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For inclusion: SAP Hybris, Oracle Commerce (ex ATG/Endeca), IBM Websphere commerce, Ivis Sonneto, Elastic Path (to name a few big players, all of which can (currently) be purchased for self-hosting on premise or in cloud (many are also available as fully featured web commerce/mobile commerce SaaS platforms). |
For inclusion: SAP Hybris, Oracle Commerce (ex ATG/Endeca), IBM Websphere commerce, Ivis Sonneto, Elastic Path (to name a few big players, all of which can (currently) be purchased for self-hosting on premise or in cloud (many are also available as fully featured web commerce/mobile commerce SaaS platforms). |
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For exclusion: Salesforce Commerce Cloud (ex Demandware), Venda, Oracle Retail Open Commerce Platform Cloud Service (ex Micros), Netsuite (again to name but a few, these are all sold as pure SaaS and are holistic, having merchandising and search features which are difficult or impossible to swap out. |
For exclusion: Salesforce Commerce Cloud (ex Demandware), Venda, Oracle Retail Open Commerce Platform Cloud Service (ex Micros), Netsuite (again to name but a few), these are all sold as pure SaaS and are holistic, having merchandising and search features which are difficult or impossible to swap out. |
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Some of these platforms have Wikipedia pages, some do not (as yet). A good place to start is [[Types of e-commerce]] which has links to several and this is also a good see also to explain the background to the proposed definition. |
Some of these platforms have Wikipedia pages, some do not (as yet). A good place to start is [[Types of e-commerce]] which has links to several and this is also a good see also to explain the background to the proposed definition. |
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3dCart
Should 3dCart be in this list? 50.244.109.70 (talk) 23:11, 16 September 2014 (UTC)
Cost
I do not think it is a good idea to put the cost on the page. 1) prices change, who will keep this list up to date 2) prices for other countries will be different (exchange rates and local taxes). Wikipedia is not a US only site. --triwbe (talk) 13:02, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
- I agree with triwbe. Also I question the utility of a list filled entirely of "no"s, like the last 3 on the page. -FrankTobia (talk) 19:07, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
- I disagree. Comparison_of_Internet_forum_software_(PHP) has pricing on and this is a similar page. -Craigbrass (talk) 08:04, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
- that doesn't mean a thing WP:WAX. That article may also need changing then. --triwbe (talk) 07:06, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
- Pricing allows the user to view one of the key details if they are to use this page as a comparison. --Craigbrass (talk) 17:54, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
- Okay I'm not so sure about the pricing information anymore, but my concern about the "no"-filled tables still stands. On the other hand, I do want to laud Craigbrass for his hard work on this article. I find his diligence rather impressive. -FrankTobia (talk) 04:44, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
- I disagree. I think it shows clear areas where carts could be improved.--Craigbrass (talk) 14:23, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
Ok, I have added spaces for features to be entered into now (phew, that took a while!). I have set all to No for now. I should be able to slowly populate them in the next few weeks when I get time but feel free anyone else who wants to lend a hand! --Craigbrass (talk) 14:34, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
I think prices should stay. They may not be accurate, but at least you get a ballpark figure. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.112.229.251 (talk) 22:02, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
- Pricing information is overly promotional in nature and should be removed per WP:NOPRICES and WP:NOTADVERTISING. --Ronz (talk) 18:55, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
AgoraCart
How and why did AgoraCart get left out of this comparison? This article has been extremely helpful in comparing the software offerings listed however my webhosting service defaults to AgoraCart which has been around for quite a while yet is barely mentioned only in the comparison of web hosting control panels article. Could I get a little help here?
Is this encyclopedic?
