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Nomination for deletion of Template:Academic degrees of Denmark

Template:Academic degrees of Denmark has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 06:13, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

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Norwegian Code

Well done on creating the above article. One point, though: I urge you to find a reliable source to support the sentence about Norway and Denmark interpreting the same provision differently. Some further information about that would be great too. I urge this to help get the article into the Did you know? section of the main page. ClaretAsh 14:02, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. I'll look into that. Bjerrebæk (talk) 06:09, 3 February 2012 (UTC) 

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Norwegian Scientific Index

Hi, concerning your last edit there and especially your edit summary "Rv disruptive tagging. Also, note that using multiple accounts to promote your view is strictly prohibited", please note the following: As a Wikipedia editor, you are supposed to assume good faith and refrain from personal attacks. "Abusive editing" is defined here and as the last edit by another account than yours or mine was over 6 months ago, obviously does not apply: there is no tag-teaming, piggybacking, use of sleeper or IP accounts, or evidence of meatpuppetry. Nevertheless, feel free to file a report at WP:SPI. If you accusation is an attempt to make me reveal something about my real-life identity, by trying to lure me to confirm or deny anything about my identity, please read WP:OUT. Please read the policies that I linked in the foregoing carefully and consider yourself duly warned: the next time you direct such an unfounded serious accusation at me, I'll file a report at WP:ANI. As for the article on Norwegian Scientific Index and its inappropriate lists, I'll start a Requests for comment on the talk page where you can present your views (in a neutral and non-confrontational manner). Thanks. --Randykitty (talk) 15:29, 7 February 2013 (UTC)

Welcome to Wikipedia. As a brand new user who registered just recently, you show a striking familiarity with procedures here and a peculiar interest in the same shtick as another editor editing that very same article. Please read up on our policy on WP:SOCK. Let me stress this very clear: An editor is only allowed to edit (at least the same article/dispute) using one account. lIf you continue behaving disruptively and violating policy, you might find yourself blocked soon. Consider yourself warned. The edit by the former editor, and now by you, is also unfounded and disruptive use of tags. If you are really a new editor, you need to learn more about how we use tags here. Also, I couldn't care less about your "real-life identity" and have said nothing in that regard. Bjerrebæk (talk) 17:54, 7 February 2013 (UTC)

Many editors only set up an account after having edited as an IP for a long time, for example. And you don't understand WP:SOCK: it concerns simultaneous editing trying to circumvent policies (such as 3RR or "vote stacking" at AfDs) and such. That is why the fact that the article hasn't been edited for 6 months before our recent edits proves conclusively that whatever is going on, sockpuppetry is not involved. (By the way, it even is allowed for editors to operate several accounts simultaneously, as long as they use them for separate purposes. Some people have a separate account to edit, say, pornography articles that they don't want to have associated with their main account). In any case, I repeat, please feel free to file a report at WP:SPI (and see how fast you'll get a slap on your fingers). Just because you disagree with the placement of those tags does not make them "disruptive" nor did my placing them there violate any policy that I know about (but do tell me if I'm wrong). In any case, given your (rather violent) opposition, I have not placed them back and have opened an RfC and you are free to voice your opinion there. Once the bot has listed the RfC, we may get the opinions of other uninvolved editors and we'll see what they have to say. --Randykitty (talk) 18:18, 7 February 2013 (UTC)

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Siri

Please stop moving the page Siri (name) to Siri. There was consensus made to keep the software page as primary only a month ago. Please see Talk:Siri#Requested move (2013). Deadbeef 20:44, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

No, there was no consensus, but a roughly equal number of opposition and support (the latter based on plain ignorance (like a very common name being "obscure") and misinterpretation of policy). Stop moving the page around, the name is the primary topic, not the obscure software. The software is named for the name, not the other way round, and the name has been used for about 800 years, and the software was invented yesterday. Also make yourself familiar with Wikipedia:What_Wikipedia_is_not#Wikipedia_is_not_a_soapbox_or_means_of_promotion. Bjerrebæk (talk) 20:47, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

Regardless of the fact that you're trying to quote a non-fitting policy page and an essay at me, consensus can't be undone without consensus. While the !vote wasn't a landslide, there were still more people supporting making the software the primary page than making it secondary. If you want to suggest a move, you can raise it on the talk page where (weak, but binding) consensus was first established. Please see WP:CAREFUL about limits on editing WP:BOLDly.. Deadbeef 20:58, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

Nonsense, there was no consensus in the first place, so no consensus that needs to be "undone". We don't vote on Wikipedia. The only bold edit was the one that incorrectly moved it without consensus recently, and I merely reestablished the stable version that there was no consensus to change. Bjerrebæk (talk) 20:59, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

Actually, I retract what I said earlier. It wasn't weak, the !vote was 5-2 to move. You can't just upend that without discussion simply because you think it's wrong. Start a discussion on the talk page; there's no WP:DEADLINE to get it done right now exactly the way you want it. Might as well have community support to do it in a week than get in a battle to get it done now. Deadbeef 21:11, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

