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23:47:46, 25 July 2017 review of submission by Waihekedon

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I am not a relative nor do I have any financial or ulterior reason for persisting with this task. I am interested in the history of this person who has a terminal illness. Hence it is certainly not an advertisement. That said, I definitely 'get' what you are saying.

Third party references to verify her life and contributions are used frequently and a few more have been added

She was very active from her 20's as a woman leading from the 'front' in international protests - not very popular with many governments of course. Now we realise in the South Pacific that the residuals of nuclear testing still remain. Rainbow Warriors are considered quite heroic here.

I'm not sure how to re-write this because it is so interwoven with the politics and social fabric of the 1970's Should I remove all of the material under Life and Career?

Many thanks for what must be a very difficult and time consuming task as a volunteer. As a consolation Susi certainly stepped-up in her prime too.

I'm very grateful to both of you! Don

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Ejembi_John_Onah

You recently moved this page to Draft... it's back! --Salimfadhley (talk) 03:56, 31 July 2017 (UTC)

See also Ejembi J. Onah. Certes (talk) 16:13, 24 August 2017 (UTC)

Hi Certes if you find such a situation again simply tag the page with {{db-g4|The AFD discussion page}} then it will be cleaned up soon thereafter. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 18:01, 24 August 2017 (UTC)

Will do! Thanks for dealing with the page this time. Certes (talk) 18:16, 24 August 2017 (UTC)

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Disability in Sri Lanka

I included sport as a heading and wrote the performance of Sri Lanka at the Paralympics and also I would like ask you whether to add the Sri Lanka national blind cricket team and the Sri Lanka national deaf cricket team into the draft Draft:Disability in Sri LankaAbishe (talk) 04:45, 1 August 2017 (UTC)

That's a good start Abishe. I also usually begin with such "easy" information before getting into the more complex stuff such as population data and politics. I presume you will have access to sources in local languages, I can unfortunately only search in English. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 07:23, 1 August 2017 (UTC)

Thank you - "Dirk Coetsee" / "Coetsenburg"

Hello @Dodger67:,

I just wanted to thank you personally for helping me with my articles. I have also read some of your articles which have really opened my eyes to a number of things that I did not know before. I am still new to editing articles and hope that I get better. Thanks again.Philemon Matilda (talk) 09:37, 1 August 2017 (UTC)

Hi Philemon Matilda, are you familiar with the song "Langs Coetzenburg Vloei 'n Waterstroom"? That's a popular culture reference to the place. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 05:38, 11 August 2017 (UTC)

Hi Dodger67, I am familiar indeed! Thank you for reminding me... Yes, the lyrics were composed by the rugby commentator/sports journalist and Huisgenoot writer Dirk Kamfer (who sadly threw himself off the Steenbras Dam wall). The music was a reworking by Dirkie de Villiers of an old German folk song. It was recorded in the FAK-Sangbundel. Do you think I should add it to my article on Coetsenburg (which hasn't yet been accepted): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Coetsenburg or should I add it to the article on Dirk Coetsee (1655-1725) which also hasn't yet been accepted after my re-editing and re-submission: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Dirk_Coetsee

I also posted in that Wiki forum that you directed me to, the one about South Africa.Philemon Matilda (talk) 09:47, 13 August 2017 (UTC)

Hello again @Dodger67:, Thank you for accepting the Coetsenburg article and for your judicious editing suggestions with which I agree completely. All the best.Philemon Matilda (talk) 10:28, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

Changes necessary

Dear Rodger (Dodger67), thank you for reviewing my page. Could you please point out any specific parts of the article that helped make your decision? I am looking to create this page with more neutral language so that it can be accepted in the future. Thank you very much.

@Dodger67: ArtFer1 (talk) 14:50, 8 August 2017 (UTC)

@Dodger67: STOP editing my page im trying to fix it and youre adding more changes to it

ArtFer1 With all due respect, you are making it worse, and it's not your page, it'w Wikipedia's. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 09:42, 10 August 2017 (UTC)

@Dodger67: Also with all due respect, I was trying to act upon the suggestions you gave me, but you were editing over me, re-adding the changes you wanted me to make. I will stop editing it, so that you may make the changes you find appropriate, as I believe you wouldn't want to see your edits removed because someone is editing over you, correct? Thank you for your help.

@Dodger67: I noticed you removed OTRS Pending images. They have tickets and were released under appropriate licences, was there something else wrong with them?

