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::Go see my last round of edits after your comments, I sourced the thing. Which, frankly, the other editor could have done, while it was time-consuming, it was not rocket science. I get very tired of these driveby deletions of non-controversial material. To let them go when I have a watchlist of about 5000 articles to maintain often means that the material is either gone for good or will later be re-added as a new edit without a fix. Sometimes there is no deadline on WP and removing everything that's unsourced when it isn't a problem -- creates problems. JMO. [[User:Montanabw|<font color="006600">Montanabw</font>]]<sup>[[User talk:Montanabw|(talk)]]</sup> 02:34, 5 May 2017 (UTC) |
::Go see my last round of edits after your comments, I sourced the thing. Which, frankly, the other editor could have done, while it was time-consuming, it was not rocket science. I get very tired of these driveby deletions of non-controversial material. To let them go when I have a watchlist of about 5000 articles to maintain often means that the material is either gone for good or will later be re-added as a new edit without a fix. Sometimes there is no deadline on WP and removing everything that's unsourced when it isn't a problem -- creates problems. JMO. [[User:Montanabw|<font color="006600">Montanabw</font>]]<sup>[[User talk:Montanabw|(talk)]]</sup> 02:34, 5 May 2017 (UTC) |
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:::{{ping|Montanabw}} Clearly you are still uncomfortable that three editors admonished you for your edits to [[Great Falls, Montana]]. I personally would drop it, but clearly you'd like my opinion so I will tell you that the addition of unsourced content is one of the reasons there is a cesspool of half-truths littering so many articles. If an editor cannot take the time to source their edits, they should not add them....and they absolutely should not demand that others hunt down sources for their sloppy edits. If every experienced editor thought, "hmmm, it kinda looks true, the numbers all seem to add up, I'll just leave it and hope it's true"...the project would soon become an absolute unreliable failure. As well, at [[Talk:Great Falls, Montana]], you insulted [[User:SummerPhDv2.0]], who has made 30,885 edits, by calling them a "new user" and a jerk, and you said you were too busy to source your edit because you were watching the Kentucky Derby. My barnstar for diplomacy is not forthcoming. I'd like to drop it here. Thank you. [[User:Magnolia677|Magnolia677]] ([[User talk:Magnolia677#top|talk]]) 08:56, 5 May 2017 (UTC) |
:::{{ping|Montanabw}} Clearly you are still uncomfortable that three editors admonished you for your edits to [[Great Falls, Montana]]. I personally would drop it, but clearly you'd like my opinion so I will tell you that the addition of unsourced content is one of the reasons there is a cesspool of half-truths littering so many articles. If an editor cannot take the time to source their edits, they should not add them....and they absolutely should not demand that others hunt down sources for their sloppy edits. If every experienced editor thought, "hmmm, it kinda looks true, the numbers all seem to add up, I'll just leave it and hope it's true"...the project would soon become an absolute unreliable failure. As well, at [[Talk:Great Falls, Montana]], you insulted [[User:SummerPhDv2.0]], who has made 30,885 edits, by calling them a "new user" and a jerk, and you said you were too busy to source your edit because you were watching the Kentucky Derby. My barnstar for diplomacy is not forthcoming. I'd like to drop it here. Thank you. [[User:Magnolia677|Magnolia677]] ([[User talk:Magnolia677#top|talk]]) 08:56, 5 May 2017 (UTC) |
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:::::Three editors? I see two people -- who were too lazy to help verify content! And what I want is you to acknowledge that you made a knee-jerk and very superficial analysis when you claimed that only . Summer went in and for no clear reason I could see, just randomly blanked an entire list of films (where, upon review, there were a couple wrong items, but the rest checked out as really filmed there), which is just rude. And no, I was not "watching the Derby" (which is tomorrow -- Saturday), I was creating content: [[Irish War Cry]] just now, [[Girvin]] a bit earlier. I am just very irritated at people who randomly blank stable content instead of checking them out. I do understand that Summer had two accounts -- I merely saw that the current one was created in 2015 and did not realize there was another one. [[User:Montanabw|<font color="006600">Montanabw</font>]]<sup>[[User talk:Montanabw|(talk)]]</sup> 08:01, 6 May 2017 (UTC) |
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::::Clarification: "SummerPhDv2.0" is the result of a lost password. Combined with my edits as "SummerPhD", I'm somewhere north of 100,000 edits over 11 years. I don't like being called a "jerk". I much prefer the kind of accusations catalogued at [[User:SummerPhDv2.0#NOT]]. - <span style="color:#D70270;background-color:white;">Sum</span><span style="color:#734F96;background-color:white;">mer</span><span style="color:#0038A8;background-color:white;">PhD</span><sup>[[User talk:SummerPhDv2.0|v2.0]]</sup> 13:01, 5 May 2017 (UTC) |
::::Clarification: "SummerPhDv2.0" is the result of a lost password. Combined with my edits as "SummerPhD", I'm somewhere north of 100,000 edits over 11 years. I don't like being called a "jerk". I much prefer the kind of accusations catalogued at [[User:SummerPhDv2.0#NOT]]. - <span style="color:#D70270;background-color:white;">Sum</span><span style="color:#734F96;background-color:white;">mer</span><span style="color:#0038A8;background-color:white;">PhD</span><sup>[[User talk:SummerPhDv2.0|v2.0]]</sup> 13:01, 5 May 2017 (UTC) |
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::::::{{u|SummerPhDv2.0}}, I was in error for thinking you a relatively new user so I will apologize for that. However, as an editor who myself has also been around over 11 years and closing in on 100,000 edits, I am not going to apologize for saying you were a jerk to blank that movie list-- it's easy to get to 100,000 by removing things, it is hard work to get there by creating content and sourcing it. Also, you expressed some serious anti-western bigotry by calling Great Falls "Smallville" -- It is a major city in the region and trust me, we do have indoor plumbing out here. (how bout this: You apologize for "Smallville" and I will apologize for calling you a jerk?) [[User:Montanabw|<font color="006600">Montanabw</font>]]<sup>[[User talk:Montanabw|(talk)]]</sup> 08:01, 6 May 2017 (UTC) |
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Moncton New Brunswick
Just wondering why you reverted my recent edits on the Moncton New Brunswick article.