I have had this discussion in another AFD comparing software, and I am not sure this article fits policy. The products listed are not every product made, thus indescriminate, As each new version comes out, the old data is obsoleted (comparing hardware doesn't have this issue), which flies in the face of notability isn't temporary. Listing "features" is problematic as one product may be the only one to have it, and they all have thousands of features, so how can you draw the line? If each product is notable on its own, then let it have an article. This looks too much like a shopping guide to shopping carts AND something a magazine should do, NOT an encyclopedia. Yes, similar software comparison articles exist, I just haven't gotten to them yet. I need some rationale to avoid AFD. Because this isn't properly inline cited, it also borders on original research PHARMBOY (TALK) 16:07, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
Interspire Shopping Cart already 4.0
Hello, I came across this article and noticed that Interspire Shopping Cart is still listed as 3.6 although it is currently now on version 4.0 and I see that it now has many of the features it was missing. I am not one for editing but I thought I would put the word up for anyone else that is helping maintain this page. Cheers. (70.112.241.85 (talk) 01:41, 21 October 2008 (UTC))
Magento
Hello, I've noticed that one of the (quite popular) shopping carts called Magento is not included on the list. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.61.32.135 (talk) 13:59, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
- I agree. Magento is part of the first table but not of subsequent tables. It would be nice if someone with the time to edit could add in magento informaiton UnkleFester (talk) 22:06, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
Bicyclic (talk) 19:34, 20 August 2013 (UTC) also agree. As far as I can see Magento and Opencart are major players. E.g. last Sunday I logged on to the Opencart forum and there were 1800 others logged on too! Article badly needs quality work from those who know the area well. HTH.
OFBiz
What about Apache OFBiz? I landed this page in hope to find a comparison between ofbiz and others, but no luck... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.223.99.76 (talk) 09:37, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
Free / commercial usage
There are two versions of Magento: -Community (free) and -Enterprse As seen on http://www.magentocommerce.com/product/compare most features are NOT in the free version. So is it possible to get these features (e.g. other templates) for the free version, too? Seems this wiki is speaking about Magento Enterprise? Or did -Community have features, which were removed later; is that possible with the license?! Please also send your answers to andreas2 (_at_) logic.univie.ac.at, I don't look at this page too often! thanks!
Comparison Result / Rating
Perhaps (I know, this it not a forum) but if you know these shopping carts in detail, could you tell me which is the best / are ratings meaningful?)
- nice-looking, easy to administer,
- having gifts (VIA EMAIL) or different prices for usergroups, btw BonusCards/Codes for individual users (which comes out to the same)
- and are not too complicated (I don't want to learn php in detail for that...)
- Please paste your answer also to andreas2 (_AT_) logic.univie.ac.at
thanks a lot for your answers! Andrew
Features -- in general
Many of the headings could use an explanatory note below the table [Agreed! Hear, hear!]. What is the difference between a product rating and a product review? What is a cloud search? Some are obvious and self-explanatory, but others are ambiguous or terms that apply only to one or two specific products. Whoever maintains a specific product's entry should have an understanding of what 'yes' or 'no' really means in that column, so that it's a level playing field. Should "free" be implied for "Addon" entries, if no price is given, or should it explicitly say "free Addon"?
I went through and alphabetized each table so that by default the tables come up in the same order. Please make an attempt to add new products in alphabetical order, just so it's easier for readers to find what they're looking for. Yes, I know there's a sort up/down button, but how many readers know what it is? I also removed dead links (product pages) in the row headers and inserted missing rows (products) with n/a (not available). If no one can or will update a product that is mostly "n/a", perhaps that product should be removed (is basically an advertisement)?
As noted elsewhere on this page, there are many fine products with no entry. I didn't think it right to add product names with no information at all (all "n/a"). Phil 69.206.71.141 (talk) 18:54, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
I agree with the need for explanations of the headings, whether as notes below the lists or in a location like this page for maintainers to keep consistency. Some headings are ambiguous enough that it can be uncertain whether a product's feature "is" or "is not" available, like "WYSIWYG Editor" - for which part(s) of a site?.
Whether "free" should be implied by "Addon" seems a matter of taste, but a policy should be set, published and kept. I tend to think "free Addon" is not too verbose and will allow instant comprehensibility. Gjh42 (talk) 19:12, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
International
Very please, add columns with some "international capabilities" (as could be e.g. changing currency; multi-currency; selecting other language; multi-language support; (pre)setting of TAXes (not only usa of course); changing shipping things (in some country one easy mathematical rule is the best effort compare to complex shipping gateways);).
And it would be fine to have listed other payment methods: C.O.D. and money transfers.one Jan 88.101.231.247 (talk) 11:12, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
Ubercart
What about Ubercart (module(s) of Drupal)? Jan 88.101.231.247 (talk) 11:14, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
iNETstore
I've noticed iNETstore has been left out, and should be included in the tables if this is an encyclopedia. Also, PayPal has a tremendous range of third-party shopping cart software on one of their pages. I think this may be quite useful to determine which shopping carts are authority and reputable carts and should form a basis for further inclusion into this article.
http://www.inetstore.com/ Xavier xlpt (talk) 08:07, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
PA-DSS Certification
The July 1st Phase 5 deadline is here. Most people considering an ecommerce solution are going to want to accept credit cards on their website, which requires PA-DSS certification as of the phase 5 deadline. Sure would seem this would be a critical feature to include in the list.