If you want to raise this issue again, you should do so at Talk:Siri - tagging the article as "{{NPOV}}" and "{{advert}}" does nothing to communicate your concern to other editors, as these templates are for raising issues about an article's content, not its name. --McGeddon (talk) 13:38, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

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Content removal from Jens Stoltenberg

Hi. I noticed that you have removed some content from the above article and claim it to be POV. I would like to know what made you think that, if the parts were referenced? Considering that JPost is a reliable source. If I will be you, instead of deleting I would have moved to and/or created criticism section.--Mishae (talk) 23:49, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

You have been told already by other editors that adding a large POV worded section sourced to far right extremist sources in the article on Jens Stoltenberg is unacceptable, UNDUE and POV. Bjerrebæk (talk) 17:07, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

It is not a POV, the refs are reliable sources, The Jerusalem Post, as well as FrontPage Magazine. I proposing to include criticism section, that way weather you are far right, or not the article will be balanced. As a side note, please voice your opinion here: Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard and here.--Mishae (talk) 19:03, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

No, your proposed edits have been rejected by multiple editors because they are POV and because the sources are extreme/fringe. I caution you against inserting material violating the BLP policy into that biography. You have to obtain consensus on the talk page before inserting controversial material. Bjerrebæk (talk) 19:32, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

Are you an admin? I don't see it on your userpage. Either way, I personally don't care if he was anti-semi or not, but RS is RS, you can't go against it. FrontPage Magazine is a notable RS, JPost and Arutz Sheva are used widely on articles related to Israeli-Palestinian conflicts. So, as far as "numerous editors" go, I saw only two: You and @Huldra:.--Mishae (talk) 19:44, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

Your edits have been removed by three editors if not more. Frontpage Magazine is an extremist publication affiliated with Jihad Watch, and not a reliable source.[1] The tone of your contribution has nothing to do in an encyclopedia. I reiterate: You must obtain consensus on the talk page of the article before inserting controversial material like this. Bjerrebæk (talk) 19:47, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

O.K. Let's wait on consensus to agree on something, but I tend to believe that your tone aren't friendly either, and is in violation AGF. Telling me that my contribution has nothing to do with encyclopedia is quite rude. I don't tell you that your contribution is vandalism, do I? Now, I checked WikiPage on FrontPage Magazine, and it doesn't say anywhere that its an extremist magazine, just because both comes from David Horowitz Freedom Center doesn't mean that Wikipedia should delete them, or remove sources to them. By the way, you haven't commented on Arutz Sheva, what's wrong with that ref?--Mishae (talk) 20:11, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

The problem with the proposed addition, as explained by other users, is that its tone is non-neutral and that the material is given undue weight in Jens Stoltenberg's biography. There has been some criticism from a few hard right individuals in Israel. The Jewish community in Norway, as well as the Israeli government, have rejected these allegations, and it has been pointed out that it was based on information from two individuals who were excluded from the Norwegian Jewish community ten years ago for their links with a racist group (as pointed out by Anne Sender, former head of the Jewish community of Oslo [2]). Bjerrebæk (talk) 20:23, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

Well then Fox News is not an RS either, and should be excluded from multiple republican-related articles because as you call it its far right too. Another thing, do not speak of me as "pro-Russian" like you did here: [3] even if it does say on my user page. I'm as pro-Russian as well as pro-Ukrainian, which means that I don't choose between Eastern and Western powers. I also don't like majority of world leaders, but I edit articles neutrally. As far as my edit with Jens Stoltenberg goes, I follow by not what I like, but what is RS. Maybe I didn't knew completely what it is. According to our policy on reliable sources, it said that "newspapers, magazines, books, news channels", are considered to be RS. If it would have been a blog, that will be a different story, but even there its fishy. For example, using a personal blog is a no-no in Wikipedia, but using a blog from say, New York Times, is still considered to be an RS. Now, because The Jerusalem Post, Arutz Sheva, and FrontPage Magazine are newspapers, magazines and media, they fit perfectly well with being RS. I personally don't understand the issue here. If they are that bad, extremist and such, why they weren't blacklisted in the first place? Perhaps, because they are still considered to be RS under Wikipedia policy they were left alone. As far as your above source goes, it is not an RS, and here is why; First, you quote Anne Sender who as you said is a representative of Jewish community in Oslo. We don't consider her to be an RS because she is an individual, have no notability to be included into Wikipedia, and her views are marginal comparing to JPost which is used on other Wikipedia articles as well.--Mishae (talk) 22:28, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

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RUC edit requests

Hi Bjerrebæk

I've suggested some changes to the article about Roskilde University and since you have made many changes on university topics, I'd like to ask you, if you have some time to look at my edit request about RU. Hope its possible. --Simon (RUC) (talk) 10:07, 11 December 2014 (UTC)

Rudolf Lipschitz

Hey, Flash! Get better glasses before You start accusing people of stuff. Thank You. Also, are You absolutely sure about a decade of disruptive edits? I didn't think so. Sincerely, Space Cadet (talk) 16:39, 2 April 2015 (UTC)