The edits were minor, and if you look back on the history of this article I think you will find that I have been the principle contributor for the Moncton article. Most of my work was back in 2007 & 2008, but I go back once or twice a year just to ensure things are still accurate. Things do change over time. The purpose of my edits this time were to correct syntax (in one case) and to update information on the page. For example, the Dieppe Commandos hockey team have moved to Edmundston for the upcoming season, and Crandall University is no longer in expansion mode. Information like this need to be kept current. Again, if you look at my edit history I think you will find that I am not a vandal. My intentions to this article are purely honourable.
Thanks for your attention to this matter. MonctonRad (talk) 23:44, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
- @MonctonRad: Thank you for contacting me. Likely the edits you made are from original research, and I have no doubt now that you have contacted me that they are completely true. Are you able to find a source to support your edit? Likely something was published about the hockey team moving, and about the university. Thank you. Magnolia677 (talk) 00:26, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
@Magnolia677
(1) - Regarding the Dieppe Commandos hockey team, here's a link to a CBC article about this - http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/dieppe-commandos-moving-edmundston-1.3833154. (2) - As for the current status of Crandall University, there is no article to support the edit, but it is factual nonetheless - they built a new academic building and residence, but abandoned a plan to build an arena on campus. There are no current plans for future expansion. (3) - As for the curling championship, here is a link to the Canadian Curling Association website confirming the championship is being held in Moncton this year - http://www.curling.ca/blog/tag/2017-canadian-under-18-curling-championships/ (4) - the fourth edit was only to the introductory paragraph, and I was revising some of the wording I thought was stilted.
I would appreciate if you would reinstate my edits please. Thanks
MonctonRad (talk) 03:14, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
- @MonctonRad: Just add the sourced content back into the article, along with the source. Thank you. Magnolia677 (talk) 09:15, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for the barnstar
I really appreciate it! LithiumAneurysm (talk) 14:20, 28 March 2017 (UTC)
Why were my edits changed on the Harrison, Arkansas page? I understand the historical photo we were given and scanned may have issues, but why did you alter the photo layout and place the photo from 2013 above the other photos? I have provided accurate information on the history and supported that with photos. Please advise.Mattsrealm (talk) 21:10, 28 March 2017 (UTC)
Also, why were all of the sports venues I added under Parks and Recreation removed? Here is the source for all of those venues. http://harrisonarkansas.org/c_upe_view.php?id=275Mattsrealm (talk) 21:16, 28 March 2017 (UTC)
- @Mattsrealm: You added text to the article in addition to the photos, but did not provide a source to support the text. It appeared to be original research so I deleted it. Please take a moment to read Wikipedia:Verifiability. I also moved the photos because their placement was pushing the population template to the bottom of the article. As well, I flagged one of your photos that appeared to be a copyright violation. I also removed "Arkansas" from the photo captions. Magnolia677 (talk) 21:19, 28 March 2017 (UTC)
- @Mattsrealm: Feel free to add your text back and include the source. Thanks. Magnolia677 (talk) 21:21, 28 March 2017 (UTC)
- @Magnolia677 Can I rearrange the photos on the page without deleting them? I would prefer the photos that have true historical significance be at the top of the page and push the one depicting hate as you have agreed to the bottom of the page. Also, I will be sure to include the web sources going forward. Thanks!Mattsrealm (talk) 21:27, 28 March 2017 (UTC)
- The photo depicting hate actually has sourced text in the history section. Ideally, photos should be near the text that describes them. For example, a photo of a university should be in the education section, though this isn't always possible. There should also be a purpose to the photos added to articles. Have a look at Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Images and Wikipedia:Images. Magnolia677 (talk) 21:42, 28 March 2017 (UTC)
- @Magnolia677 Can I rearrange the photos on the page without deleting them? I would prefer the photos that have true historical significance be at the top of the page and push the one depicting hate as you have agreed to the bottom of the page. Also, I will be sure to include the web sources going forward. Thanks!Mattsrealm (talk) 21:27, 28 March 2017 (UTC)
Using this theory, all of the photos below it should be above it as it was the furthers item down the page. For example, the flood of 1961 was along Crooked Creek and it has since been dammed up to form Lake Harrison thus the supporting image was provided. Also, the Buffalo River photo would be above it due to the river being designated a National Park in 1972 and the headquarters for the river are in Harrison. I hope you are not offended, but it appears as though you are working against me on this effort. Picture placement is important and that is why I feel that photos of greater significance to our City's history should have placement priority.Mattsrealm (talk) 21:52, 28 March 2017 (UTC)
