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{{done}} - I saw your note on ANI, which brought me here. I merged your proposed content, with two exceptions. I found a better source for his executive compensation and included that in the infobox, since that is noteworthy, and also put the controversies in a political activity section, per [[WP:CRIT]], since the canceled fundraiser was actually a big deal. I remember reading about it last year. Also, FWIW, the IP user below seems to be violating [[WP:LEGAL]] by threatening you with EU legal repercussions. Others following me here can decide where to go with this. [[User:timtempleton|<b style="color:#7F007F">TimTempleton</b>]] [[User talk:timtempleton|<sup style="color:#800080">(talk)</sup>]] [[Special:Contributions/timtempleton|<sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)</sup>]] 23:17, 12 October 2017 (UTC) |
{{done}} - I saw your note on ANI, which brought me here. I merged your proposed content, with two exceptions. I found a better source for his executive compensation and included that in the infobox, since that is noteworthy, and also put the controversies in a political activity section, per [[WP:CRIT]], since the canceled fundraiser was actually a big deal. I remember reading about it last year. Also, FWIW, the IP user below seems to be violating [[WP:LEGAL]] by threatening you with EU legal repercussions. Others following me here can decide where to go with this. [[User:timtempleton|<b style="color:#7F007F">TimTempleton</b>]] [[User talk:timtempleton|<sup style="color:#800080">(talk)</sup>]] [[Special:Contributions/timtempleton|<sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)</sup>]] 23:17, 12 October 2017 (UTC) |
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:I have reverted your BOLD edits done on behalf of WWB_Too. Let us discuss this and cooperate to improve this article. EU residents are also Wikipedia users so please also comply with our legal requirements so that we can edit this article in the same way we comply with your requirements (I presume you are an American). [[Special:Contributions/101.57.250.211|101.57.250.211]] ([[User talk:101.57.250.211|talk]]) 01:56, 13 October 2017 (UTC) |
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Hello, all. On behalf of Mr. Krzanich, I have drafted an expanded and updated article for consideration, which I've saved here: '''[[User:WWB Too/Brian Krzanich]]'''. The current article is just over 3 paragraphs long, and includes some inappropriate sourcing, including a press release, a company website, and Salary.com. With my new draft, I have developed an article that fits in line with other biographical Wikipedia articles about corporate executives. The draft provides overviews of Mr. Krzanich's early life and education, career at Intel, board service, and personal life. Mr. Krzanich has confirmed the accuracy of this draft, and I've worked to make content neutral and given due weight according to reliable secondary sourcing. |
Hello, all. On behalf of Mr. Krzanich, I have drafted an expanded and updated article for consideration, which I've saved here: '''[[User:WWB Too/Brian Krzanich]]'''. The current article is just over 3 paragraphs long, and includes some inappropriate sourcing, including a press release, a company website, and Salary.com. With my new draft, I have developed an article that fits in line with other biographical Wikipedia articles about corporate executives. The draft provides overviews of Mr. Krzanich's early life and education, career at Intel, board service, and personal life. Mr. Krzanich has confirmed the accuracy of this draft, and I've worked to make content neutral and given due weight according to reliable secondary sourcing. |
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pronunciation?
Can we get a pronunciation guide for the surname? Curly Turkey ¡gobble! 11:13, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
Undue weight
The "Controversies" section is too much. First, it's singular -- controversy; only one event is referred to. Second, what is being discussed is the kind of mundane goings on every big-firm CEO deals with all the time. But third, and most important, we don't get to decide that what is being referred to constitutes a Controversy. So that in itself -- the assertion that it is controversial, to the extent that it be named "a controversy" -- would need a WP:RS. What might work is reducing the current section to a single statement, but adding a new one about the recent announcement about Fab 42?
Also, that last sentence in the lead, about attending hackathons and Best Buys. Really? I mean, who cares? That can go, surely?