Background information on the Payment Application Security Mandates is available at the following URL: http://usa.visa.com/merchants/risk_management/cisp_payment_applications.html#anchor_3
The list of Validated Payment Applications is available at the following URL: https://www.pcisecuritystandards.org/security_standards/vpa/
MikeRandolph (talk) 23:37, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
VirtueMart
Hello, Thanks for the chart, extremely useful! VirtueMart is also missing from the list. It has a HUGE following as well. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Originia (talk • contribs) 05:01, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
page too long?
quote: This article may be too long to read and navigate comfortably. Please consider splitting content into sub-articles and using this article for a summary of the key points of the subject. (April 2010)
I disagree. I have no problem understanding that each table is comprehensive and on a separate aspect. Breaking the article into separate pages will make getting information more not less difficult.
--Leafgreen (talk) 20:28, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
Notability/verifiability of entries
I Wikilinked all entries in the first of the table, which shows very clearly that few of the products have Wikipedia articles. Many "comparison of..." or "list of..." articles state clearly that only entries with articles should be included, in order to make sure that the information is verifiable, and the entries are actually notable enough. Wouldn't it be reasonable to implement that here as well? WP:V is kinda sorta important, after all, and if there is no notability requirement, this kind of article can attract spam quite easily. --bonadea contributions talk 10:31, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
- Agreed. The non-notable entries should be removed. --Ronz (talk) 02:25, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
- I've gone ahead and started removing non-notable entries.
- The pricing column should be removed as well. --Ronz (talk) 18:51, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
Free/Commercial Visual Separation
I'd like to suggest perhaps highlighting free software and commercial software differently, as on the Comparison of download managers page. It helps to be able to see what is free and what is commercial at a glance. Thoughts? --NJAldwin (talk) 14:52, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
- I agree that such a highlighting would be very useful. But please keep in mind that "free" software means that only the software is free. The invement for implementation of a shop must not be underestimated. It would be lovely to have information about monthly rental cost (commercial) and estimated set-up cost (free) but fear it's too hard to get valid data as every project is different. --Hanseaticus (talk) 20:27, 28 April 2014 (UTC)
- I think that we should make a distinction between open source, free, paid, and software as a service options. Those are the major distinctions for me when choosing software. --anEffingChamp (talk) 1424, 17 June 2015 (UTC)
SEOshop is missing
SEOshop is missing now. SEOshop is used by more than 2500 shops in the benelux and is becoming a Major European player: http://www.shoppingcartnow.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by Seoshopecommerce (talk • contribs) 15:57, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
Why is there Firebird?
Why is the firebird database listed? Nothing in the Data Storage chart uses it. Might as well put Redis or MongoDB in there. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.132.80.134 (talk) 13:50, 30 August 2012 (UTC)
Cleanup of list
I'm removing the non-notable entries and the pricing information per the discussions here and here. --Ronz (talk) 17:25, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
Adding Mintox to this page
Hi guys,
I work for an online platform called Mintox (www.mintox.com). What do you guys think about adding this to the page? What is the criteria for the page?
ClueDesign (talk) 04:30, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
"Lost" content
I see a lot of content with words that link to a "start new article" page (red links).
Then, I can't understand with the complete removal of all shopping cart platforms that has not an own article. The fact they have not an exclusive article page does not mean they have not information at all (their presence in these comparison charts add enough importance to then automatically!).
If I want to know more details of OpenCart and I find a page in Wikipedia with this data:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Comparison_of_shopping_cart_software&oldid=520895839
Is a LOT of information, if compared to:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Comparison_of_shopping_cart_software&oldid=520908669
The fact that OpenCart has not it own page does not mean the information that were in the charts before the cleanup is not important!
Please, reconsider adding OpenCart (and all those e-commerce systems) to the charts again...
Thanks, — Preceding unsigned comment added by Renato Frota (talk • contribs) 09:49, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
Glaring Omissions
It seems to me that Opencart is missing from the list and Shopify needs to have it's competitors there too... those being Volusion and BigCommerce. Also need NetSuite in there (installed and SAAS).