- @Mattsrealm: Here's the thing, the Wikipedia article about Harrison isn't actually owned by Harrison, it's owned by Wikipedia. Editors follow very specific rules when editing, which is why I directed you to the policies about images. I realize you want to remove the references and photo of your city's racist past, and who could blame you. I looked at your city's website and it looks lovely and welcoming. That is why I suggested discussing it on the article's talk page. Magnolia677 (talk) 22:03, 28 March 2017 (UTC)
- Wow....that's one poor article. The history section reads like an eighth grade "D" essay. Way too many pictures. All but maybe three need to go with a Commons link box in the external link section. Non encyclopedic tone throughout. Poor sourcing in many places. Egad. John from Idegon (talk) 01:54, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
- @John from Idegon: I'm not sure if you've ever been to Arkansas, but it is breathtakingly beautiful and the people are as welcoming and polite as any you'll ever meet. Some of the backroads of Desha County get you right up to the Arkansas and Mississippi Rivers. Here is an interesting factoid: Lake Beulah and Lake Whittington are both located in Arkansas and Mississippi, as the state line runs the center of both lakes; and you can use a fishing license from either Arkansas or Mississippi in both lakes. But the only possible way you could get a small fishing boat into either lake is by driving through Mississippi. Also, I believe 32°10′42.1″N 91°4′24.82″W / 32.178361°N 91.0735611°W is the old Jefferson Davis plantation, but the only way to get there is by driving through Louisiana. It would be interesting to create a list of the enclaves of the Mississippi River.
- Wow....that's one poor article. The history section reads like an eighth grade "D" essay. Way too many pictures. All but maybe three need to go with a Commons link box in the external link section. Non encyclopedic tone throughout. Poor sourcing in many places. Egad. John from Idegon (talk) 01:54, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
- While I've got your ear, a while back I created the category settlements destroyed during the American Civil War, but no one seems to know about it. If you can make use of it that would be great. Cheers! Magnolia677 (talk) 11:05, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
- Passed through a couple times on a very bizarre Chicago Motor Club routing from NW Indiana to the Austin TX area when I was a kid. I remember a very long very straight two lane North South road thru Mississippi that seemed to have been built to avoid any town with more than 100 people in it. Did spend a week in the Ozarks once. Not a big fan of high temperatures and high humidity. The desert I live in now suits me well. John from Idegon (talk) 11:36, 29 March 2017 (UTC).
@Magnolia677 Correct me if I am wrong but the individual Thomas Rob should not be listed on the history portion but rather the notable people section. Using this theory, every famous individual that lives within 20 miles of Harrison should also be listed in this section. He does not live in Harrison. He does not even work in Harrison. Yet he is listed on the Harrison wiki page. Thoughts?Mattsrealm (talk) 13:51, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
- @Mattsrealm: I recall seeing something about that on the talk page at some point. He's in a place called Zinc of something like that, but keeps a mailing address in Harrison. Magnolia677 (talk) 15:34, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
- @Magnolia677 that is correct. However, he is a notable person and probably should be moved to that listing.Mattsrealm (talk) 19:17, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
I don't think you've sufficiently established the notability for Brucedale to warrant its own page. I suggest leaving it as a redirect to Guelph/Eramosa, and adding anything you might want to say to that page.Tunborough (talk) 11:24, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
- @Tunborough: If Brucedale was a redirect, Wikipedia readers would miss out on the article's brief but important content, and the nifty picture. Brucedale is also a populated, legally recognized place, much like Pink, Mississippi and a thousand other stub articles about small towns, so it's quite notable per WP:GEOLAND. Even better, the Brucedale article provides a good template for other editors who may wish to create articles out of all the redirected hamlets in the area. A good place to start would be with Rockwood, which is mentioned on the Guelph/Eramosa article. Rockwood has a long and important history and would make an excellent article. Thanks for writing. Magnolia677 (talk) 15:31, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
- Sorry, not convinced. A plowing match over 50 years ago does not represent a history, and a traffic light does not represent a photogenic attraction. I find this stub embarrassing. Tunborough (talk) 01:36, 30 March 2017 (UTC)
- Your work on Centre Inn, Ontario, on the other hand, does have merit. Thank you for that. However, it is somewhat moot, because few people would recognize the name Centre Inn any more. In contrast, Rockwood, Eden Mills, Marden and Everton are still recognizable communities. Tunborough (talk) 01:57, 30 March 2017 (UTC)
- @Tunborough: I noticed that User:Fixer88 created Kittle, Arkansas today. Look at Kittle on a map, in the middle of nowhere, and the stub article just one sentence long. If you had your way it would be deleted along with Port Anderson, Mississippi, which has been covered by the Mississippi River for the past 150 years. Please don't criticize the hard work of other editors. Some editors enjoy writing stub articles about ghost towns. If you look at West Virginia, nearly every article about the tiny hamlets in the state were written by one editor. Go look. He was written up in the news for his hard work. I would never approach you and say, look at Jaap Stotijn, who cares about an obscure Dutch oboist.