I've tagged Controversies for WP:WEIGHT. Any thoughts before I hack it a bit? 2605:6000:F369:D000:6C98:6814:8DD1:FD (talk) 21:20, 10 February 2017 (UTC)
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Done - I saw your note on ANI, which brought me here. I merged your proposed content, with two exceptions. I found a better source for his executive compensation and included that in the infobox, since that is noteworthy, and also put the controversies in a political activity section, per WP:CRIT, since the canceled fundraiser was actually a big deal. I remember reading about it last year. Also, FWIW, the IP user below seems to be violating WP:LEGAL by threatening you with EU legal repercussions. Others following me here can decide where to go with this. TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 23:17, 12 October 2017 (UTC)
- I have reverted your BOLD edits done on behalf of WWB_Too. Let us discuss this and cooperate to improve this article. EU residents are also Wikipedia users so please also comply with our legal requirements so that we can edit this article in the same way we comply with your requirements (I presume you are an American). 101.57.250.211 (talk) 01:56, 13 October 2017 (UTC)
Hello, all. On behalf of Mr. Krzanich, I have drafted an expanded and updated article for consideration, which I've saved here: User:WWB Too/Brian Krzanich. The current article is just over 3 paragraphs long, and includes some inappropriate sourcing, including a press release, a company website, and Salary.com. With my new draft, I have developed an article that fits in line with other biographical Wikipedia articles about corporate executives. The draft provides overviews of Mr. Krzanich's early life and education, career at Intel, board service, and personal life. Mr. Krzanich has confirmed the accuracy of this draft, and I've worked to make content neutral and given due weight according to reliable secondary sourcing.
An important disclosure: As I stated above, I am working on behalf of Mr. Krzanich through my work with Beutler Ink. I will not edit this article directly and am seeking other editors' input and assistance in updating this article. I am willing to go through this draft section-by-section or in its entirety, depending on what others prefer. I'm also open to any feedback about article content or my process here. Cheers, WWB Too (Talk · COI) 16:13, 11 October 2017 (UTC)
- I am very interested in co-editing this article since it overlaps my personal interests, but first let me understand the situation correctly for its legal and jurisdictional issues considering that Intel is a global MNC. Intel has hired Nine Communications who have hired Beutler Inc who have hired WWB_Too to alter this article in specific ways different from the present volunteer written one. Why ? Considering this is Intel what are the payments and instructions involved at each stage ? Since you have graciously accepted disclosing your process, can you share the relevant contracts (especially those between Intel and Nine Comm.) so that we can understand them before acting for you. 101.60.253.221 (talk) 05:31, 12 October 2017 (UTC)
- Hello IP 101, I see you've decided to follow me from Talk:Robert A. Mandell. I have made the required disclosures according to WP:PAID, as always. Why this project: the current article is a very poor biography, with nearly half its content devoted to a single controversy of no lasting relevance. I look forward to working with established editors to improve this article. WWB Too (Talk · COI) 13:49, 12 October 2017 (UTC)
- Since WP:PAID is not a community approved alternative paid editing policy under ToU, it only supplements the Terms of use and WMF legal's clarifications. Mr.Krzanich is a hugely controversial individual so I disagree with much of your version and oppose its inclusion to replace the existing volunteer written content. I am again asking you to disclose all contracts in the chain between Mr. Krzanich and you as required under EU law where I ordinarily reside. I also notice that your own computer servers are in the Netherlands. Or do you suggest that only US residents edit this article to insert Mr. Krzanich's preferred version ? 101.60.149.250 (talk) 14:24, 12 October 2017 (UTC)
- WP:PAID is a policy that incorporates the ToU, and I'm in full compliance with both. I also have no servers in the Netherlends, not that you would know if I did. Meanwhile, for anyone else coming across this thread: it's been brought to my attention that someone has posted about this request to Reddit's WikiInAction board (which includes other falsehoods directed my way) and so it seems there is an attempt under way to disrupt this process. WWB Too (Talk · COI) 14:47, 12 October 2017 (UTC)
- Oh, but I can assure you that I have impeccable evidence your computer servers are in the Netherlands. WP:PAID is irrelevant because it is not an alternative paid editing policy to replace the ToU. How have you complied with the ToU's requirements for full paid editing disclosure to EU residents like myself about Intel's CEO ? I use several Intel products, I am an Intel shareholder and I have consumer rights to be fully informed. Frankly, I doubt very much that you have been engaged by Intel, directly or indirectly. So either you disclose your alleged contracts or stop making such claims ie. WP:PROVEIT. 101.56.56.69 (talk) 16:58, 12 October 2017 (UTC)
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