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November 2014

Please do not add commentary or your own personal analysis to Wikipedia articles, as you did to Amanda Marcotte. Doing so violates Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy and breaches the formal tone expected in an encyclopedia. Thank you. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 01:38, 28 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Agree, Kate Wishing seems to have a habit of removing credible links, and only including a select number of links to the ONE paper she may have read on the subject - even if she doesn't actually read the whole thing. She has ruined a very article on RCVS by the same method of advancing either self-promotion, or someone with whom she has a connection. And she has the hypocritical audacity to claim that others self-promote. She's not published on any of the subjects she edits, but tries to make out she's a leading authority on them.

This is nonsense. Here is the relevant revert, which contains absolutely no commentary of my own or original research and only quotes a reliable source. KateWishing (talk) 01:43, 28 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

why your deletions of citations?

The references added are not "self-promoting." These meet the standard for being appropriate.

Dyadic Developmental Psychotherapy',Hughes, D., Attachment-Focused Family Therapy, NY:Norton, 2009Becker-Weidman, A., (2010), Dyadic Developmental Psychotherapy: Essential methods and practices, Jason Aronson Becker-Weidman, A., (2011), The Dyadic Developmental Psychotherapy Casebook,Lanham, MD: Jason Aronson

These are books published by reliable and well-known publishers and their inclusion supports and adds to the article and the statement these references were tied to. Please do not delete again without first discussing it on the talk page. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by NJMSWPHD (talk • contribs)

Agree, Kate Wishing seems to have a habit of removing credible links, and only including a select number of links to the one paper she may have read on the subject. She has ruined a very article on RCVS by the same method of advancing either self-promotion, or someone with whom she has a connection. And she has the hypocritical audacity to claim that others self-promote. Laughable. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.28.73.170 (talk) 10:47, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

potential violation of wikipedia revert policy

Your revision/undoing of my edit to the Attachment Therapy so quickly without any discussion on the talk page is not consistent with policy and practice. NJMSWPHD (talk) 17:28, 1 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You've done it again, without explaining your revision and without discussing in on the talk page. This is not consistent with Wikipedia practice at all. NJMSWPHD (talk) 01:08, 3 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

the removal of reliable sources would seem to be a violation of wikipedia policy and qualify as valdalism NJMSWPHD (talk) 01:20, 4 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I've added back the material and hope that if there is a dispute we can discuss it here civilly on the talk page rather than you're reveting it without discussion, which is a violation of wikipedia policy and practice. NJMSWPHD (talk) 00:56, 6 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It would seem that since you continue to disregard discussion on the talk page and ignore that the material added are relevant and reliable sources that you are violating neutral point of view policy by advocating a POV. However if I am wrong, please comment. NJMSWPHD (talk) 00:58, 6 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You're gonna need another sock. KateWishing (talk) 01:00, 6 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Your additions, which I corrected, are obvious violations of WP:RS and WP:ASSERT. It's impressive that you've been on Wikipedia for almost ten years and still haven't learned the most basic policies. I will seek a third opinion. KateWishing (talk) 01:40, 21 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome to Wikipedia. Everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia. However, talk pages are meant to be a record of a discussion; deleting or editing legitimate comments is considered bad practice, even if you meant well. Even making spelling and grammatical corrections in others' comments is generally frowned upon, as it tends to irritate the users whose comments you are correcting. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. Yopie (talk) 22:36, 21 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yopie is here complaining that I fixed his formatting error, which is actually encouraged by WP:TPO. KateWishing (talk) 22:52, 21 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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James Ossuary

The source clearly states (if you've read the source) that the patina is authentic which doesn't prove either way it should be added that Jesus(the real one) does not exist all it saying is that the inscription is authentic irrespective of belief READ the paper.Also it should be added (not that you would of known )other such artifact have been discovered they themselves have been confirmed as authentic using with the same method used(such as the Caiaphas Ossuary for example) by the Israel Antiquities Authority.If you can come up with a better method (such as MAGIC for example) then I would be prepared to listen my suggestion is that you go away and look for something else to criticize and stop wasting serious thinkers time Richardlord50 (talk)