- If you feel Brucedale, Ontario or Kittle, Arkansas have no merit and embarrass you because few people recognize these places, then put forward a proposal to get rid of stub geographical articles. Until then, keep your insults to yourself. And for the record, Port Anderson gets more views per day than Jaap Stotijn. Magnolia677 (talk) 03:24, 30 March 2017 (UTC)
- I apologize for the harsh tone of my comments. Stubs in general do bother me, and this one in particular caught my attention. I'll have to suck it up and accept that others view stubs differently and stubs aren't going away. For the few articles I've created, I've tried to make sure the article had some substance before I moved it into mainspace. Carry on. Tunborough (talk) 13:17, 30 March 2017 (UTC)
He may be a noted photographer, but Bliss is by far his most noteworthy picture. And if that was your only problem with my edit, why undo the whole thing? His birth year is redundant (already shown in the infobox and later on the page) and I think it's good to specify why Bliss is noteworthy. —Entropy (talk) 16:53, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
- @Entropy: My apology for adding back his birth date. As for what he is most notable for, he participated in DOCUMERICA, and his photos are credited on the following Wikipedia articles: Empire Builder, Mililani, Hawaii, Halstead, Kansas, Searchlight, Nevada, Santa Monica Mountains, Imperial Valley, Upper Newport Bay, Ellwood Oil Field, Malibou Lake, California, Buena Vista Lagoon, Southwest Chief, Aerial application, Labour economics, Ford County, Kansas, and Manual labour. If you feel he is most notable for one particular photo, please discuss on the talk page, as this seems a personal opinion. Thank you. Magnolia677 (talk) 17:17, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
Thanks from Naawada2016
Hi Magnolia677
Thanks for your comment on the edit of The Crow reservation. About Frank B. Linderman's book: Plenty Coups. I have the book on my shelf, and the pages 239-240 are right. It is a Bison Book, first printed 1962, printing no. 10,(original version 1930). Last page in my book is 324. Yes, it is confusing, when they print a new version with more text on each page. I am quiet new at this, and it is first time I try using a Talk page, so I hope, I have done it all right.Naawada2016 (talk) 08:09, 1 April 2017 (UTC)
Mlpearc
I'm going to put this discussion over here, otherwise Coffee will yell at me for stalking him. I'm not, I saw the AIV report (after seeing a note on ANI that it was backlogged), looked at the issue (which had happened previously on an article I got to GA and did extensive work on) and was surprised to see Mlpearc blocked.
While I have been known to connect my forehead to a masonry-based solid permanent barrier on multiple occasions with Mlpearc, he is usually right on merits and my problem is I wish he would just twinkle less and use personalised messages more. I don't think a block is particularly helpful or useful; in this situation I would have full-protected the article and told everybody to grow up, not block. Still, 24 hours is not particularly long so I assume he can sit it out. @NeilN: might want to comment as I think he's been involved in a similar dispute in the past. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 12:04, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
- @Ritchie333: I'm not thrilled with a number of WP:3RR blocks I've seen lately. All admins need to pay more heed to the last paragraph: "If an editor violates 3RR by mistake, they should reverse their own most recent reversion. Administrators may take this into account and decide not to block in such cases—for example if the user is not a habitual edit warrior and is genuinely trying to rectify their own mistake." It is policy that blocks aren't punishment yet in these types of cases it definitely seems they're being levied that way. I'm never going to WP:3RR block an established editor with no edit warring blocks or recent warnings without first warning them (usually a note along the lines of, "Hey, be careful of WP:3RR please") and giving them a chance to stop (which achieves the goal of stopping the disruption). Even for newer editors who have been warned and still break 3RR, I will still sometimes look for alternatives if I think they're communicating intelligently. However I am often not fast enough to prevent a block. [1], [2] --NeilN talk to me 13:47, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
- I don't 3RR block very often; usually it's because I believe the blockee knows exactly what 3RR is and is behaving in a way that suggests it only applies to other editors, not them. (example). Perhaps somewhere in WP:3RR's policy page, near where it says that the rule is not a license to revert a number of times, we should say equally that it's not a license for an admin to block the minute somebody does four reverts (or what I have trivialised as "eeny, meeny, miny, mo, ippy, dippy, 3RR, banhammer!"). Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 14:09, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
April 2017
I would appreciate you responding to my response I made to you on my talk page rather than staying quiet, which makes you look suspicious about it. Bloomdoom2 (talk) 22:41, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
- @Bloomdoom2: I responded by placing a final warning on your talk page. Hopefully an administrator can look into your disruptive editing. Magnolia677 (talk) 22:47, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
- A final warning doesn't answer what I've asked you, you only put that because I re-added the info, otherwise I know you wouldn't respond to it, because you already done it before. Care to back up your "disruptive editing" claim of mine? Bloomdoom2 (talk) 22:50, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
- Please discuss your concern on the article talk page where you added your unsourced content. Magnolia677 (talk) 22:54, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
- Why can't you just respond directly on my talk page originally, would be quicker to do so, and it wasn't unsourced, you should now better about how singles work. Bloomdoom2 (talk) 23:19, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
- Please discuss your concern on the article talk page where you added your unsourced content. Magnolia677 (talk) 22:54, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
- A final warning doesn't answer what I've asked you, you only put that because I re-added the info, otherwise I know you wouldn't respond to it, because you already done it before. Care to back up your "disruptive editing" claim of mine? Bloomdoom2 (talk) 22:50, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
I want to know why my example in the "In Popular Culture" section of the definition of "flibbertigibbet," which you removed almost as soon as I added it, wasn't as valid as any other example. It was a line in Charlotte's Web, spoken by the goose. I'll put it back as many times as I have to, unless you can prove to me that the goose didn't say it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.21.66.178 (talk) 16:57, 6 April 2017 (UTC)
- @174.21.66.178: What was your source? Magnolia677 (talk) 17:11, 6 April 2017 (UTC)
Calabasas
Asking for your input on Talk:Calabasas,_California#Notable_people as your revert comes across as random. Lyrda (talk) 22:21, 6 April 2017 (UTC)
A kitten for you!
