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The Question is if General Patton didn't die do to a broke neck, and he gone to the Pacific. Do you believe that we wouldn't have to dropped the two atomic Weapons. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:MajorJared29|MajorJared29]] ([[User talk:MajorJared29#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/MajorJared29|contribs]]) 16:46, 6 September 2017 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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Anti-Semitism
Why is there no mention of Patton's extreme anti-Semitism? (81.159.6.131 (talk) 22:50, 5 February 2017 (UTC))
- Antisemitism is mentioned, search for it. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 23:02, 5 February 2017 (UTC)
- "Image" section deals with this. —Ed!(talk) 20:45, 6 February 2017 (UTC)
No it doesn't. The article carefully makes no mention of the extreme anti-semitic comments Patton made against Jewish DPs under his care. In fact at present the article is concerned solely to promote Patton's equally toxic Islamophobia. But then it's English Wikipedia, which is merely a vehicle for the Murrcanoid view of the world, so, quelle surprise. The article also unsurprisingly fails to register the actual import of a general officer striking enlisted men (he should have been cashiered, and it says nothing good at all about the United States Army that he wasn't), and the article also fails to register that Patton was a useless general who achieved nothing of note and was merely a show-pony created by the US publicity machine, but, again, quelle surprise.Khamba Tendal (talk) 18:39, 25 April 2017 (UTC)
- This is not a forum for your opinions. Knock it off. MPS1992 (talk) 23:22, 26 April 2017 (UTC)
- There needs to be more mention of Patton's remarks about Jews: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/richard-cohen-bill-oreilly-ignored-george-pattons-anti-semitism/2014/09/29/afe3e3ea-4806-11e4-b72e-d60a9229cc10_story.html?utm_term=.05369dbff737 (5.81.223.156 (talk) 11:23, 7 August 2017 (UTC))
Invasion of the Soviet Union
Why is his plan to invade the Soviet Union in 1945 not mentioned? (2A00:23C4:6393:E500:3D0D:B7A0:14F8:BD0D (talk) 20:20, 15 April 2017 (UTC))
- Which reliable secondary sources discuss it? I certainly think it should be mentioned if appropriately covered. MPS1992 (talk) 23:23, 26 April 2017 (UTC)
- I remember reading about it in the Farago biography but that was a long time ago and I don't have a copy. Dlabtot (talk) 00:55, 27 April 2017 (UTC)
Smoking
Did he, or did he not smoke? I've looked through the article, but can find nothing one way or the other.
I was wondering if anybody knew.
I know that the likes of Hitler and Montgomery did not partake, but a lot of people at that time did imbibe - was he one of them?
RASAM (talk) 20:20, 24 April 2017 (UTC)
- Patton smoked cigars and a pipe. (5.81.223.156 (talk) 11:28, 7 August 2017 (UTC))
Fox Conner told him *not* to be a tank commander
Article says
While in a hospital for jaundice, Patton met Colonel Fox Conner, who encouraged him to work with tanks instead of infantry.
Could that be backwards?
I have a source saying the opposite:
https://books.google.com/books?id=yEGLBAAAQBAJ&pg=PA228 (axelrod, patton's drive, pg228)
conner did not hesitate to counsel him to turn his back on tanks and ask instead to be made an infantry major. Conner was so persuasive that when Lt Col Eltinge visited Patton the next day, he was all ready to tell him that he had decided against the Tank Corps. But Eltinge spoke up first, announcing to Patton that a US tank school was to be opened at Langres as soon as November 15. ... To his diary on Nov 3, Patton confided: "Inspite of my resolution to the contrary I said yes." ... "I kept discussing it pro and con with Col. F. Conner," he wrote, "and again decided on Infantry." ... Yet when Patton was discharged from the hospital on Nov 3, he said nothing to Eltinge, and when he was ordered on Nov 10 to assume command of the tank school, he simply followed orders.
— Axelrod, Patton's Drive (pg228)
Possibly also relevant that Conner was on the AEF tank board (http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a192722.pdf, pdf p 13)
Abewinter (talk) 17:25, 2 May 2017 (UTC)
Request for content check
- Would someone please check some information in the Battle of the Bulge section? The winter of 1944 had been the worse in years. After a meeting with Bradley on the 21st, concerning the Third Army's advance, and Patton desiring good weather for his advance, he ordered a chaplain to compose a prayer which he did. The article gives this rendition:
- "Almighty and most merciful Father, we humbly beseech Thee, of Thy great goodness, to restrain these immoderate rains with which we have had to contend. Grant us fair weather for Battle. Graciously hearken to us as soldiers who call upon Thee that, armed with Thy power, we may advance from victory to victory and crush the oppression and wickedness of our enemies, and establish Thy justice among men and nations. Amen.". It was a terrible winter and I had read somewhere that the prayer differed slightly with "...to restrain this immoderate weather...". I would appreciate it if someone could take a look at this, against sources, to determine what might actually have been written. Thank you, Otr500 (talk) 03:11, 30 May 2017 (UTC)
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The Question is if General Patton didn't die do to a broke neck, and he gone to the Pacific. Do you believe that we wouldn't have to dropped the two atomic Weapons. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MajorJared29 (talk • contribs) 16:46, 6 September 2017 (UTC)
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