Yes, I've read the source. It's open access and can be found here. It clearly states that the findings "strengthen the contention that the ossuary and its engravings are authentic," consistent with my revision, not yours. It does not "confirm" the authenticity any more than the previous studies "disproved" it. Apart from that inaccuracy, your version uses more words to say less. My version explains exactly why the study supports (not confirms) authenticity. You've jumbled some words together in something vaguely resembling an English sentence and left the reader with the impression that the scientists used their science tools to magically confirm authenticity. The presence of microfossils and "biological indicators" alone does not support authenticity. Other studies cited the microfossils to argue against authenticity. The key point of the study is that the microfossils seemed naturally deposited. KateWishing (talk) 21:02, 15

March 2015 (UTC)

What the actually says which seems obviously confusing you is this "We would like to emphasize that in Israel 80% - 90% of the archaeological artifacts are from unprovenanced origins and should definitely not to be overlooked. Archaeometric investigations should be carried out in order to authenticate important artifacts. This study deals with such an archaeometric analysis that is accompanied by a set of images supporting our contention that the inscription of the James Ossuary is authentic." Like I have said before (and it is up to the reader to decide for his or herself) the source does not say "yes Jesus does exist" all it is saying is the inscription is authentic which doesn't say anything one way or another.The previous analysis of the Ossuary is primarily based on: "This is to be good to be true theory".Which is meaningless in it self which doesn't aid scientific inquiry as opposed to adhoc method so often used. If biological indicators doesn't support authenticity,what does support it bad breath and heavy breathing.Science didn't magically confirm the authenticity of the Ossuary all science has done is use a BETTER method that can eliminate doubt: "Other studies cited the microfossils to argue against authenticity".Which is a bit rich when you yourself is using the very same thing to prove your argument (I notice you don't cite these other studies).Lets be reasonable the both of us.Richardlord50 (talk)

I don't care about Jesus or even whether the inscription is authentic. My concern is that your revision misrepresents the source. A "contention" is not "confirmation." One of the previous studies I mentioned was based on oxygen isotope analysis, not speculation:

Ayalon, A., Bar-Matthews, M., & Goren, Y. (2004). Authenticity examination of the inscription on the ossuary attributed to James, brother of Jesus. Journal of Archaeological Science, 31(8), 1185-1189.

It concluded that the inscription was probably a forgery, noting that "the fact that only the letters patina from the James Ossuary contain microfossils of marine origin, suggests that it was artificially deposited." Now, should we cite that study and say that it "confirms the forgery?" Obviously not.

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Revision on Polyamory

It was agreed at the end of the discussions that the material was fitting, as sources using the example study were put in the section. Be sure to read all of a discussion before simply saying "per talk". 24.252.141.175 (talk) 20:28, 31 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Anyone who agreed to that was wrong, because the deleted material is blatant WP:SYNTH. KateWishing (talk) 21:11, 31 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

It is not WP:SYNTH to report what a source says. The source specifically discussed polyamory and cites that study. The opposition on the Talk Page agreed. You don't seem to have read the entire discussion that resulted in the consensus. 24.252.141.175 (talk) 08:42, 3 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

To clarify, WP: SYNTH says "If one reliable source says A, and another reliable source says B, do not join A and B together to imply a conclusion C that is not mentioned by either of the sources." However the conclusion is explicitly quoted from the paper, and its conclusion is what Finn, 2012 references. So this is something referred to explicitly by two reliable sources. Did you read them before deleting the material? I'll assume good faith but it seems like you are erasing sources you have not read based off of a portion of a discussion you did not finish reading. 24.252.141.175 (talk) 08:48, 3 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I've read both papers in full, and you are not reporting what either source says. You are synthesizing them to make an original conclusion about polyamory, when neither source says anything about polyamory (which is consensual non-exclusivity, not non-exclusivity in general). I have explained this at Talk:Polyamory#Source_Reliability. My talk page is not the appropriate venue. KateWishing (talk) 08:52, 3 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Why would someone who read both in full be claiming the Finn study didn't talk about objections to polyamory? 24.252.141.175 (talk) 09:03, 3 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Because I know the meaning of "polyamory". KateWishing (talk) 09:28, 3 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Remedial measures