![](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a5/Red_Kitten_01.jpg/150px-Red_Kitten_01.jpg)
Thanks for your patience, keep your chin up!
Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 06:37, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
"This page is an essay on style. It contains the advice and/or opinions ..." and "This advice page is not a formal Wikipedia policy or guideline and is not part of the Manual of Style." Abel (talk) 17:13, 9 April 2017 (UTC)
- @Id4abel: I'm not sure what prompted you to tell me that, but thanks! In fact, Wikipedia guidelines have been created through the consensus of many editors, which means that deviating from a guideline goes against a pre-existing consensus. A discussion on an article talk page is the best route to go when this is necessary. Thank you. Magnolia677 (talk) 17:18, 9 April 2017 (UTC)
- @Magnolia677: It might be important to remember that "opinions" and "not a formal Wikipedia policy or guideline " does not equal "delete whatever in the heck you feel like then quote WP:USCITIES as if that opinion essay has authority." Abel (talk) 17:22, 9 April 2017 (UTC)
- @Id4abel: Could you please tell me what your issue is? Also, no need to ping me on my own talk page. Thank you. Magnolia677 (talk) 17:32, 9 April 2017 (UTC)
The edits you—and others—are making to Oscar Munoz (executive) are simply non-encyclopdic. My addition of the “Controversy” section is an attempt to present the basic facts as stated without getting into alarmist, non-encyclopedic edit warring. Nothing that I posted paints the person in question in a positive light. Adding tabloid-like details—like you are other editors are doing—does nothing to add to the credibility of the claims. I will continue to edit the page—and related pages—for this kind of tone/tenor as I see fit. At the end of the day we all agree: What happened was horrible. But for Wikipedia these horrific facts need to be presented in a clear, neutral and verifiable way. Simple as that. --SpyMagician (talk) 14:23, 11 April 2017 (UTC)
- @SpyMagician: I specifically stated in my edit summary that "controversy" sections are to be avoided, per Wikipedia:Criticism. You do not own that article. Magnolia677 (talk) 14:26, 11 April 2017 (UTC)
- If my worst infraction was the use of “Controversy” I clearly state I reworded the heading. And yes, I do not “own that article.” Neither do you. What attracted me to it and engaged me in editing it is the inane level of non-encyclopedic content as well as non-neutral POV on edits you and others have made. Simple as that. The incident is horrific and ridiculous; sensationalism doesn’t change that. This is Wikipedia not a gossip blog. Always remember that. --SpyMagician (talk) 14:29, 11 April 2017 (UTC)
- Clearly you did not read my edit. I rewrote the section for clarity and cleaned up the sloppy sourcing. Pay attention. Magnolia677 (talk) 14:32, 11 April 2017 (UTC)
- I did read your edit. The sourcing is sloppy and you continually engage in edits that are non-neutral and non-encyclopedic. --SpyMagician (talk) 14:37, 11 April 2017 (UTC)
- Clearly you did not read my edit. I rewrote the section for clarity and cleaned up the sloppy sourcing. Pay attention. Magnolia677 (talk) 14:32, 11 April 2017 (UTC)
- If my worst infraction was the use of “Controversy” I clearly state I reworded the heading. And yes, I do not “own that article.” Neither do you. What attracted me to it and engaged me in editing it is the inane level of non-encyclopedic content as well as non-neutral POV on edits you and others have made. Simple as that. The incident is horrific and ridiculous; sensationalism doesn’t change that. This is Wikipedia not a gossip blog. Always remember that. --SpyMagician (talk) 14:29, 11 April 2017 (UTC)
- You reverted my edit that removed "overbooked," stating it is well-sourced. It's not well-sourced; it's mainly headlines and commenters throwing the word about. The news stories suggest that what happened was, they decide to put four employees on the plane, at the expense of paying passengers. That is not the same as "overbooked."
