User talk:Berean Hunter

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Comfycozybeds/Pillowfluffyhead

So obviously a sock after that incursion into the CU/OS comments, but I was scratching my head thinking who it might be! Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 06:41, 26 September 2017 (UTC)

We get lucky every now and then. He's been short-sheeted. :)
 — Berean Hunter (talk) 11:49, 27 September 2017 (UTC)

Blocked editor possible using multiple accounts again

You have blocked this IP for disruptive editing and failure to engage earlier this month, but if you look at the article, Hurricane Chris (rapper) recent page history, it appears the editor is using more accounts to edit Wikipedia, while the edits are not too bad, but however, the edits from these IPs looks suspiciously similar to the IP who been blocked. TheAmazingPeanuts (talk) 07:46, 26 September 2017 (UTC)

Yes, that's him. I've hardblocked his /64 range for one month for block evasion. Thank you for reporting.
 — Berean Hunter (talk) 11:44, 27 September 2017 (UTC)

You're welcome, I let you know if this editor try to be clever again. TheAmazingPeanuts (talk) 19:30, 27 September 2017 (UTC)

Persistent IP-hopper you range-blocked before

I see at Special:Contributions/49.237.214.146 that in July, you blocked a range with the note "Block evasion: IP hopper falsifies refs intentionally...becoming LTA". Sadly, they're persisting. There's a misleading factoid (about GDP in bits of London) which that IP and several others keep inserting inappropriately at List of OECD regions by GDP (PPP) per capita, Economy of London and London, which is where I found it and editors discussed it at Talk:London#Harper9979's edits to economy figures in the infobox. That discussion lead to Ddstretch blocking Harper9979 indefinitely and I cleaned up the other articles.
Today 27.55.104.83 (talk · contribs · WHOIS) and 223.24.93.69 (talk · contribs · WHOIS) reinserted the factoid at List of OECD regions by GDP (PPP) per capita (it's particularly inappropriate there, in among OECD stats). They geolocate to Thailand, as do all the other IPs that have inserted it there (58.10.55.70, 58.10.55.105, 58.10.55.215, 183.88.62.169, 49.237.178.5, 49.237.154.86 and 110.171.182.13 (talk · contribs · WHOIS) which was identified as a sock at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Harper9979/Archive) and in Economy of London (110.171.182.13). London is often part-protected; most of Harper9979's edits there[1] were to add the factoid.
I don't know what to suggest. I don't really want to raise an SPI (I've been trying to spend less time on WP) and this is nearly all about IPs anyway. I guess part-protection of List of OECD regions by GDP (PPP) per capita or Economy of London might help, or maybe an edit-filter for the ref - but that all seems extreme. You'll know better. Can I leave it with you? Please? 92.19.24.9 (talk) 18:37, 3 October 2017 (UTC)

I've semi-protected the one article for two weeks after removing the likely sock edits but someone needs to get a conversation going on the talk page. That person is trying to communicate with you through edit summaries. The person I blocked (Special:Contributions/49.237.0.0/16) wasn't using edit summaries and was related to this, this and that. I'm not sure they are the same person.
 — Berean Hunter (talk) 19:22, 3 October 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for the semi-protection. I agree this doesn't seem the same person you blocked, though it might well be the same person Ddstretch blocked. Still, per AGF and your prompt, I've tried to explain on the talk page why the factoid shouldn't be inserted. I hope that helps, but maybe your action's already made the point more effectively. 92.19.24.9 (talk) 20:29, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

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Some links broken in a closed SPI case?