Thanks for tracking down and fixing so many of those Packersfanam edits. When you start to dig there are a ton of them and I was beginning to despair of the task of fixing them when I saw that you'd been to a lot of them already. Really odd, how he's gone so bad so quickly. It'd be nice if he can be rehabilitated short of an indef block but I'm skeptical. I guess we'll see! JohnInDC (talk) 02:30, 16 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Not discussing changes on talk PAge

Why won't you discuss your revisions and changes on the talk page first so we can do consensus together? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.56.40.55 (talk) 23:34, 19 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The edit I reverted was not made in good faith. KateWishing (talk) 12:56, 21 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Ageplay

The definition of ageplay currently on the site is totally wrong, the indie I posted is 100% accurate if you have a problem with the truth please email me at daddy_tallica@ yahoo.come — Preceding unsigned comment added by Daddy tallica (talk • contribs) 12:45, 21 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia exists to summarize reliable sources, not right great wrongs. You can't add your own personal commentary to articles. KateWishing (talk) 12:56, 21 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Diabetic nephropathy

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Thank you, Ozzie. I hope that we won't need to individually discuss each and every reference. The problem is not limited to one or two citations — your entire approach to referencing needs to change. For example, you added this source for the claim that "Normal eGFR is above 90 mm/min/1.73 m²." The reference says nothing of the sort. Do you see the problem? You should only add a source when you are absolutely certain that it says exactly what our article states. If you aren't certain, it's better to leave the information uncited. In many cases, it's not even possible to find a good source for pre-existing information. Someone may have taken it from a paywalled journal or even made it up. That's why I suggested that you focus on adding new information rather than trying to overhaul whole articles. Many medical articles are still missing basic facts about epidemiology, history and so on. KateWishing (talk) 21:19, 1 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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		The Medicine Barnstar
		KateWishing for your guidance and knowledge in creating the Diabetic nephropathy article I am proud to have collaborated with youOzzie10aaaa (talk) 22:57, 2 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Ozzie. I enjoyed working with you. KateWishing (talk) 23:40, 2 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Harry Potter influences and analogues

Should I remove Nadrali's contentious line? He hasn't modified it according to our discussion. Serendi ^podous 13:26, 24 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I just edited it to my own suggestion. KateWishing (talk) 14:02, 24 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

CHARTRES

Can you tell me why you revert my edit; thank youHuntermiam (talk) 15:47, 14 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Your edit deleted a random portion of the text and made the sentence nonsense. Apart from that, you are obviously a sockpuppet of Whiteflagfl [1][2] (and I noticed your edit via Flyer22's talk page, where it's further suggested that you're a sock of a user I'm not familiar with). KateWishing (talk) 15:59, 14 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

So you believe any information put without any proof, I simply removed false information that the city was in the hand of the same group between1568-1591 plus no reference. Huntermiam (talk) 16:23, 14 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Rollback question

Hi KateWishing, I saw you appear in my watchlist and I noticed that you often revert vandalism/spam. Would rollback rights and reviewer rights be of use to you? If so, I'd be happy to grant them to you. Please let me know what you think. Best. Acalamari 19:30, 1 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

That would be helpful, Acalamari. Thank you. KateWishing (talk) 21:36, 1 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Hope you find both tools useful. :) Best. Acalamari 21:41, 1 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Talk page

Last I checked, I'm allowed to edit my talk page the way I want it to be. If you want to delete this comment after you read it, go ahead, it's *your* talk page. I have been trying to make sure that updates I make are without controversy. So far the vast majority seem to have been met with approval, if one every great once in a while upsets somebody, that doesn't seem to be grounds for some big accusation. Thanks. Packerfansam (talk) 19:13, 28 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