Here is the source that confirms that it was NOT overbooking: [1] From the above source: "United required the seats on the Chicago plane to accommodate several crew members who needed to get to Louisville to avoid canceling other flights, spokesman Charles Hobart said. The flight wasn’t oversold, he said." also from the same source: " United said initially that the flight was overbooked, its staff chose him and he didn’t want to get bumped. The airline later said it needed room for its own employees to get to another flight." 40.139.55.99 (talk) 19:03, 11 April 2017 (UTC)
References
Edit warring warning
Please don't edit war. You came close to a block. Just because you revert three times instead of four does not mean you won't be blocked next time. Thanks. El_C 08:16, 12 April 2017 (UTC)
Re:U.S. Route 66 in Arizona
Sorry, I forgot to use an edit summary. But I removed those categories because the highway no longer exists, and therefore shouldn't get a place in county transportation categories. ToThAc (talk) 02:23, 14 April 2017 (UTC)
Velous Music Wikipedia Page
Good morning, this is Claire C, Tyler Bryant, other know as Velous Music assistant. I have tried to make several edits on Velous's Wikipedia page which in turn gets changed back. I understand that an artist can not have control of their own page and you decide what goes up on his page and what comes down. He has a lot of work from the past 2 to 3 years that isn't accounted for on his Wikipedia page. I would like to know how we go about working with you from here on out in order to give you up to date and accurate information about Velous Music.
Thank you, ckcampo — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ckcampo (talk • contribs) 06:18, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
- @Ckcampo: Thank you for contacting me. I removed your edits to Velous because they didn't appear helpful, while another editor removed your edits because they felt they were promotional. Please take a moment to read Wikipedia:Conflict of interest. Any requests for edits to the Velous article should adhere to WP:COIRESPONSE and WP:PAYTALK. Thank you. Magnolia677 (talk) 11:29, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
Glen Ellen
- Quarryhill Botanical Garden :
12841 Highway 12, Glen Ellen, CA 95442
- Jack London's Grave :
Writer Jack London lived in Glen Ellen from 1909 to his death in 1916...
The site of his ranch is now Jack London State Historic Park, which contains the ruins of Wolf House, several ranch buildings, the grave of Jack...
--CVB (talk) 14:20, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
WondaGurl
This edit you made doesn't require a source (and the pun isn't funny), its on the album' article I Decided, where the track listing itself on that article is here and is sourced. Please do not underestimate the importance of checking the album's article for backup, I am re-adding what you removed and classified as "unsourced content", because its not unsourced. Bloomdoom2 (talk) 03:01, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
- @Bloomdoom2: You will leave me little choice but to report you for edit waring. I'm sorry your editing style has remained so difficult. Magnolia677 (talk) 03:10, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
- I'm sorry for your constant need for pointless "sourced edits" that you force upon other editors, which is exhausting by the way, and in this case its not even a reasonable case to add one. You just refuse to let go, I even gave you the source, but you feel that you are "in charge" and get to call out if an edit is "sourced", "unsourced", "reliable" or "unreliable", more like unacceptable of your behavior. Just to remind you, you don't own articles, but your actions appear that you feel you do every time when an editor messes with the Kodak Black article, regardless of you creating it. Bloomdoom2 (talk) 03:23, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
Maps
Cities, towns, and just about every article using the settlement template almost all have text similar to “according to the Census” without ever bothering to show what those statistical areas include.[1] Fairfax County alone has a similar budget to the entire state of Montana. Knowing what is included in a statistical area can radically change how accurately people compare areas. Enough with the war on maps. Your most common complaint is that the maps are “overpowering.” While that is not true, if it were true you could easily fix the situation by adding to the text. Abel (talk) 15:50, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
References
- ^ "Washington-Arlington-Alexandria, DC-VA-MD-WV". U.S. Census Bureau. U.S. Department of Commerce. Retrieved 12 April 2017.
- You have added your enormous self-created map to a number of articles. On some articles the text overlaps and is in a hard-to-read font. Your map does not differentiate counties from cities. Moreover, you have taken it upon yourself to add your map to locations only on the fringe of the map area. Finally, consensus has still not been reached about whether your map should even be included on articles, see Talk:Manassas, Virginia#RfC about the large map of surrounding counties. Yet there it is, taking up half the page on a number of articles. Magnolia677 (talk) 16:03, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
Hi, Magnolia. I just noticed your recent changes on the above article and thank you. Typically promoting stuff found on many non public school articles. One thing tho. If you will notice, the descriptions in the Notables section are sentence fragments (which is fine), not sentences, and as such they should not end in a period. Nit picky MOS stuff for sure, but just an FYI for the future. John from Idegon (talk) 19:37, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
Odd AVI report
This was a bit of a odd report at AVI. I have no clue if this is normal or not. —JJBers 16:24, 21 April 2017 (UTC)
- @JJBers: I used the drop-down menu in Twinkle and sent it to the wrong admin board. It should have gone to the username board. Sorry about that! Magnolia677 (talk) 16:32, 21 April 2017 (UTC)
Please stop scolding me re: edits on articles on my Talk page
I have asked you several times now, but you continue to post notes on my Talk page, routinely scolding me for edits I have made on articles. Those articles have their own Talk pages where such discussions are more suitable. And the discussions are usually very lengthy there, including comments by editors on both sides of an issue. Some agree with you; some agree with me.