Perhaps some of these vendors should update their own features, then this page would be an ideal source for comparison purposes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.30.59.35 (talk) 18:58, 8 March 2013 (UTC)
- Agree, there are numerous omissions. For an article to appear here, it needs to have its own article. Feel free to create an article, with reliable sources, and then list it here. Other interested people can help improve the article. However, note that for OpenCart, perhaps the most glaring omission based on its popularity and frequency of requests here, creation of an article is being personally blocked by a single administrator, User:Kww, so the community can't help there and you need to convince that individual to unblock the article creation. Greenman (talk) 23:35, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
- Greenman, please stop with the accusations. The article has been deleted five times by three separate administrators and has gone to Articles for Deletion, with the article being deleted as a result of of community discussion. I've told you that when you come back with multiple, reliable sources that discuss OpenCart directly and in detail, I will unprotect the article. Don't complain about me: go find those multiple and reliable sources that discuss OpenCart directly and in detail.—Kww(talk) 00:27, 16 June 2015 (UTC)
- User:Kww There is no accusation. Most editors are unaware that they need to approach you personally to unblock creation and that you alone decide whether the article should be created or not. And at least one editor who did get that far, supposedly with evidence, got no response from you. Mentioning the process here will help those with expertise in the topic to know how to go about contributing and allow this fairly gaping gap to be addressed. Unfortunately, with the current situation, little discussion beyond plaintive cries on related pages such as this one and the 2009 deletion decision is permitted. Greenman (talk) 00:39, 16 June 2015 (UTC)
- No one, including yourself, Greenman, has ever provided multiple reliable sources that discuss OpenCart directly and in detail. It's not me standing in the way. I assume that you have also been unable to locate multiple reliable sources that discuss OpenCart directly and in detail. If you have, point them out. Until then, your accusations that I am standing in anyone's way or failing to respond to requests are completely unwelcome.—Kww(talk) 00:56, 16 June 2015 (UTC)
- Kww but you are standing in the way of article creation. It is not an accusation, it is a simple statement of fact that you ignored Elkonabike in June 2014 when he/she claimed to have gathered information. It's a statement of fact that you alone have determined that objective measurements such as builtwith.com are "blogs" and of no relevance. There has been no discussion of this, simply unilateral decisions made by you, someone who appears to have little interest in the topic. The result is that this section is inundated with some entries that are little more than spam, but one of the more popular and widely-used ones is not here, in spite of a regular stream of requests. And you have arbitrarily created an insanely high standard for a new article to be created by forcing editors to contact you personally and you, if you reply, have assumed total veto powers on whether or not it should proceed. There's no deletion discussion, no community involvement. Simply unilateral decisions made by you. I respectively request once again that you step aside and allow the community to participate. You have no interest in this, are abusing your administrator powers and are obstructing progress. 20:24, 23 June 2015 (UTC)
- Kww Please reply to my comment above. Also, please respond in detail to the list of sources you have been provided stating the reasons for your rejection of each. If you are going to hold veto power over the creation of an article you need to at least be responsive. I will note again that OpenCart now appears to be third on the latest builtwith report of e-commerce software distribution (http://builtwith.com/ecommerce/), and that, excluding OpenCart, there are ~24 articles listed on this page. Greenman (talk) 09:32, 18 July 2015 (UTC)
- Stop acting as if I do not answer you. I reply to your comments. It's just that you appear not to understand that it is your responsibility to find sources before I undo the create protection.—Kww(talk) 14:30, 18 July 2015 (UTC)
- User:Kww replying as you did above is hardly constructive and does not address anything. What exactly is your problem with the sources you been sent? Greenman (talk) 17:37, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
- They do not address the topic of "OpenCart" directly and in detail. Most have them have been blogs and promotional pages. Certainly you can't claim I haven't said that before.—Kww(talk) 17:44, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
- User:Kww Quoting from Wikipedia:Notability_(software) page "Common sense and an awareness of historical context should be used in determining whether coverage in sources found for software is in fact reliable and significant." In the absence of either, how about some printed manuals? http://www.amazon.co.uk/ShowMe-Guides-OpenCart-User-Manual/dp/1468142364 Wikipedia filters are blocking the next two I posted, but please open (and read) the following blog to see some links. http://www.magazinehive.com/2013/09/opencart-books/ Greenman (talk) 14:16, 22 July 2015 (UTC)
- That's a promising start. If you create a short article in your user space based on sources like that, I will move it into mainspace and remove the create protection. The insult was completely unnecessary, BTW: you are the first editor to present a suitable source in the history of this article.—Kww(talk) 14:48, 22 July 2015 (UTC)
- Kww, I have created the short article at User:Greenman/OpenCart, please go ahead and move it into mainspace. Greenman (talk) 20:36, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