May seem strange, but I wanted to apologize if I was unjustly short-tempered. I have every intention of trying to do things the right way, but in my defense, how I edit my talk page, whether I removed things that stress me out or could cause other problems, is my decision (WP:Talk page guidelines). Packerfansam (talk) 20:27, 28 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Packerfansam, you're free to remove messages from your talk page, but communication is required. My complaint was that you did not acknowledge the problem in any way. It's okay to make mistakes when editing, but not to keep making the same "mistake" over and over again after it's been pointed out to you. You even returned to one article and repeatedly removed the same content three times over months (apparently because witches and rock music are sinful).[3][4][5] That's not good faith. KateWishing (talk) 23:11, 28 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Firstly, I like good rock music. We may have disagreements over certain things for different reasons, but I'll freely say I made the edits to Beloit on purpose. You can write somebody won a Tony, there doesn't need to be list of different plays and things they worked on. You can write that somebody is a singer, there doesn't need to be a list of the different genres their songs are considered. I did *not* remove individuals from the list, but I did make their credentials more compact. Thanks. Packerfansam (talk) 04:27, 29 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

potential violation of wikipedia revert policy

You redirected the Face Lift Dentistry without any discussion, why you think you have the right to do this? You are now invited to join a dispute discussion of the conflict through Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard/request, hope that now you are willing to discuss and please provide solid evidence of your behaviours. Thank you.Indepentten (talk) 15:40, 7 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Agree, Kate Wishing seems to have a habit of removing credible links, and only including a select number of links to the one paper she may have read on the subject. She has ruined a very article on RCVS by the same method of advancing either self-promotion, or someone with whom she has a connection. And she has the hypocritical audacity to claim that others self-promote. She's quite happy to vandalize quite well-written articles and direct the majority of links to one paper that she might read and then, only when the original author complains, does she pitifully back down with a request to talk. Personally I think she deliberately does this to provoke a reaction,. and the number of similar complaints forma wide number of people across a wide number of subjects shows clearly where the common problem lies. She is the common denominator is acting as some sort of article owner, particularly on subjects where she is not published.

Indepentten is referring to this edit, which was not a revert or violation of any policy. It was discussed here. KateWishing (talk) 15:46, 7 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you KateWishing, and I joint in the discussion. But before you did a major edit, you don't think you should at least notice me or leave a reason and discuss it with me? Based on other editors, this is not the first time you did this.Indepentten (talk) 16:06, 7 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Thank you

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Thank you

For your comments at my talk page with regard to tagging. I am always open to refinement of the tag that I leave. Often, what appears to be duplication of tags, is a matter of their be numerous issues in various parts of articles, where, on address of a subset of the issues, one of the set of the tags can be removed. I understand it is unsightly, but the issues are real, and it is unfair to the students who are such a large contingent of our readers to believe articles are sound, when in fact they re not. With regard to unilateral versus consensus, I believe I am both in my rights as an editor, and on sound footing with regard to WP policy, to tag as extensively as I do, and will defend it as necessary.

Again, as I said, I am open to tag revision, but not to pretending articles (e.g., unsourced articles) are anything other than the plagiarised or WP:OR morasses that so may of them are. FInally, if you have access to routes to improve tag design, I will gladly put effort there. The fact that there is no plagiarism tag, and the fact that so many tags are not quite what is needed in particular cases, means that there will be overtagging, or mistagging, to make complete communication of issues clear to readers and fellow editors. See also User_talk:Liz#Thank_you. Cheers, Le Prof Leprof 7272 (talk) 05:41, 7 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

With resect to a couple of specifics that you mention in your tagging critique—and thank you for engaging, instead of the standard revert-without-discussion approach:

First, while we know that the poem appearing is by Dora Maar, we do not know from what published work it was taken. It may indeed be DM's poetry, and may indeed be fully accurate in its transcription, but until a published source is provided that tells us where the poem was actually drawn, it has to be considered suspect. (Per WP policy, quoted material must be sourced, and per standard academic definitions, unsourced quoted material—including poetic works—is plagiarism.) I could have put ^{[This quote needs a citation]} or ^{[citation needed]}, but ^{[attribution needed]} seemed best at the time.
Second, I am generally willing to check sources, and make sure that the placement of inline citations is accurate (see next point). I am generally unwilling to do post hoc sourcing of large blocks of unsourced material, both because it encourages sloppy initial scholarship (much the same as with parents, who must eventual stop cleaning their children's rooms, I stopped cleaning up after the myriads of others that place their own textual creations into the encyclopedia); moreover, fixing clearly miscreant text makes me complicit in the plagiarism or WP:OR that often is accurate diagnosis of a large tract of in-place unsourced material.
Third, and perhaps most subtly, and seemingly ridiculous: placing inline tags—making an article look a mess—is often the only, and best first step toward resolving plagiarism and misattribution issues. For instance, vis-a-vis the L. Shankar mess, the text material was a mix of plagiarised material, editor WP:OR, and the former types of material into which good faith citations had been placed as an attempted corrective.

The result of that good faith post hoc citation addition was most often a resulting revision where the citations that appeared were inaccurate with regard to the text. (The inline citations added did not support all of the text to which they were attached—the facts appearing in the sentence were not in the citation.) Moreover, when a systematic plagiarism or lessor sourcing matter is discerned, the lack of inline tags makes unclear the progress toward dealing with the issue, while giving the errant impression that sparse citations that do appear—for instance, a single tag, at the end of a substantial paragraph—cover more material than they actually do. As an example, see Talk:L._Shankar#Example_of_deep_sourcing_issues_of_article. Before hitting the roof over the large number of inline tags in this article, read that talk section and the next one, and realize that the better part of the three main non-list sections were plagiarised (material now appearing in short and long quotes, with sources), as were the vast majority of the lists of collaborators (in Career) and Discography (separate section). Likely more plagiarism will be found at that article, and until the whole of the article is reviewed, the inlines are our only guide to what is checked and valid, and what is not.

Hence, the first step toward an accurately sourced revision of a very bad article is sometimes to place thorough inline tags that subsequent workers can easily remove as they progress through their fact checking and source additions.

All on this for now, from me, but in summary, the Dora Maar tag was sound (if strange to your ears), though perhaps not the ideal one to choose, and the articles that are thoroughly inline tagged—the most egregious cases of content creation that is either sloppy (best interpretation) or dishonest (how at university we would eventually assess the matter)—often simply need to be so, at least for a time. Cheers, Le Prof 73.210.154.39 (talk) 06:33, 7 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

user:Thedawgbelongmem

Instead of revert war, please try to explain what was wrong in user's edits and invite for discussion. - üser:Altenmann >t 06:45, 13 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Also, please keep in mind that unless it is a clear-cut stupid WP:VANDALism, it is good to provide a decent edit summary. In case of dispute it will work in your support. - üser:Altenmann >t 06:53, 13 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I normally provide edit summaries when reverting good-faith edits, but I mistook Thedawgbelongmem for a sneaky vandal because of edits like this (fake date with fake edit summary) and this (incorrect period with fake edit summary). KateWishing (talk) 14:06, 13 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I am not saying he is not. - üser:Altenmann >t 14:42, 13 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Call-Fleming Sydrome - RCVS page ... You're not an authority on this subject, so please don't act like you are.

I'm surprised that you've removed my addition to the RCVS write up, considering that you don't actually know the symptoms I, or other patients, have been through and are being researched by University College London and the UK's other leading authorities on this disease. That research is being undertaken as a longer-term project, so is not yet fully published. But, the text addition is accepted by CCUs. If you bothered to read your own added source papers, or the ones you've previously removed, you would clearly see that encephalitis is noted as a symptom in a few reported cases, including mine. Having looked through your edits to this article, it's clear that you are making yourself out to be some sort of authority of the matter, which you're not... I've researched who you are. You're neither published in the subject and have simply splattered over previous authoritative and quoted text that has been submitted by others. Sadly, this is trait that less-frequent users of Wikipedia see all too often, when someone of Wiki-self-importance acts in a way to, effectively, take over ownership of an article, and reject any and all edits - even though that defeats the whole ethos and point of Wikipedia - and simply reverts every reasonable or informed edit without exception. I wouldn't be surprised to see the three reverts rule kicking in very soon...I won't hold my breath. You have already committed one autocratic revert...you only have two left before you are reported.