I promise not to start scolding you for edits, or to repeat complaints others have posted about your edits on your Talk page or to repeat edit warring warnings you have received. In return, please stop doing so on my Talk page. Peter K Burian (talk) 16:11, 22 April 2017 (UTC)
Hi, please CHECK carefully, except for the club information, I did cite them, PLEASE CLICK ON THE LINK YOURSELF AND SEE, DO NOT BLINDLY REVERSE EDIT SOMETHING THANK YOU — Preceding unsigned comment added by OkinowaParisMusique (talk • contribs) 20:17, 23 April 2017 (UTC)
- So cheeky. Clearly not a member of the Ambassadors Club. Magnolia677 (talk) 21:33, 23 April 2017 (UTC)
Speedy deletion contested: Pushkin Private School
Hello Magnolia677. I am just letting you know that I contested the speedy deletion of Pushkin Private School, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: A7 does not apply to schools. Thank you. Adam9007 (talk) 00:00, 24 April 2017 (UTC)
Reversion of edit to Vapor degreasing
Do I need to cite a source to support the change of state of liquid water into steam aka water vapor? Water is the universal solvent and by far the most commonly used solvent for vapor degreasing. Surely you're familiar with steam cleaners? Maybe you're not but I am. Do you want an encyclopedia article that leaves out the oldest and most commonly used substance used for the process the article describes or a truly encyclopedic article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.234.100.60 (talk) 02:07, 27 April 2017 (UTC)
Flexicoil suspension reversion
So what is your suggestion as far as how to handle the vast difference between the U.K. locomotive suspension system shows in the image and labeled "Flexicoil suspension" and actual EMD flexicoil locomotive trucks found on EMD locomotives in their country of origin? In the U.S. our locomotives are mounted on trucks that are the entire chassis/suspension/drive system for the locomotive. We don't refer to a "Flexicoil suspension" and certainly don't apply it to any truck design that happens to have coil springs, which appears to be the custom in the U.K. If you'd like I can remove the entire article since its basically all garbage. Certainly I don't claim to be as knowledgeable about locomotives as long-time Wikipedia editors, but I did work on them for a few years as a Union Pacific locomotive machinist at the largest rail classification yard and diesel locomotive repair/maintenance/service facility in the world. Has anyone checked to see if use of "Flexicoil" violates any EMD trademarks? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.234.100.60 (talk) 02:22, 27 April 2017 (UTC)
Flexicoil suspension reversion
So what is your suggestion as far as how to handle the vast difference between the U.K. locomotive suspension system shows in the image and labeled "Flexicoil suspension" and actual EMD flexicoil locomotive trucks found on EMD locomotives in their country of origin? In the U.S. our locomotives are mounted on trucks that are the entire chassis/suspension/drive system for the locomotive. We don't refer to a "Flexicoil suspension" and certainly don't apply it to any truck design that happens to have coil springs, which appears to be the custom in the U.K. If you'd like I can remove the entire article since its basically all garbage. Certainly I don't claim to be as knowledgeable about locomotives as long-time Wikipedia editors, but I did work on them for a few years as a Union Pacific locomotive machinist at the largest rail classification yard and diesel locomotive repair/maintenance/service facility in the world. Has anyone checked to see if use of "Flexicoil" violates any EMD trademarks? 68.234.100.60 (talk) 02:26, 27 April 2017 (UTC)
- @68.234.100.60: I'd suggest adding sources to support your edits, and stop relying on original research. Thank you. Magnolia677 (talk) 02:49, 27 April 2017 (UTC)
our old Louisiana pal
104.243.167.88 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
John from Idegon (talk) 01:28, 28 April 2017 (UTC)
- @John from Idegon: Good eye. There's a range block against him. I just reported a few socks yesterday here. Let me add this one. Cheers. Magnolia677 (talk) 02:30, 28 April 2017 (UTC)
Long Beach freeways revert question
Hi Magnolia677,
I wanted to thank you for your vigilance, but I was hoping to ask for your reconsideration of one of your reverts on the Long Beach, California page...
I understand your concern for most of my additions (which may have been under a different IP address and almost certainly related to Wikitravel-like topics), but I was wondering if it would be more appropriate to have been more selective when choosing information to remove.
I tried my best to reorganize the section to more tightly follow a logical flow, despite referring to places outside of the city. Do you think any of that writing could be salvaged? 134.139.228.65 (talk) 04:21, 28 April 2017 (UTC)
- @134.139.228.65: Thanks for writing. Your edit added several additional paragraphs of text about the freeways in Long Beach, California. I deleted the edit because what was added was a very detailed summary of which freeways connect to which other roads and freeways. Wikipedia editors have agreed that articles should not be travel guides, per WP:NOTTRAVEL and WP:USCITIES. If you feel your edit is very important to the article, it may be best to leave a message on the article's talk page and get the input of others. Thanks again. Magnolia677 (talk) 10:38, 28 April 2017 (UTC)
Hello Magnolia677, Could you please send me the text of my deleted sections on Temple Update and Bell Tower Records while I gather the information to cite the text. I did a lot of work on it online and do not wish to recreate the text again.
Thank you, Ritch James — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nemo1866 (talk • contribs) 23:11, 1 May 2017 (UTC)
- @Nemo1866: All previous versions of an article can be found by clicking the history tab. Magnolia677 (talk) 23:27, 1 May 2017 (UTC)
Thank you. I will work on the corrections/updates to Temple when time allows.