- Adjwilley, as I can no longer manipulate article protections, please evaluate whether his article is suitable and undo the create protection if it is.—Kww(talk) 21:25, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
- I'm not convinced that the article, if recreated, would survive another deletion discussion. My main concern is Notability which seems to be the primary reason for earlier deletions. In my opinion to be recreated you'd have to at least directly address the concerns from Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/OpenCart_(2nd_nomination). ~Adjwilley (talk) 05:00, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
- Adjwilley, since Wikipedia:Notability_(software) states that A computer program is notable if it meets any one of these criteria, one of which is It is the subject of multiple printed third-party manuals, instruction books, or reliable reviews..., and I have added three of the ten books I'm aware of, and the others are listed on this talk page, please provide a full list of your additional criteria. Greenman (talk) 09:44, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
- Adjwilley, Kww, this article has been waiting for 3 months now... Greenman (talk) 19:23, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
- Adjwilley, as I can no longer manipulate article protections, please evaluate whether his article is suitable and undo the create protection if it is.—Kww(talk) 21:25, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
- Kww, I have created the short article at User:Greenman/OpenCart, please go ahead and move it into mainspace. Greenman (talk) 20:36, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
- That's a promising start. If you create a short article in your user space based on sources like that, I will move it into mainspace and remove the create protection. The insult was completely unnecessary, BTW: you are the first editor to present a suitable source in the history of this article.—Kww(talk) 14:48, 22 July 2015 (UTC)
- User:Kww Quoting from Wikipedia:Notability_(software) page "Common sense and an awareness of historical context should be used in determining whether coverage in sources found for software is in fact reliable and significant." In the absence of either, how about some printed manuals? http://www.amazon.co.uk/ShowMe-Guides-OpenCart-User-Manual/dp/1468142364 Wikipedia filters are blocking the next two I posted, but please open (and read) the following blog to see some links. http://www.magazinehive.com/2013/09/opencart-books/ Greenman (talk) 14:16, 22 July 2015 (UTC)
- They do not address the topic of "OpenCart" directly and in detail. Most have them have been blogs and promotional pages. Certainly you can't claim I haven't said that before.—Kww(talk) 17:44, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
- User:Kww replying as you did above is hardly constructive and does not address anything. What exactly is your problem with the sources you been sent? Greenman (talk) 17:37, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
- Stop acting as if I do not answer you. I reply to your comments. It's just that you appear not to understand that it is your responsibility to find sources before I undo the create protection.—Kww(talk) 14:30, 18 July 2015 (UTC)
- No one, including yourself, Greenman, has ever provided multiple reliable sources that discuss OpenCart directly and in detail. It's not me standing in the way. I assume that you have also been unable to locate multiple reliable sources that discuss OpenCart directly and in detail. If you have, point them out. Until then, your accusations that I am standing in anyone's way or failing to respond to requests are completely unwelcome.—Kww(talk) 00:56, 16 June 2015 (UTC)
- User:Kww There is no accusation. Most editors are unaware that they need to approach you personally to unblock creation and that you alone decide whether the article should be created or not. And at least one editor who did get that far, supposedly with evidence, got no response from you. Mentioning the process here will help those with expertise in the topic to know how to go about contributing and allow this fairly gaping gap to be addressed. Unfortunately, with the current situation, little discussion beyond plaintive cries on related pages such as this one and the 2009 deletion decision is permitted. Greenman (talk) 00:39, 16 June 2015 (UTC)
- Greenman, please stop with the accusations. The article has been deleted five times by three separate administrators and has gone to Articles for Deletion, with the article being deleted as a result of of community discussion. I've told you that when you come back with multiple, reliable sources that discuss OpenCart directly and in detail, I will unprotect the article. Don't complain about me: go find those multiple and reliable sources that discuss OpenCart directly and in detail.—Kww(talk) 00:27, 16 June 2015 (UTC)
- I think I was turned off by the condescending way in which you were treating Kww and myself and then forgot about this page. I'll un-protect OpenCart and you can move the draft over from user space. Good luck. ~Awilley (talk) 02:48, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks, the article has now been created. Greenman (talk) 09:11, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
- I think I was turned off by the condescending way in which you were treating Kww and myself and then forgot about this page. I'll un-protect OpenCart and you can move the draft over from user space. Good luck. ~Awilley (talk) 02:48, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
This page is loaded with omissions
Volusion, Pinnacle Cart, 3dCart and BigCommerce are some of the biggest players in this space and none of them are listed. Volusion, Pinnacle Cart and 3dCart are probably the oldest sites within this category. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.248.6.98 (talk) 22:38, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
There are 200 shopping carts I do not think it will look good if you add all, but more carts can be added for sure. Like opencart and abantecart for instance.