Hi, I saw you on the list of clerks, and tried to find anyone who could make a clerical fix. Please see Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/TEntEn4279/Archive. Though you weren't involved in this one, I was browing through and noticed that some contribution links didn't work. ([2] says that the account is not registered). In my opinion the case should be renamed. The underlying account is currently at User:ZEdzEd3168. In the first line of the archive, the account is referred to as TEntEn4279, which surely can't be right. As you can see from the bottom of the case, that should really be User:TEntEn2479, in the comment by User:Callanecc documenting the block. (In that user name, the '2' and the '4' are reversed). The page at User talk:TEntEn4279 (the incorrect name) has been redirected to User talk:ZEdzEd3168. Some of the sock tags may be mixed up also. Leaving a ping for User:GZWDer who filed the latest round of the SPI. Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 00:34, 7 October 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for pointing this out, Ed. I believe I have it sorted and the case is now here. Please let me know if you see anything that doesn't look right.
 — Berean Hunter (talk) 12:52, 7 October 2017 (UTC)

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Confused

Hi, you changed the status of Shirley shi's SPI to Checked without reporting any CU findings. DoRD had stated his CU investigation was incomplete. Did you complete the CU? Did you find anything? Cabayi (talk) 11:44, 11 October 2017 (UTC)

Given that the others are around the world, it is implicit that they might be meatpuppets but not socks unless those were open proxies. I'm not sure that there is anything for a checkuser to do with the case but since you've pinged DoRD, he can give you his opinion if he's inclined.
 — Berean Hunter (talk) 11:52, 11 October 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for explaining. I had the impression from DoRD's comment that he'd be returning to it at some point but I can see it'll need to be a judgement based on behavioural evidence rather than CU. Cheers, Cabayi (talk) 20:53, 11 October 2017 (UTC)

Suspicious username

We have here 故意滥用傀儡怎么能不永久封禁, whose username translates roughly to "How can you abuse a puppet without a permanent ban," "How can the abuse of the puppet be permanently stopped," etc. I know this may be unorthodox, but is there any way you could run a check, based on this pretty strong prima facie evidence? Thanks, GAB^gab 02:38, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

• 故意滥用傀儡怎么能不永久封禁 (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
• 这账号肯定是傀儡，不信问亚叔或兰叔 (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
• 拖到机器人存档就是胜利 (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)

• GAB, these are likely.
   — Berean Hunter (talk) 02:48, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
  • Thank you for the check, this is certainly weird stuff that I can't connect to any older master (pings aren't working, either...) Best, GAB^gab 02:58, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

• Waheedkals (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)  Likely
• Aerivo (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)  Possible

Waheedkals supported another sockmaster in an edit war as an IP just prior to creating his account. Blocked that account.
 — Berean Hunter (talk) 03:42, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

100% talk page stalker comment, but these socks are active on zhwiki. You might want to inform their local CU team about them. I've locked the first three as  Confirmed from the Meta-Wiki results. The Aerivo account is  Unlikely given the nature of the deleted contributions on idwiki, and the presence of other obviously good-faith accounts on the /64 range there. -- Ajraddatz (talk) 04:01, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

Mys 721tx, you may want to run checks on zh.wiki based on the above information.
 — Berean Hunter (talk) 04:32, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

I found the following users. I did not found Waheedkals and Aerivo among the results. Otherwise, the three suspicious ones are confirmed. -Mys_721tx (talk) 05:09, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

A46563343 (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)

GVgg"+y (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)

Vanished user 1929210 (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)

中国白磷监督局 (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)

宇宙公司老板王二麻子 (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)

拖到机器人存档就是胜利 (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)

故意滥用傀儡怎么能不永久封禁 (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)

紧闭的恋之瞳 (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)

这账号肯定是傀儡，不信问亚叔或兰叔 (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)

逆襲的小天邪鬼 (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)

🌚 (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)

I am that long-term abuser from Chinese Wikipedia. Generally, proven sockpuppets will be blocked permanently in a few hours on Chinese Wikipedia. However, to my disappointment, even I abused socks so seriously, administrators on Chinese Wikipedia didn't take any actions. I'm unhappy unless an admin can block me indefinitely and admitted that I am a vandal on Chinese projects. As for English projects or meta, they're not my target -- just an unexpected effect of SUL. By the way, "故意滥用傀儡怎么能不永久封禁" means "Why not block the user who's abusing puppets permanently". --175.167.138.56 (talk) 16:06, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

