Support/Oppose/Views, etc. below

  • Yeah, I guess this is probably a good idea. There is something nice about getting a personal message from the admin who did the update, but it's not very reliable. I didn't get a message for my recent ITN so I cheekily sent it to myself 😉 It might also be nice to do one for POTD because photo uploaders don't currently get credited when their pics appear on the MP.  — Amakuru (talk) 09:55, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
    • I was actually thinking of a bot that tags the articles. But, from my experience, Anomie can do anything you ask (6th pillar of Wikipedia), so expanding it to credit ITN authors is not a problem. There are already certain parts of POTD, AnomieBOT I and III manages (adding and deleting pages), so adding this would be plausible. To be quite fair, AnomieBOT has a foot in every part of the Main Page already. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ --qedk (t c) 14:12, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
  • About the only issue I can think of is when an article gets posted to ITN and then pulled shortly afterward for whatever reason (misreading of consensus, lack of updates, dueling admins having a tiff, etc.) but apart from that, I don't see an issue with it.--WaltCip (talk) 15:59, 20 May 2019 (UTC)
    My guess is the botop can keep certain provisions in place for that, but removing it manually once added isn't too much of an issue either. --qedk (t c) 18:20, 20 May 2019 (UTC)