Talk:Cherry Hill, New Jersey

Credit for name origin

I moved the following from the article to the talk page:

My sources for this were interviews during a New Jersey Historical Commission grant I had for Cherry Hill history, and also copies of then-contemporary Cherry Hill News issues. The News was a weekly paper at the time that, as is apparent now, changed its name from Delaware Township News to Cherry Hill News. The editor, Richard Smith, was one of my interviews for the history project--Robert Strauss

Thunderbunny 04:35, 11 July 2005 (UTC)

The Movie Cherry hill high

It's an old teen movie that came out in 1977 Cherry Hill High was that made in Cherry hill?

If you mean this movie, then no, it was not made in Cherry Hill. The "Cherry" in the movie title refers to the premise that all the girls begin the movie as virgins.

Early name(s) for Cherry Hill

In the second paragraph, it describes Delaware Township and Waterford Township as early names for Cherry Hill. I spent most of my childhood growing up in Cherry Valley across the street from Colestown Cemetary. Some of the graves are very early; in fact, prior to the either of the above-referenced names. Was the area originally called Colestown? Hokeman 23:45, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

Colestown was one of many smaller towns that were subsumed into Delaware Township, like Ellisburg. According to the New Jersey Historical Society, Colestown is now part of Cherry Hill. Rpresser 21:27, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Before Delaware Township, the are was part of Waterford and also part of Gloucester County before it was split to form Camden County.

Article structure/organization

As per articles such as Cupertino, California, we can add sections for

• Geography
  • Neighborhoods
• Layout
• Economy

And break up Demographics into

• General
• Statistical

I think this would provide a good template for article expansion. --ishu 11:49, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Also we should build an infobox. Naperville, Illinois is another example we can use. --ishu 18:21, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Infobox

Cherry Hill Township
Location of Cherry Hill Township in Camden County
Country	United States
State	New Jersey
County	Camden
Founded	1844 (as Delaware Township)
Government
• Mayor	Bernard A. Platt
Area
• Total	24.4 sq mi (63.1 km2)
• Land	24.2 sq mi (62.8 km2)
Elevation	49 ft (15 m)
Population  (2000)
• Total	69,965
Time zone	UTC-5 (EST)
• Summer (DST)	UTC-4 (EDT)
Website	http://www.cherryhill-nj.com

I'm drafting one on this page.

• Elevation and latitude/longitude here.

--ishu 01:35, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Noted residents and links

The noted residents section has a great deal of links, for example, why not change these:

• Brian Baldinger, former National Football League player and television sportscaster.
• Lawrence Bender, Academy Award-winning film and television producer whose credits include Reservoir Dogs, Pulp Fiction and Good Will Hunting. Attended Cherry Hill High School East.
• Mike Bibby, National Basketball Association basketball player who now plays for the Sacramento Kings

into these:

• Brian Baldinger, former professional football player and television sportscaster.
• Lawrence Bender, Academy Award-winning film and television producer whose credits include Reservoir Dogs, Pulp Fiction and Good Will Hunting. Attended Cherry Hill High School East.
• Mike Bibby, professional basketball player who now plays for the Sacramento Kings was born in Cherry Hill.

I wanted to add that Mike Bibby was born in Cherry Hill, but noticed how cluttered the links make this sentence. We don't need to link every fact of a person's life, since people who want more detail can just read the person's article. At the very least, we don't have to link to television for heaven's sake!

As a side note, shouldn't we change the header to read Notable residents...? --ishu 19:44, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Why was the entire "Notable Residents" section removed on 2007-02-07T19:35:14 72.82.232.47 ?? Henryhank 22:32, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Good catch! It appears to have been blanked by a vandal, but nobody noticed until now. I have restored it. Thanks, --MCB 22:49, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Major Coxson murder

Does anyone have printed info (besides residents' memories) of the Major Coxson murders in Muhammed Ali's house on Barbara Drive on June 8, 1973? To refresh the memory cells, it was in April 1973 when he and his family were murdered, execution style, with bullets through the eyes. See Allah behind bars, Mike Marley's FightNightNews.com, and Studies of Organized Crime, Volume 2 Chapters 4 and Chapter 10. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Discpad (talk • contribs)

I can't find any source that says the murder occurred at Ali's house, only the CityPaper article that says it happened in Cherry Hill. While Major Coxson might be a good article subject, I'm not sure he should be listed as a notable resident if his only connection to CH was having been murdered there. (The "mayoral candidate" part you quoted refers to Camden, not CH.) If there was a high-profile murder at Ali's house I think it would have been a much bigger story, no? Also, one of the sources in the Major Coxson article makes reference to a different Ali, not the boxer, which might be a source of confusion. With no reliable source, I think the reference to Muhammed Ali's house needs to be removed from that article as well per WP:BLP. --MCB 04:38, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

I remember that morning well on the way to private school, as a police helicopter was hovering above the area: We were just south of Kresson Road in Woodcrest on Hartwood Drive; while Muhammad Ali's atrium mansion was just north, on Barbara Drive.