- Sure, 200 would definitely be too much. But I totally agree that Volusion, BigCommerce should be added. As written in another comment here, OpenCart could be an option. ePages seems to get more and more important and merits an entry here. So do Spree (now partnering with GoDaddy) and Tictail. --Hanseaticus (talk) 20:35, 28 April 2014 (UTC)
Not an exhaustive list at all!
Absolutely I'd agree this page is missing a huge amount of info, just added in Django's Satchmo project, and Ruby on Rails Spree, I know for a fact there's maybe 4 more cart systems just for Ruby on Rails.
I think I've probably made a mess of the page with my edits, not being an experienced Wikipedia editor... Sorry! Hopefully somebody can set my ham fisted work to rights...
Would be great if this page was a thorough list of all the ecommerce packages, but it's anything but thorough at the moment.
I would expect that every shopping cart project has a bunch of people who would be perfectly willing to provide their synopsis so that an article can be written for each package, explaining the structure & features in an objective light. Perhaps the solution to the lack of articles is not deletion of the entry on the list, but instead notification of the makers of the software that they need to add a wikipedia page describing their software's capabilities.
bishopdante (talk) 09:20, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
- Agreed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hanseaticus (talk • contribs) 20:35, 28 April 2014 (UTC)
Strange Editor Preferences - Highly Noticed in Content
This maybe one of the reason why people is losing faith in Wikipedia. Wikipedia comparison only shows a selected group of "shopping cart software" that have nothing to do with industry real players. There are free carts and paid carts. What is the policy? include free carts, or not? why is shopify listed as the only that is not free? Either Wikipedia gives the opportunity to every player in the paid industry, or it will be seen as their editors have particular (mysterious) interests to add and deleted content as they please. Some time ago there was a more comprehensive list of shopping carts; both paid and free - many of them have been removed. However the current listing is useless. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.20.169.102 (talk) 21:12, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
- I can only underline this. Actually, It does not matter if an online shop software is considered as "free" or "commercial". The user must pay anyway. The question is only who gets the money. On the one hand sind, systems such as ePages or Spree are available for a monthly fee that has to be paid to a provider. Most open source systems require an agency or other experts who set up the shop for the user.--Hanseaticus (talk) 19:36, 8 May 2014 (UTC)
Improper Information displayed due to poor quality/misleading content.
This subject as it is presented is completely unreal. Wikipedia has to much to improve: Misleading information due to improper editors. In regards to this particular subject current editors should be fired. Should take example from real/serious review sites. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.51.210.143 (talk) 02:57, 1 May 2014 (UTC)
IzzoNet
IzzoNet seems dead to me, can't find anything on net though. Any ideas? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.192.69.167 (talk) 09:37, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
- It appears that the project is dead. I will update the articles. Greenman (talk) 21:28, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
New Addition - Need Opinion
I request the Opinion of contributors of this page for addition of Buildabazaar to this page. I will be able to provide any required technical information on the behalf of the company. -124.40.244.58 (talk) 06:47, 7 February 2015 (UTC)
- Buildbazaar has an existing article and so can be added here. Be bold and feel free to add the necessary information. Greenman (talk)
Merger proposal
I propose that Comparison of free software e-commerce web application frameworks be merged into this article. The content on that article is mostly a subset of what's already available here. Greenman (talk) 21:21, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
- I will go ahead with the merger at some point. Greenman (talk) 09:40, 18 July 2015 (UTC)
- I agree with you Greenman as this is the same thing.Newboyreloaded (talk) 19:24, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
- I have started on the merge. Greenman (talk) 20:37, 13 December 2015 (UTC)
Popularity
I have added a popularity section to provide some sort of objective measurement of usage. I agree with comments above that the article is quite a mess. There are numerous spammy entries, and numerous glaring omissions, so this section provides some way to prioritise. I have also added red links in this section only, since any listed in the top 10 according to popularity are probably worthy of inclusion, above many that do have articles :) Greenman (talk) 23:57, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
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AbanteCart
I think AbanteCart Software can be added to the list. Any ideas? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.109.76.34 (talk) 15:58, 3 November 2016 (UTC)
- If agreed here, I can help with posting details to sections — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zifzifzif (talk • contribs) 12:54, 4 November 2016 (UTC)
- I do not see any objections here. I will go ahead and add AbanteCart details to comparison list. Since a list is alphabetical AbanteCart will at the top. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zifzifzif (talk • contribs) 09:25, 15 November 2016 (UTC)
Search Engine Optimization Features List
This is a just terrible list. For instance, you can not answer "Meta Tagging" with a simple yes or no because there's functional difference between a cms that offers a full range of tag options from Editable Meta Descriptions to Editable Twitter Cards and one that auto creates Open Graph Tags. This section needs to be revised and slightly expanded.