I have not done you the discourtesy of removing any of your text; I have simply added additional info based on my own medical case history, of which I am not, at this stage, prepared to put my own personal medical files on Wikipedia...I'm sure that you will understand the reasons why not. Therefore, kindly afford others the same courtesy, and desist from blanket removals that are uncontroversial, simply because they might not fit in with your personal choice of sources. It is noted that you have splattered over the previous sources to the publications of Drs Call and Fleming in favour of another published source. Perhaps you could explain why you have denied the discoverers of this syndrome the common courtesy of their original papers being left as links. Looking through your edits, you have removed vast tracts of valued and respected source links, and deleted blocks of text that gave very good commentary on the illness.

In all, this was a page that was a good source of info for Call-Fleming Syndrome patients like me, steam-rollered by someone who clearly has another agenda that clearly demonstrates some personal an non-impartial influence - another breach of Wikimrules. And before you kick off, I will be quite happy to show the Wiki senior editors that you have broken Wiki protocol, as evidenced by your edits, by altering the entire article to be skewed to personal interest sources. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.21.250.21 (talk) 23:14, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I reverted your edit because it was unsourced. Wikipedia's policies do not allow original research (you stated "The source research is currently being conducted on me and several other patients.") You're welcome to alert WikiProject Medicine to the dispute. If you revert again, I'll do it myself. By the way, the original paper of Call and Fleming is reference #4 in "my" version. I only added a secondary source to support it in accordance with our WP:MEDRS guideline. KateWishing (talk) 23:36, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I've added the ref. Happy now?! (Probably not!) You sound like a right one. I've read some arrogant, dismissive responses in my time, but threatening users with "revert again, I'll do it myself"!!! Wow, what an attitude. You know Jack on this subject, as evidenced by your childish defence of your actions, in trying to trump someone who talks to the leaders in this illness on a weekly basis. Good day, little Miss Pompous. And your previous suppression of good reference info will, yes, be reported. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.21.250.21 (talk) 23:47, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

You added a book of case studies after previously claiming that the source research was unpublished. I just downloaded the book, and unsurprisingly the page numbers you cited do not even mention RCVS -- they're about infective endocarditis. So no, I am not satisfied with your fake reference. KateWishing (talk) 23:59, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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 You are now invited to join a dispute discussion of the conflict through Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard/request, hope that now you are willing to discuss and please provide solid evidence of your behaviours.
 Thank you.[[User:Indepentten|Indepentten]] ([[User talk:Indepentten|talk]]) 15:40, 7 October 2015 (UTC)
+:: Agree, Kate Wishing seems to have a habit of removing credible links, and only including a select number of links to the one paper she may have read on the subject. She has ruined a very article on RCVS by the same method of advancing either self-promotion, or someone with whom she has a connection. And she has the hypocritical audacity to claim that others self-promote. She's quite happy to vandalize quite well-written articles and direct the majority of links to one paper that she might read and then, only when the original author complains, does she pitifully back down with a request to talk. Personally I think she deliberately does this to provoke a reaction,. and the number of similar complaints forma wide number of people across a wide number of subjects shows clearly where the common problem lies. She is the common denominator is acting as some sort of article owner, particularly on subjects where she is not published.
 :[[User:Indepentten|Indepentten]] is referring to [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Face_lift_dentistry&diff=683499252&oldid=683413326 this edit], which was not a revert or violation of any policy. It was discussed [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Medicine&oldid=684560695#Face_lift_dentistry here]. [[User:KateWishing|KateWishing]] ([[User talk:KateWishing#top|talk]]) 15:46, 7 October 2015 (UTC)
 Thank you KateWishing, and I joint in the discussion.