Talk:Marvel Cinematic Universe

Stan Lee Same Character.

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Kevin Feige recently confirmed that Lee has been playing the same character in every film he's appeared in within the Marvel Cinematic Universe; he mentions his Captain America: Civil War appearance as a Federal Express Agent in Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2. Therefore, I believe that Stan Lee should be added to the Recurring Characters section. See Here: [1]. - Total-Truth-Teller-24 (talk) 18:18 29 April 2017 (UTC)

Support

Total-Truth-Teller-24 (talk) - Per Above

AnonWikiEditor (talk) - Feige is quoted as saying it.

BrittonJeanSpears (talk) - Aside from both Kevin Feige and James Gunn confirming that Stan Lee has played the same character in every Marvel Cinematic Universe property, the Netflix shows give him the name Captain Irving Forbush of the NYPD. Irving Forbush is the alter-ego of the Marvel superhero Forbush Man. I'm in support of him being added to the recurring characters, since we actually have a name for him and it happens to be someone from the comics. —Preceding undated comment added 04:03, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

Batman3095 (talk) Other than it being a continuity error, I support it. —Preceding undated comment added 18:44, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

Against

--Refuteku (talk) 18:18, 29 April 2017 (UTC) Since he is merely a cameo without a proper character or influence, i say no.

• I am also against this, since it is still a bit unclear (the article even notes that Feige was being a bit "tongue-in-cheek"), but I have updated our mention of Lee with Feige's quote. - adamstom97 (talk) 22:54, 29 April 2017 (UTC)

It may not change your opinion, but to clarify - the article didn't actually say that Feige was being "tongue-in-cheek". It said that even with Feige's statement about him being the same character, the author thought it was being done tongue-in-cheek. It's the author's opinion of it, not Feige's. -AnonWikiEditor (talk) 22:45, 17 May 2017 (UTC)

• I don't understand how he can be same character because he appears in a very wide time range. He appears in 1940s and 2010s. And in all of them he's in same age, has same appearance. How he can be same character then?

EDIT: Ok I get it now, theory suggests he might a character like Uatu the Watcher but still against it because it's not clear - Tehonk (talk) 21:21, 17 May 2017 (UTC)

The same could be said of how did he get from Earth to the space rock he was on? We may not know fully how he traverses space or time, but our lack of knowledge regarding the details doesn't override a quote from Kevin Feige. -AnonWikiEditor (talk) 22:47, 17 May 2017 (UTC)

• Oppose The info regarding this is properly noted below the table. He should not be in the table. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 23:26, 17 May 2017 (UTC)

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Venom

Amy Pascal recently said at a press conference that Venom would be set in the same universe as the rest of the MCU and that Tom Holland could potentialy appear in the Venom movie. Meaning that the Venom movie should be added on to this page Here is the source: https://www.comicbookmovie.com/venom/venom-is-a-part-of-the-marvel-cinematic-universe-according-to-spider-man-homecoming-producer-amy-pascal-a151869

Not only that, but Black & Silver will be as well. They both need to be added to this page. On another note, you need to sign your comments.^--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 18:45, 18 June 2017 (UTC)

I think I have added them in a way that doesn't imply that Marvel Studios is working on them. See also the list of films page. - adamstom97 (talk) 23:44, 18 June 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 19 June 2017

I believe there was an error in naming Sony's universe. Technically, what they have is not a "Marvel Universe" as they only have rights to Spider-Man and Spider-man related characters. Therefore I suggest that any mention of "Sony's Marvel Universe" be renamed to "Sony's Spider-Man Universe". 2001:569:7C20:CF00:4F28:8ADA:83CE:658A (talk) 02:58, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

They can name their universe whatever they want. - adamstom97 (talk) 03:27, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

Don't forget about the Fantastic Four and Mutants(?) ToxicReap (talk) 14:01, 1 July 2017 (UTC)

New Warriors Row (Television Section Addition)

We should really add a row for the New Warriors under Television > Freeform.I would do it but Wikipedia spreadsheets are more confusing than I thought. ToxicReap (talk) 13:59, 1 July 2017 (UTC)

We currently do not have a reliable source stating that this show is in the MCU. - DinoSlider (talk) 15:59, 1 July 2017 (UTC)

There's a Wikipedia page for the team listing it as a release for the freeform shows. Unless you mean it might not be connected to anything else. I don't knoe. ToxicReap (talk) 22:16, 1 July 2017 (UTC)