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I not he owner of hikashop article . I see jigoshop content exist in the article and i think if jigoshop is in the article ( small e commerce base on Wordpress , that hikashop should also be here . Lionel7513 (talk) 12:33, 4 February 2017 (UTC)
- How does this software meet our inclusion criteria? Please answer at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hikashop. There's lots of non-notable and/or promotional stuff on Wikipedia; we haven't got around to deleting it yet. MER-C 12:37, 4 February 2017 (UTC)
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- Not done per MER-C. — JJMC89 (T·C) 22:00, 4 February 2017 (UTC)
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The information that this page is showing is completely relevant and informative but there is certain more software like shopaccino that are needed to be added to the page for the better comparison and information. Chetnnya (talk) 05:23, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. —KuyaBriBriTalk 13:37, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
VTEX
Hello all,
After 17 years, VTEX in 2017 was ranked at the Gartner Magic Quadrant for Digital Commerce Platforms and is one of the most promising eCommerce Platforms in the market. I am the VP of the company here in North America, and I am willing to guide/help or even have someone adding all the VTEX information on the charts.
Please advise me here, or contact at esberard@vtex.com on how we can do this.
Thanks in advance — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ketaros (talk • contribs) 21:03, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
Adding Shopping Cart Elite
I would like to propose to add www.shoppingcartelite.com to this comparison page. I can provide research information about it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Saasexpert (talk • contribs) 05:31, 29 May 2017 (UTC)
Would like to add Virto Commerce
I would like to add Virto Commerce on this comparison page, I have data with me. Pranav011 03:04, 12 July 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pranav011 (talk • contribs)
Missing features
Maybe, an interface for mobile devices could be included in features for comparison. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.228.20.3 (talk) 07:17, 4 November 2017 (UTC)
Proposed definition for inclusion/exclusion in list
This article would be much improved by having clearer definition for inclusion.
My proposal is if the platform is "software as a service" only and holistic (includes merchandising tools and search) then it should not be in this article (should be a similar comparison article for "ecommerce platform as a service" to cover the latter). It should also not include software which handles solely the content/merchandising aspects as this is not the cart.
The lack of this definition is partly why the lists are biased towards smaller, less expensive/free carts/ecommerce platforms, without referencing larger, enterprise class proprietary platforms.
To demonstrate omissions and criteria:
For inclusion: SAP Hybris, Oracle Commerce (ex ATG/Endeca), IBM Websphere commerce, Ivis Sonneto, Elastic Path (to name a few big players, all of which can (currently) be purchased for self-hosting on premise or in cloud (many are also available as fully featured web commerce/mobile commerce SaaS platforms).
For exclusion: Salesforce Commerce Cloud (ex Demandware), Venda, Oracle Retail Open Commerce Platform Cloud Service (ex Micros), Netsuite (again to name but a few), these are all sold as pure SaaS and are holistic, having merchandising and search features which are difficult or impossible to swap out.
Some of these platforms have Wikipedia pages, some do not (as yet). A good place to start is Types of e-commerce which has links to several and this is also a good see also to explain the background to the proposed definition.
The article also needs a reference out to Comparison of Search Engine article as complementary. --194.72.50.58 (talk) 13:38, 18 December 2017 (UTC)