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"Marshal Tito Street at Skopje. (26 July 1963, the Yugoslav People's Army support stuff for earthquake)" - "stuff" reads wrong but it's not obvious what this is meant to mean; "staff" ? Can someone with knowledge of the photo fix this? Thanks [[User:Dorset100|Dorset100]] ([[User talk:Dorset100|talk]]) 13:12, 20 December 2017 (UTC) |
"Marshal Tito Street at Skopje. (26 July 1963, the Yugoslav People's Army support stuff for earthquake)" - "stuff" reads wrong but it's not obvious what this is meant to mean; "staff" ? Can someone with knowledge of the photo fix this? Thanks [[User:Dorset100|Dorset100]] ([[User talk:Dorset100|talk]]) 13:12, 20 December 2017 (UTC) |
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== I lived in that Yugoslavia == |
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This article looks like it is taken from my then history book at an elementary school. Every single "fact" is the exact copy. However, Yugoslavia was at least a very oppressive country, if not a simple mental institution that was producing its offsprings in order to continue the madness on and on into the future. Now, you tell me that a copied article about the leader who was called in the Constitution itself "the son of all people" and other legal nonsenses like "president for life" has any credibility. He would have loved to read this article, I am sure about that, as would millions who still believe that those times were heaven on Earth, refusing to see what devilish devise that country was. |
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Every fact written here should be taken with a (huge) grain of salt. It is unlikely that the truth is going to be revealed anytime soon about what was really happening and what is the connection between then-times and now-times. |
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Instead of writing on top of the article: "historical facts disputed due to 50 years of constant propaganda and brainwashing in the mentioned country", here is my small contribution for those uninitiated. |
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I am sad to see that the madness continues and that wikipedia or any -edia is not capable of digging through history in a much more accurate manner. I know what they told you to believe in. I am just saying that you do not have to. |
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Controversy in facts
In the early life section, I see the following information, quote: "Josip Broz was born on 7 May 1892 [...] He was the seventh or eighth child of Franjo Broz and Marija née Javeršek, his parents having already lost a number of children in early infancy. [...] his parents had been married on 21 January 1891." If his parents were married only in 1891 and Tito was born already in 1892, that would leave hardly any room for other (legitimate) children before him. Cohabitation without marriage and extramarital children were far from a usual option in those times, especially among catholics.
Reponsbility for massacres and war crimes
Why is there no section on his role in war crimes and atrocities? [see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tezno_massacre#Forced_marches_and_executions] Can you imagine an article on Hitler without reference to the holocaust?122.59.213.223 (talk) 00:45, 3 December 2017 (UTC)
- It's mentioned in the World War II section of the article as "atrocities after the repatriations of Bleiburg". BytEfLUSh | Talk! 01:33, 3 December 2017 (UTC)
Caption of Photo
"Marshal Tito Street at Skopje. (26 July 1963, the Yugoslav People's Army support stuff for earthquake)" - "stuff" reads wrong but it's not obvious what this is meant to mean; "staff" ? Can someone with knowledge of the photo fix this? Thanks Dorset100 (talk) 13:12, 20 December 2017 (UTC)
I lived in that Yugoslavia
This article looks like it is taken from my then history book at an elementary school. Every single "fact" is the exact copy. However, Yugoslavia was at least a very oppressive country, if not a simple mental institution that was producing its offsprings in order to continue the madness on and on into the future. Now, you tell me that a copied article about the leader who was called in the Constitution itself "the son of all people" and other legal nonsenses like "president for life" has any credibility. He would have loved to read this article, I am sure about that, as would millions who still believe that those times were heaven on Earth, refusing to see what devilish devise that country was.
Every fact written here should be taken with a (huge) grain of salt. It is unlikely that the truth is going to be revealed anytime soon about what was really happening and what is the connection between then-times and now-times.
Instead of writing on top of the article: "historical facts disputed due to 50 years of constant propaganda and brainwashing in the mentioned country", here is my small contribution for those uninitiated.
I am sad to see that the madness continues and that wikipedia or any -edia is not capable of digging through history in a much more accurate manner. I know what they told you to believe in. I am just saying that you do not have to.
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