Also, according to the article The Peninsula Paris, some descriptive information on restaurants is allowed, and therefore, I will be adding some description, up to the amount of detail provided by this other article. If that is ok. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ArtFer1 (talk • contribs) 10:19, 10 August 2017 (UTC)

Baumann & Cie, Banquiers

Dear Dodger67,

Many thanks for your editing and your additions to the article. I got a lot of history between 1920 and 2015 but that is largely based on internal information rather than publicly "reliable" sources. How should we proceed?

I agree on the relevance of the U.S. fine, but I think, the 15% profit drop statement is irrelevant. What do you think?

Thanks again - BaumannBB (talk) 15:48, 10 August 2017 (UTC)

Hi BaumannBB those two stories are what came up on top when I did a news search on Google. How relevant a particular item is can only be judged within the context of the overall article, right now we've got very little context. You could try local libraries or newspaper archives to fill in some more of the history. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 16:01, 10 August 2017 (UTC)

00:37:03, 11 August 2017 review of submission by Ebarnes59

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Hello Dodger67, I would like to know if you declined my page because I did not cite properly. Madeline Jones Procter was my grand mother. I have 7 citations from articles that I have collected over the past 42 years stating her role as the sole-assistant to Anna Jarvis. I also included one citation from Anna Jarvis's wikipedia page which I can remove and cite from another written article. Please let me know if you want me to scan and send you the articles or what I need to do to improve this page so you will accept it. Thank you very much, Elizabeth Barnes Grand daughter of Madeline Jones Procter

Hi Ebarnes59, I see there's a lot of unformatted text on the page. I will have a go at tidying it up sometime today. I will let you know when I'm done and then advise you on next steps to take. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 05:34, 11 August 2017 (UTC)

Appreciate You Dodger67

Thank you for the review and tips. I will go over the Ideas and Tips for newbies. If I read correctly there is a Test page, and I will do my best to research the help links so that I can get all the edits added and make sure I have everything correct before anymore submissions. This was my first addition and finding out it can be rather complex. I know there are tons of pages needing reviews, so I want to make sure mine is in order so not to waste your time again. Thank you again Sir for your time and advise. PösX (talk) 05:46, 11 August 2017 (UTC)

Hi PösX the primary issue you need to address is whether your subject complies with the notability standard for musicians. If he does not qualify, you at least will know what to look for when considering your next article about a musician. If you need further advice please feel free to ask at the Teahouse for new editors. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 07:59, 11 August 2017 (UTC)

I'm following you. My purpose here is putting the focus more on Greg now as a solo artist. We have been a professional national touring band from 2006, until my departure in 2012 from two failed back surgeries, that ended my stage career. Since that time, Greg has been writing and recording and back to touring. I see now where I need to make the edits and additions for this page. I still run the social media sites for the band, and wanting to take advantage of the opportunities here to go into more detail and promotional interest. Thank you for pointing me in the right directions. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PösX (talk • contribs) 07:06, 12 August 2017 (UTC)

Sorry, I'm new.

Sorry, I wasn't trying to fight on the Teahouse page. I'm new to this so I went to the help link and it told me to ask questions there so I posted it there. Then that same guy came in and started trying to make me look bad to undermine the validity of my concerns. I really am at a loss. I went to the dispute resolution page but I'm not sure where to go or if that's even the right way to proceed. Any advice?FP2C (talk) 08:29, 12 August 2017 (UTC)

Hi FP2C I see discussion is still ongoing at the article's talk page, so participating there is the correct thing to do. Only if that discussion ends without a clear consensus does the next step of the dispute resolution process become relevant. So, currently the article talk page is the only place where the dispute should be discussed. Keep in mind that the discussion must be about content, not about contributors. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 20:11, 13 August 2017 (UTC)

Thank you very much for the response, I will be sure to read through all related information. In relation to the article, it appears a majority of contributors are in agreement but there is a small group that disagrees, reverts the change, and labels others as partaking in an "edit war". Hopefully some level-headed, more experienced editors will arrive and set things straight. That being said, my question on Teahouse wasn't so much about that article specifically or the particular editor (I didn't name either) but about protocol regarding situations like that where, even though a majority seems to have been established, a small group seems unwilling to accept said majority opinion. To add complexity to the matter, as you can see in that Teahouse thread, even though I didn't mention the article or the editor in order to maintain objectivity from people who might answer about proper protocol, the editor "followed" me around trying to make me look bad and discredit my concerns (a task he evidently accomplished because he managed to get my question labeled as an argument). In addition, he has incorrectly labeled me as a "canvasser" which, according to what I've read, puts me at risk of being blocked. I am concerned that his having a more established history as an editor puts me at a disadvantage in this situation. What is the proper way of dealing with harassment like that? Thanks again for taking the time to respond to such a "newbie" issue! FP2C (talk) 14:38, 16 August 2017 (UTC)