Correct, an article for the series exists. But as DinoSlider pointed out, it is not confirmed at this time to be a show that exists in the MCU. Thus it is not featured here. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 21:26, 3 July 2017 (UTC)

However, "thus"ly so each and every TV series that has been up for debate of whether it is a part of the MCU or not - HAS IN FACT been a part of the MCU. "Thus" the information in question will "thus" be added to the page, "thus". You can quote me on that "thus".--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 02:04, 28 July 2017 (UTC)

What the hell are you talking about? - adamstom97 (talk) 04:07, 28 July 2017 (UTC)

Hey, User:Adamstom.97 be careful with your vulgarity. WP:CIVIL/SWEARING is a real thing. Chill.--50.232.205.246 (talk) 23:01, 8 August 2017 (UTC)

Glitch in TV series table of Netflix series for Luke Cage season 2

I had noticed a rogue colspan reference in the table on this page, but noted table inserted from List_of_Marvel_Cinematic_Universe_television_series#Netflix_series

I fixed it there, and the change showed up as-desired in an edit preview for this page (no change actually made), but the correction is not showing up on the actual page. Semi-protected needs to allow it through? Wjwarren4269 (talk) 08:29, 8 July 2017 (UTC)

Purge the page to have it update. Your edit on the TV series list was correct and fixed the issue. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 16:46, 8 July 2017 (UTC)

Official Marvel Studios scroll for chronology

Felt this could maybe be added, but wasn't sure where. Marvel Studios has a giant scroll tracking the events and chronology of all the films. Source - Favre1fan93 (talk) 18:42, 8 July 2017 (UTC)

Perhaps after the Earth-199999 info we could add a line saying Marvel started keeping a scroll tracking the films' events? - adamstom97 (talk) 22:06, 8 July 2017 (UTC)

That was one option. Another was in the business practices section. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 22:53, 8 July 2017 (UTC)

TV series' colors

So, when there were only several TV shows as a part of the shared universe, the whole colored boxes were pretty cool because they matched the themes/colors of their respective series. As the shows have exponentially increased, the colors become more and more obscure and completely irrelevant. My question is 'why do we need those colored boxes?' and further more 'what determines the color!?'. Whatever the argument is for them, I think they should be removed. None of the films listed have them. If your argument is to keep them, then 'why don't we put colored boxes next to each of the films, too?'...yeah completely superfluous to have it on the page.--65.130.214.136 (talk) 03:11, 28 July 2017 (UTC)

This is a TV thing, which is why we don't do it for the films. The colours come from the posters for each season—go to any of the season articles (i.e. Daredevil (season 1)) and you'll see what I mean. See WP:TVOVERVIEW for more information. - adamstom97 (talk) 04:12, 28 July 2017 (UTC)

Though this has been a trend, isn't it getting rather manotonous? What should happen if two shows/seasons have the same color poster? There's only so many colors in the rainbow. I think that 65.130.214.136's point holds validity in that it really isn't needed. It's becoming rather messy in my opinion.--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 18:41, 29 July 2017 (UTC)

If you have an issue with a well-established practice that is used in basically every television-related article on Wikipedia, then I'm sure there are far more appropriate places for you to complain about it than here. - adamstom97 (talk) 22:23, 29 July 2017 (UTC)

Other TV shows may be able to sustain that formatting, but given how many various MCU television series there are, and seasons within those shows - I agree with other editors in saying it's going to become a coding mess. With how close two differing shades can look, it's going to get even hairier. Just a thought.--205.122.234.207 (talk) 16:50, 3 August 2017 (UTC)

It's a formatting that has been accepted by the TV project for displaying such info, and has been implemented here. Is it honestly a big deal if we have *gasp* two seasons with a similar color? No it isn't, so I don't see this as an issue or a problem going forward. It also isn't a "coding mess" as the IP is suggesting. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 18:34, 4 August 2017 (UTC)

I jus think that given how expansive and continuous the MCU is -- you all are going to run out of colors. What are you going to do then? Also don't *GASP* at other editors at their expense. Let's be WP:CIVIL here.--50.232.205.246 (talk) 23:03, 8 August 2017 (UTC)