About Nfitz

Hi, sorry for dropping by, I just wanted to double check something. I agree with everything about the block except for maybe the rationale (even though you were clear on how the assessment were made). There are many reasons to block this editor, which includes cluelessness, time sink, failing to hear nor getting/disrupting with the point, yes, but NOTHERE in this case can be fairly controversial I think. I was wondering if it's better to solicit some opinions at AN before unilaterally blocking an editor that has been here for 12 years with nearly 10k edits for NOTHERE indefinitely. Just an thought, feel free to ignore. Regards, Alex Shih^Talk 03:17, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

Hi Alex, KrakatoaKatie hasn't responded in this thread yet. The ping bug is supposed to be fixed and I'm guessing she never got my first ping. That should happen first. Next, in my explanation, I state "Your device also presented itself with different credentials (you can explain that, also)." and I have gotten a second opinion from another checkuser to make sure that I interpreted the results correctly. Nfitz has not explained that at all. I'm about to head for bed as it is nearly midnight here but those two things are a good start. After those two things have happened, we can go from there.
 — Berean Hunter (talk) 03:47, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

Nope, that ping isn't listed anywhere in my notifications, so this is the first I've heard that he was blocked. That AFD was an absolute violation of his topic ban. Though I endorse the block (indefinite does not mean infinite), I agree with Alex that an AN thread for a community ban vs. unblock would be a good idea. Nfitz is wasting everybody's time.Katie^talk 19:31, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

I think Alex Shih is hoping that such a discussion would have the opposite outcome, KrakatoaKatie. Me? I would expect a series of extremely verbose and increasingly bizarre excuses, perhaps including but not limited to insomnia causing sleep during office hours, power cuts and the dog eating someone's homework. It's fair to ask for a review at AN but someone is going to have to be ready to guillotine the discussion. - Sitush (talk) 03:33, 18 October 2017 (UTC)

@Sitush: I am not sure what outcome you are implying. I just think with all the disconnect between editors and admins, a collective decision (a community ban or reduced block) would be in the best interest for everybody. Alex Shih^Talk 03:40, 18 October 2017 (UTC)

My apologies, then. I was under the impression that you were reluctant to see Nfitz censured for any potentially prolonged period and that you had similarly been so in a previous incident involving them, mainly because of their lengthy period of contributions. I can't explain why things have deteriorated, except perhaps the insomnia issue (I sympathise - look at the time I am editing now from the UK, ie: UTC+1) but there is a pattern of severe deterioration and, as you note, a long list of potential reasons to block. When the menu becomes that long, it probably doesn't matter which dish is selected. - Sitush (talk) 03:54, 18 October 2017 (UTC)

SPI (as usual)

Looking back at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/GoguryeoHistorian, I strongly suspect there might be an older master. However, since I haven't extensively dealt with ethno-nationalist sockmasters, I was curious if you might have an idea. Thanks, GAB^gab 16:40, 21 October 2017 (UTC)

• Satoshi Kondo (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki) is  Technically indistinguishable to GoguryeoHistorian

 Technically indistinguishable to WorldCreaterFighter are:

• Verakhu (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
• OrenburgNative (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
• MasterChai (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
• PeopleTaking11 (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
• WayneMacleod1 (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
• DrKoraKora (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)

 Likely to WCF:

• Lynch Kevin de León (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)

GoguryeoHistorian  Confirmed to WorldCreaterFighter who shares many of the same target articles and on the same IPs that geolocate to the same place and are not proxies. GAB, you may want to broaden that rangeblock. Look through full range to identify other addresses not blocked. Akocsg's case should be merged with these. Also, I believe that some thought should go into Kumasojin 熊襲 that may be related and I'm fairly sure that NonoHIDE98 = WorldCreaterFighter.
 — Berean Hunter (talk) 19:08, 21 October 2017 (UTC)