Draft submission on John Vorster Square

Dear Dodger67, thank you for taking the time to review my draft article on John Vorster Square. I understand your reason for not accepting my submission. My own reasons for submitting the article were three-fold: Firstly, when I did a search in the initial stages for ‘John Vorster Square under Apartheid’ I got a message to say that I may create a page with this title. Secondly, I think it is an error to redirect a Wikipedia search for John Vorster Square (which has current notability) to Johannesburg Central Police Station (which has no real relevance in an encyclopaedia). Thirdly, the existing article is not well written and contained some serious factual errors, the most glaring of which I have incidentally already corrected myself. But I agree with you that two articles on the same subject would be a duplication. I will thus discard my draft article (once I have read up on how to do so) and concentrate on improving the existing article. I would, however, like to propose that a search for John Vorster Square takes one to an article on John Vorster Square, and does not redirect to Johannesburg Central Police Station, as is currently the case. I will do a bit more reading up in the tutorials on how to request a name change ( I have seen it somewhere) and do so once I have learned how. Thanks again and kind regards from a newcomer Stephen J Marais (talk) 17:21, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

COI - of a different kind

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I have created a new disability article by nation

Sir,I have created a new article on Disability issue on a particular country(including Zimbabwe). Disability in Zimbabwe,which I tried to create it using the draft page Draft:Disability in Zimbabwe.I am not sure about the notability issues,but I provided citations for this article.I am also working hard to create article on Disability in Sri Lanka.So I definitely need help from you as well as from fellow Wikipedians.Thank you. Abishe (talk) 07:27, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

Hi Abishe, I found Disability in Zimbabwe, thank you for a good start. I have editedit to improve the language a bit and also fix a few minor errors. Thanks for your contribution. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 07:59, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

Undo controversial move

Can you undo the move you did on Gun laws in the United Kingdom per the contested move at Talk:Firearms policy in the United Kingdom. I started the procedural RM without realizing you had already executed a move. TonyBallioni (talk) 17:27, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

TonyBallioni Done, I had a suspicion the move would end up being disputed. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 17:57, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

Draft:Brenda J. Sell

SERIOUSLY?!?!?!?! READS LIKE AN ADVERTISEMENT?!?!?!

WHAT THE ACTUAL HELL?!?!?! I've submitted several times, and done everything I can. Waited 2 bloody months for this.

What do you want me to freaking say about someone with the clout that she carries? Good God! I provided links, proof, evidence, timelines, and everything to prove, as well as possible, that what was posted was true. What more do you people want? This is the most ridiculous denial I've ever heard of!!!

You people need to give better advice than "it reads like an advertisement"

That is the POINT of a person of interest. To give their history and accomplishments! I've written, re-written, approved, revised, worked on, edited, re-edited, only to have you tell me, what, its too interesting of a read? Advice, please. This is a part of a project of mine for my own Taekwondo career, and these vague, and ridiculous denials (after waiting months on end for any response) are infuriating!!!

Mastercourington (talk) 20:51, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

Hi Mastercourington, a neutral tone can be quite hard to achieve, particularly for editors who are close to, or have strong feelings about, the subject. Hopefully the Writing better articles guide may be useful to you. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 11:29, 24 August 2017 (UTC)

WikiProject Investment

Hey there! Id like to invite you to the WikiProject Investment

I'd like to invite you to join the Investment WikiProject. There are a lot of Investment related articles on Wikipedia that could use a little attention, and I hope this project can help organize an effort to improve them. So please, take a look and if you like what you see, help get this project off the ground and a few Investment pages into the front ranks of Wikipedia articles. Thanks!

Cheers! WikiEditCrunch (talk) 19:01, 24 August 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for the invitation WikiEditCrunch, but I'm afraid the topic is way outside my comfort zone. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 19:07, 24 August 2017 (UTC)

Alright. Cheers! WikiEditCrunch (talk) 19:14, 24 August 2017 (UTC)

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For Rodger

I came across this and thought of techno-savvy you in SA - "A fox is cat software running on dog hardware" Regards, William Harris • (talk) • 11:41, 25 August 2017 (UTC)

William Harris That's very clever! Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 12:10, 25 August 2017 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Template:Paramount Group

Template:Template:Paramount Group has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Legacypac (talk) 00:39, 28 August 2017 (UTC)

Hello my name is Theresa, and I have a few Ideas for inventions. One of them is involved in the sporting goods department and will make camping out in the summertime very enjoyable.

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