Research
For crying out loud, you know better than to just do a superficial search as on Great Falls, Montana. Thank you ever so much for wasting my time. Next time, put out a little effort before dogpiling with inadequate research. Thank you for wasting a half hour of my time. Montanabw(talk) 01:00, 2 May 2017 (UTC)
- @Montanabw: All you appear to have done is revert two edits. How did that take 30 minutes? Magnolia677 (talk) 01:04, 2 May 2017 (UTC)
- Go see my last round of edits after your comments, I sourced the thing. Which, frankly, the other editor could have done, while it was time-consuming, it was not rocket science. I get very tired of these driveby deletions of non-controversial material. To let them go when I have a watchlist of about 5000 articles to maintain often means that the material is either gone for good or will later be re-added as a new edit without a fix. Sometimes there is no deadline on WP and removing everything that's unsourced when it isn't a problem -- creates problems. JMO. Montanabw(talk) 02:34, 5 May 2017 (UTC)
- @Montanabw: Clearly you are still uncomfortable that three editors admonished you for your edits to Great Falls, Montana. I personally would drop it, but clearly you'd like my opinion so I will tell you that the addition of unsourced content is one of the reasons there is a cesspool of half-truths littering so many articles. If an editor cannot take the time to source their edits, they should not add them....and they absolutely should not demand that others hunt down sources for their sloppy edits. If every experienced editor thought, "hmmm, it kinda looks true, the numbers all seem to add up, I'll just leave it and hope it's true"...the project would soon become an absolute unreliable failure. As well, at Talk:Great Falls, Montana, you insulted User:SummerPhDv2.0, who has made 30,885 edits, by calling them a "new user" and a jerk, and you said you were too busy to source your edit because you were watching the Kentucky Derby. My barnstar for diplomacy is not forthcoming. I'd like to drop it here. Thank you. Magnolia677 (talk) 08:56, 5 May 2017 (UTC)
- Three editors? I see two people -- who were too lazy to help verify content! And what I want is you to acknowledge that you made a knee-jerk and very superficial analysis when you claimed that only . Summer went in and for no clear reason I could see, just randomly blanked an entire list of films (where, upon review, there were a couple wrong items, but the rest checked out as really filmed there), which is just rude. And no, I was not "watching the Derby" (which is tomorrow -- Saturday), I was creating content: Irish War Cry just now, Girvin a bit earlier. I am just very irritated at people who randomly blank stable content instead of checking them out. I do understand that Summer had two accounts -- I merely saw that the current one was created in 2015 and did not realize there was another one. Montanabw(talk) 08:01, 6 May 2017 (UTC)
- Clarification: "SummerPhDv2.0" is the result of a lost password. Combined with my edits as "SummerPhD", I'm somewhere north of 100,000 edits over 11 years. I don't like being called a "jerk". I much prefer the kind of accusations catalogued at User:SummerPhDv2.0#NOT. - SummerPhDv2.0 13:01, 5 May 2017 (UTC)
- SummerPhDv2.0, I was in error for thinking you a relatively new user so I will apologize for that. However, as an editor who myself has also been around over 11 years and closing in on 100,000 edits, I am not going to apologize for saying you were a jerk to blank that movie list-- it's easy to get to 100,000 by removing things, it is hard work to get there by creating content and sourcing it. Also, you expressed some serious anti-western bigotry by calling Great Falls "Smallville" -- It is a major city in the region and trust me, we do have indoor plumbing out here. (how bout this: You apologize for "Smallville" and I will apologize for calling you a jerk?) Montanabw(talk) 08:01, 6 May 2017 (UTC)
- @Montanabw: Clearly you are still uncomfortable that three editors admonished you for your edits to Great Falls, Montana. I personally would drop it, but clearly you'd like my opinion so I will tell you that the addition of unsourced content is one of the reasons there is a cesspool of half-truths littering so many articles. If an editor cannot take the time to source their edits, they should not add them....and they absolutely should not demand that others hunt down sources for their sloppy edits. If every experienced editor thought, "hmmm, it kinda looks true, the numbers all seem to add up, I'll just leave it and hope it's true"...the project would soon become an absolute unreliable failure. As well, at Talk:Great Falls, Montana, you insulted User:SummerPhDv2.0, who has made 30,885 edits, by calling them a "new user" and a jerk, and you said you were too busy to source your edit because you were watching the Kentucky Derby. My barnstar for diplomacy is not forthcoming. I'd like to drop it here. Thank you. Magnolia677 (talk) 08:56, 5 May 2017 (UTC)
- Go see my last round of edits after your comments, I sourced the thing. Which, frankly, the other editor could have done, while it was time-consuming, it was not rocket science. I get very tired of these driveby deletions of non-controversial material. To let them go when I have a watchlist of about 5000 articles to maintain often means that the material is either gone for good or will later be re-added as a new edit without a fix. Sometimes there is no deadline on WP and removing everything that's unsourced when it isn't a problem -- creates problems. JMO. Montanabw(talk) 02:34, 5 May 2017 (UTC)
Toronto collage
![](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c6/Toronto_-_ON_-_Toronto_Skyline2.jpg/500px-Toronto_-_ON_-_Toronto_Skyline2.jpg)
This is not even remotely blurry or taken through a dirty window. It's a professional shot. Charles lindberg (talk) 22:55, 3 May 2017 (UTC)
- Also planes do not fly that low around the city unless it's for show. Picture was likely taken from a helicopter. Charles lindberg (talk) 22:59, 3 May 2017 (UTC)
- @Charles lindberg: Great action shot, but kinda blurry and not as good as the photo it replaced in the Toronto article. Magnolia677 (talk) 23:07, 3 May 2017 (UTC)