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The wording could be tweaked. Not sure where it would be inserted. Thoughts? [[User:Aymatth2|Aymatth2]] ([[User talk:Aymatth2|talk]]) 00:49, 4 December 2015 (UTC) |
The wording could be tweaked. Not sure where it would be inserted. Thoughts? [[User:Aymatth2|Aymatth2]] ([[User talk:Aymatth2|talk]]) 00:49, 4 December 2015 (UTC) |
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== Does BLP apply to ''fictional characters'' ? == |
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Normally I would never even dream of asking this, but another editor deleted something on an article devoted to a fictional character saying that it violated BLP. This blew my mind, but I thought I'd double check to make sure there wasn't some obscure Wikipedia policy that implies this somewhere. Does it? __[[Special:Contributions/209.179.0.121|209.179.0.121]] ([[User talk:209.179.0.121|talk]]) 21:22, 4 December 2015 (UTC) |
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Quint Studer
Hi there. I'm looking for editors who would be interested to help with an article for a businessperson, Quint Studer, that needs some attention. Specifically, how best to cover the details of their career without the article seeming too much like a CV. Based on some feedback, I have offered a revised draft for the article's coverage of his career, investments and involvement with a local baseball team. However, the editors who had originally given feedback most recently regarding the concerns of tone and content and added a tag to the page have not returned (one of them was banned for sockpuppeting, which would explain why they have not been able to come back). Would anyone here be willing to take another look? I will not edit the article myself, because I wrote the drafts as a paid consultant to The Studer Group, Studer's company. Thanks, 16912 Rhiannon (Talk · COI) 22:17, 13 November 2015 (UTC)
Images of skulls on talk pages about recent fatal events
{{WikiProject Death}} features two different images of human skulls, one a photograph. Is it acceptable for such images to be posted on the talk pages of articles on recent massacres such as the Paris shootings, fatal aircraft cashes or other violent deaths? Please discuss, at Template talk:WikiProject Death#Images. [Posted here because BLP covers the recently-deceased; and their relatives.] Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:00, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
- How utterly crass. Is there a quick link to all pages that have been tagged by this? Only in death does duty end (talk) 16:38, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
- Try looking for a category made for the wiki project, or do a hyphen search ("{{WikiProject Death}}") which should bring up a list of pages with the template code used on them. Cheers, Drcrazy102 (talk) 22:17, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
- I made a couple of related points here, and would also like to see some examples where there is a problem. If wanting a list of all such pages, use Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:WikiProject Death; the transclusion count tool reports there are 15,609 occurrences. Johnuniq (talk) 07:03, 26 November 2015 (UTC)
The salary of a public figure
The job held by the current governor general of Canada, prior to his appointment by the queen, was as the president of a university in the Canadian province of Ontario. The province has made the salary of most high-grossing "civil servant", which is what this is as the school is funded primarily with public funds, public. At least two reliable sources have published and commented on the salaries: http://www.macleans.ca/education/uniandcollege/how-much-does-your-universitys-president-make/ http://toronto.ctvnews.ca/gg-johnston-earned-more-than-1m-in-2010-at-waterloo-1.625946, with the latter directly related to the subject. It was removed. It was restored. It was removed again. A discussion was opened Talk:David Johnston#In response to "trivia" or "smear". It's claimed that it's a violation of BLP. I don't think it is. Comment here or in the talk page. Walter Görlitz (talk) 05:05, 28 November 2015 (UTC)
Are "African American" categories supported by sources and policy?
Opinions are needed on the following matter: Talk:Mariah Carey#RfC: Are "African American" categories supported by sources and policy?. A WP:Permalink for it is here. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 22:49, 28 November 2015 (UTC)
How to classify condemned famous people as criminals witouth being tagged for "possible vandalism"
Tagged "possible BLP issue or vandalism" for adding a well sourced criminal sentence of Domingo Cavallo for embezzlement. Sources: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/02/world/americas/carlos-menem-ex-president-of-argentina-is-sentenced-in-embezzlement.html
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- Hi IP Editor, I would encourage you to not be overly worried about the edit being tagged. It doesn't mean anything more than another editor is likely to have a look at the edit. It's just a little bit of a protection against the inclusion of poorly sourced information about living persons. If the information is well-sourced, there should be no reason for the edit to be reverted or undone. Hope this helps, please feel free to ask any follow up questions.
Age of lead images
I was wondering if there is any recommendation of what lead image should be used in bio articles (as in old ones or newer ones if available). There is no consistency in the age of images used. Some have old images and some have modern ones. For example William Shatner has an old image for long ago as one of his characters... but...Leonard Nimoy is more contemporary out of character. For dead people should we use the most contemporary image or one from there famous days eg. Elizabeth Taylor. The fact Barbra Streisand is so famous and somewhat still working should we have an image so old...should it be more like Betty White? What about famous child actors like Jerry Mathers or Macaulay Culkin. What is best for our readers and should we make any recommendations one way or the other here....I am aware that during GA and FA reviews more recent photos are preferred...but we dont give and guidance on this here....should we ..what do people think?. -- Moxy (talk) 20:14, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
- The current picture at William Shatner would be appropriate to an article about Captain Kirk, a fictional character. It's not appropriate to an article about an actual, living, real person. The point of the picture is to identify the subject and show what he actually looks like. So, yes, we should be using up-to-date photos. FreeKnowledgeCreator (talk) 20:57, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
Known mainly by their works
Can a BLP can be based only on sources that discuss the subject's works but do not say much about their personal life? Little may be known about an individual such as Satoshi Nakamoto, but their works may be notable. We could name an article "Works of Fred Smith", but this seems clumsy if there is no article on "Fred Smith". On the other hand, if a person conceals most detail of their private identity, perhaps Wikipedia should not create an article on them even if their works are notable. Should we add a statement that says one of
- A: Works are enough: If a person is notable for their works, an article is appropriate even if the sources give few details about their private life.
- B: Personal details needed: An article on a living person must have sources that provide significant information about the person other than their works.
The wording could be tweaked. Not sure where it would be inserted. Thoughts? Aymatth2 (talk) 00:49, 4 December 2015 (UTC)
Does BLP apply to fictional characters ?
Normally I would never even dream of asking this, but another editor deleted something on an article devoted to a fictional character saying that it violated BLP. This blew my mind, but I thought I'd double check to make sure there wasn't some obscure Wikipedia policy that implies this somewhere. Does it? __209.179.0.121 (talk) 21:22, 4 December 2015 (UTC)