Directors' images

This has been a topic touched on recently, and here's what I have to say about it. There were some constructive edits done by an editor that was quickly reverted on the argument that a consensus was already reached here. The directors' images on this page currently only include recurring directors. In the past, this has been the accepted layout, though said editor pointed out that the reasoning in the past was that images of every director couldn't fit and got goppy-looking. However, this can all be solved by making the directors' images smaller - as I have done similarly on the DCEU page. As this makes the page consistently look the same, and due to the fact that an average reader would have no clue that the editors have decided to only include selected directors - making the page inconsistent - I suggest we add in each of the directors' images by their FIRST respectively entry in the MCU. Adds to the aesthetic and layout of the page.--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 18:46, 29 July 2017 (UTC)

The events you referenced were on the List of Marvel Cinematic Universe films page and you already started a discussion on that talk page. Your argument does not apply here since there are so many directors across several types of media. - DinoSlider (talk) 19:42, 29 July 2017 (UTC)

User:DinoSlider, if the editor's object was to make sure that more people were aware of their edit, then they are perfectly fine with listing it here. I obviously being the one to make the edits that were reverted, appreciate it when editors are collaborative.--50.232.205.246 (talk) 23:44, 8 August 2017 (UTC)

Video game list

I just noticed that the only video game mentioned in the article is Lego Marvel's Avengers, while the navbox has 7 games in it. Should they be added under Marvel Cinematic Universe#Outside media or should a new list of article be created for the games? --Gonnym (talk) 17:18, 31 July 2017 (UTC)

Yes, little blurbs on each of the other games can probably be included here. I don't think a separate list should be created for them since they are outside the actual MCU. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 17:55, 31 July 2017 (UTC)

Ok, I'll add something based on the articles. --Gonnym (talk) 17:59, 31 July 2017 (UTC)

I thought we kept them off the same we kept the novelizations off, since for the most part they are just adaptations of the films.--TriiipleThreat (talk) 18:07, 31 July 2017 (UTC)

I seem to maybe recall that? But I do agree with that feeling. So I'd hold off a sec there Gonnym. If any of the others listed in the navbox are not simply adaptions of the films, they should not be included. And I do believe most of them are, outside the Lego game. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 18:34, 31 July 2017 (UTC)

I'm reading the articles and I'm not really sure you can call them film adaptations. A few examples:

• Iron Man 2 (video game) - the lead says "This story is set after the plot of the film, although the iOS and BlackBerry versions stick roughly to the film's plot" so the console version have new content.
• Thor: God of Thunder - the plot section doesn't sound like the film
• Captain America: Super Soldier - the plot sounds like an adventure from WW2 but maybe not the story we saw in the film?
• Iron Man 3: The Official Game - sounds like this maybe be after the events? Also, its an endless runner, this really cant be an adaptation of any story :)

Anyways, let me know as its basically done. --Gonnym (talk) 18:53, 31 July 2017 (UTC)

Yeah the ones you listed seem to be divergent of the film's stories. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 20:47, 31 July 2017 (UTC)

So then we have 5 (these + lego) out of the 7 games with different stories. Isn't it strange then leaving 2 games out? Also, then what's the verdict for these 4?--Gonnym (talk) 21:06, 31 July 2017 (UTC)

Been going over the references and it seems from here that the Hulk game is also very loosely based on the movie and apart the beginning and the end, the whole story is different. --Gonnym (talk) 23:01, 31 July 2017 (UTC)

Finished going all of the different versions of the games and they seem to be very loosely based on either the film universe or the film itself. I've gone a head and added the short summaries of each game. As a note (to whomever read this), please don't be quick to revert if you do not like the list as the time spent researching the games and finding the references took too much time. If it fits better as a stand-alone list, go ahead. --Gonnym (talk) 16:45, 1 August 2017 (UTC)

It looks okay, structurally. But I'm going to c/e it some and move refs around. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 20:20, 1 August 2017 (UTC)

Can we convert it to table instead? It still seems to weighty. We don't even go into that much detail about the films in this article.--TriiipleThreat (talk) 20:22, 1 August 2017 (UTC)

This honestly looks like something that should be developed at List of Marvel Cinematic Universe video game tie-ins or the like, with just a short paragraph here linking to that. - adamstom97 (talk) 23:17, 1 August 2017 (UTC)

I didn't actually get to c/e yet (so standby on that), but I'm not sure a table would be appropriate, because we've generally reserved the tables for "in canon" MCU material. So if we want to continue that, then maybe splitting to a separate list is also appropriate. But then again, all of are splits are for the "in canon" material too. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 18:36, 4 August 2017 (UTC)

When you finish your c/e could you also update the lead? It currently lists the Lego game as the only game. --Gonnym (talk) 20:52, 5 August 2017 (UTC)