Incidentally, Ali did not have that particular house (that the Coxson family was slain in) built: We walked through it several times when it was being built back in 1968; and construction was almost complete when the builder put the property up for sale; and Ali bought it. (This I know, because my parents almost bought it before Ali swooped in and grabbed it!) Discpad (talk) 00:37, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

It would not have been unusual for a murder like that to be swept under the carpet, as Cherry Hill in the '50's through '70's was a blossoming haven for young, successful families, and it would have tarnished the town's image. "Discpad", perhaps you will remember a massacre that was perpetrated by a disgruntled employee at an office on King's Highway in the 1960's? (No one seems to remember that, perhaps it was covered up too!) 69.136.79.201 (talk) 03:27, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Name of article

I was bold and moved the article from "Cherry Hill Township, New Jersey" to "Cherry Hill, NJ". Cherry Hill is the most commonly used name. The intro still reflects on it being a township, and the official name (as written on the census) is still in the article. Greekboy (talk) 04:47, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

I have no objection to the choice of name of this article. In the future, I would strongly suggest that efforts be made to gauge consensus before moving articles that have been stable for several years with the same title. Alansohn (talk) 04:57, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Merge with Merchantville?

Recently, I heard that Cherry Hill might consolidate with its neighbor, Merchantville. Here are sources that indicate the merge proposal: [1], [2]. Scotch Plains and Fanwood are also considering merging together: [3]. Any ideas? Tinton5 (talk) 00:37, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

The number of municipalities in New Jersey is ludicrous, though the decline from 566 to 565 with the merger of the Princetons might be a harbinger of common sense, and goading from the state can propel some of these possible mergers only so far. The Princeton merger bid failed on no less than five previous occasions, demonstrating that the urge for home rule is strong and can usually be overcome only with strong pre-existing ties and evidence that both parties will come out ahead financially without one being swallowed up by the other. Scotch Plains used to be Fanwood Township and Scotch Plains and Fanwood already share a common school district. Scotch Plains is bigger than Fanwood by a 3-1 margin, but might be close enough for a very, very rough merger of equals. Cherry Hill is almost 20 times larger than Merchantville, a situation that could convince Merchantville residents that they (and their interests) would be lost in a consolidation. By contrast, the Princetons are almost equal in size. You'll here more talk of such prospective consolidations in the future, but until the voters agree there's little to add but the talk. Alansohn (talk) 20:05, 9 December 2011 (UTC)

Great points. We have more towns than California. How insane. Formerly a Cherry Hill resident, I can say that Merchantville has no point of being a separate location. With a population of almost 4000, not even close to a quarter of what CH has (over 70,000). Now currently living in Monmouth, I believe Freehold Twp and Boro should be one Freehold. It would certainly be cost effective and reduce confusion with mail. Also, Englishtown and Manalapan, Berlin Boro and Twp, etc...

A municipal consolidation page was needed I think, but needs expansion. Tinton5 (talk) 02:26, 10 December 2011 (UTC)

News article to consider for inclusion in Economy section

Title: South Jersey biotech firm raises $1.8M → http://www.bizjournals.com/philadelphia/blog/health-care/2013/08/south-jersey-biotech-firm-raises-18m.html --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 00:46, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

Fire companies

[4] Are we going to add lists of police stations, recycling centers, homeless shelters, etc. too? --NeilN ^{talk to me} 02:11, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

• Emergency services are treated across Wikipedia as being far more encyclopedic than homeless shelters. The material is a standard in thousands of articles and is backed by ample reliable and verifiable sources. Alansohn (talk) 02:14, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
  • Actually, it's one primary source and I've come across no other top-level city article that has this level of detail. There's probably ones for New Jersey which you seem to take very keen interest in but others? --NeilN ^{talk to me} 02:21, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
    • The Category:Fire departments of the United States lists about 250 fire department articles, with eight of these in New Jersey. Every one of the fire department articles has detail regarding fire stations similar to what's here, using similar kinds of sources; It would seem rather hard to argue that the material regarding fire stations is completely and entirely unencyclopedic. A place like Cherry Hill, with only 70,000 residents, is unlikely to merit a standalone article for its fire department, which is why it's included in the article for the municipality. I don't have any interest in adding details for fire stations and (to the best of my recollection) I have never added details to any article ab initio, though I'm sure that I have added sources here (perhaps) and in other articles. I've shown that the material is encyclopedic and widely used in articles across Wikipedia. I'm not sure that there is any policy argument to justify deletion of the material here, nor is it apparent that you have offered any such argument. Alansohn (talk) 02:48, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
      • Again, the material is too detailed for a top-level municipality article. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 03:01, 28 January 2015 (UTC)