Talk:List of best-selling music artists

George Michael

period active 1981-2016 :( — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.36.29.116 (talk) 11:06, 26 December 2016 (UTC)

Modern Talking should be on this list update

As an update I was able to find that they have 25.2805 million in certified sales which is within 20% of their 120 million sales claim, as seen with these sources. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_singles (8-9.9 million category) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_Talking_discography https://www.ukmix. org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=77487 (paste in search engine with the . & org together) — Preceding unsigned comment added by J.rodz01 (talk • contribs) 15:04, 29 December 2016 (UTC)

The certified sales requirements are not standard 20% for all artists. The required percentage is based on the first charted year. For Modern Talking, it is 1984, which makes it 46% (see the second yellow box from the top on this talk page). Modern Talking have only 9.6 million certified units, and that wouldn't be enough for 75 million claim.--Harout72 (talk) 02:49, 30 December 2016 (UTC)

Files

Hey Harout, could I see Katy Perry's, Bruno Mars' and Flo Rida's files with certifications, please? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mary1853 (talk • contribs) 15:21, 30 December 2016 (UTC)

Here they are:

• Katy Perry
• Bruno Mars
• Flo Rida--Harout72 (talk) 02:21, 6 January 2017 (UTC)

Mariah Carey

I would like to update Mariah Carey certified and estimated sales. US sales are from 2011 and she has certified more sales since then (We belong together 3x platinum, beatiful gold). More changes can be found in other countries like spain (All I want For Christmas platinum) and more.. Moreover, articles talking about sales around 175 million records are quite old. Nobody talks about less than 200 millions records worldwide or even more: 200 million records - http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-01-02/mariah-carey-flying-blind-as-technical-problems-interrupt-show/8157472 200 million records - http://www.elle.com/culture/celebrities/news/a41288/5-times-mariah-carey-did-the-most/ 220 million records - http://www.cleveland.com/entertainment/index.ssf/2016/12/lionel_richie_and_mariah_carey.html 220 million records - http://www.heraldnet.com/life/mariah-carey-gives-her-own-view-on-new-e-reality-show/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alherpo (talk • contribs) 23:10, 4 January 2017 (UTC)

All of those have been updated, yet there hasn't been any significant progress in Carey's total certified sales. So, for the time being we should avoid updating her claim sales.--Harout72 (talk) 03:23, 5 January 2017 (UTC)

I have seen you updated US sales. However, there are certified sales not taken into account. Some of examples could be Denmark: Streaming: http://www.ifpi.dk/?q=content/mariah-carey-all-i-want-christmas-sme http://www.ifpi.dk/?q=content/mariah-carey-all-i-want-christmas Track: http://www.ifpi.dk/?q=content/mariah-carey-all-i-want-christmas-0 http://www.ifpi.dk/?q=content/mariah-carey-beautiful or Ireland: http://www.irishcharts.ie/awards/gold08.htm http://www.irishcharts.ie/awards/platinum.htm and same for so many countries: Netherlands, South Korea, China, Finland. Most data from other countries have not been updated yet (Spain, Italy and so). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.14.206.23 (talk) 20:33, 5 January 2017 (UTC)

See this file for Mariah Carey's detailed certified sales. All music markets having a total of 100,000 and above certified sales are included on the list. A few things you should know:

• 1) Dutch certified sales are not verifiable at the moment as their database isn't available for the time being.
• 2) As far as I know neither China nor South Korea have certification databases, but if they do, let me know.
• 3) Italy's FIMI has two certifications posted for Carey, Platinum for Merry Christmas (100,000 units), 2x Platinum for "All I Want for Christmas Is You" (100,000 units), both of which are included.
• 4) Irish certified sales are way below the 100,000 units mark, therefore, not on the list.
• 5) Denmark's previous award for just Streaming cannot be included as they are not downloads. IFPI Denmark joined Streaming with Downloads in November 2014, those awards are included.--Harout72 (talk) 01:47, 6 January 2017 (UTC)

It will take some time to me to check all the data. I will answer you in a few days. Thank you so much for your great job on this page! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alherpo (talk • contribs) 11:08, 6 January 2017 (UTC)

For now I found that no certifications from norway have been included and she has more that 100.000 certified sales. Here you can check it https://web.archive.org/web/20120725054452/http://www.ifpi.no/sok/lst_trofeer_sok.asp?type=artist — Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.14.206.23 (talk) 20:46, 6 January 2017 (UTC)

Norway's changes in certification levels are not yet completely known in detail, therefore, all of Norwegian certifications are excluded from the list.--Harout72 (talk) 02:26, 7 January 2017 (UTC)

New Update

UK : The Scientist - Platinum (BPI) 2. I need updated Coldplay file. Can you give me? Esambuu (talk) 06:07, 8 January 2017 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. DRAGON BOOSTER ★ 15:56, 8 January 2017 (UTC)

Rihanna

Hi there,

a source published by Billboard claimes that Rihanna already sold 275 million records: http://www.billboardmusicawards.com/2016/05/rihanna-perform-2016-bbmas/ I know the rules of this list and that she needs her claimed sales supported by 73.3 % certified sales. 73.3 % of 275 million means a total of 201,575 certified units. Rihanna already passed this amount and I can't see any reason of not updating her claimed sales? Has it something to do with the streaming issue or did I just miss something else?

Thanks --Ilikeriri (talk) 18:48, 8 January 2017 (UTC)

Yes, the streaming makes her certified sales go up enormously. Just her US digital singles certified sales are over certified by 21 million units because of Streaming, also her albums shipment makes her albums over certified by another 3.5 million, but we mainly should focus on the streaming issue here. So, the 21 million in just US over certification brings her total down from 209.9 million to 188.9 million. But the next sales upgrade for Rihanna will be a claim standing around 220 or 230. The 275 million will not be used for a long time as that is completely inflated for the time being.--Harout72 (talk) 19:10, 8 January 2017 (UTC)

Alright, I get the point and understand it now. Thank you for answering.--Ilikeriri (talk) 19:14, 8 January 2017 (UTC)

Kiss record sales

On this page Kiss is said to have sold approximately 75 million records. In the article about Kiss it is stated that the band has sold over 100 million records (which is the correct number). I hereby ask anyone who could change this mistake to do so. Some sources: - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiss_(band) - http://www.kissonline.com/history - http://dailymusicbreak.com/rock/kiss-is-no-joke