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Page 203 of Ref. [10] says nothing about the Second Conference of the OUN-B. This should be corrected or removed, if correction is impossible. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/156.57.82.134|156.57.82.134]] ([[User talk:156.57.82.134#top|talk]]) 16:01, 27 February 2018 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== more recent estimates of the number of Poles killed == |
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"The Institute of National Remembrance estimates that between 74,000 and 104,000 Poles were killed" this number is long obsolete. Most likely, 100,000 Poles were killed in Volhynia, Eastern Galicia, Polesie, and the Lublin region. This number is supported by Grzegorz Motyka and IPN. |
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http://volhyniamassacre.eu/zw2/history/179,The-Effects-of-the-Volhynian-Massacres.html |
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"Some extreme assessments of the number of Polish people as high as 300,000" |
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This number is exaggerated by the railways. This number is based on an old source from 1990. In my opinion, this should be removed. |
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Article shows only Polish side of the story.
The article heavily depends on Polish sources, some of then in Polish language, and doesn't even pretend to be interested in other side of the story - Ukrainian. Tens of thousands of Ukrainian civilians died too from Polish hands, but who cares, right?
Antoni Macierewicz interview
Antoni Macierewicz, Poland's Defense Minister in „Minęła 20” program stated that massacre was orchestrated by Russians and NKVD and Ukrainians are not to blame. "According to Macierewicz restoration of the Ukrainian state in the interest of Polish. He added that the real enemy were the Russians, who "used" Ukrainian nationalists to organize genocide. This is reminiscent of the Ukrainian narrative, according to which the NKVD is responsible for Volyn."
Background section
Background section starts with sentence that Galicia and Volhynia were formed as disputed territories... This is based on whose definition?? And how exactly territories are formed in order to exist as "disputed territories"? Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 21:22, 16 March 2017 (UTC)
- Casimir the Great was the first King of Poland who become the Ruthenian Lord and the Galicia with Volhynia did not become Galicia and Volhynia, but rather Ruthenian Voivodeship meaning voivodeship of Rus (undisputedly). Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 21:25, 16 March 2017 (UTC)
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Wrong citation
In the beginning of the article, the phrase "the Ukrainian Insurgent Army, whose goal as specified at the Second Conference of the OUN-B on 17–23 February 1943 (or March 1943 according to other sources) was to purge all non-Ukrainians from the future Ukrainian state.[10]" refers to the book by Henryk Komański and Szczepan Siekierka, Ludobójstwo dokonane przez nacjonalistów ukraińskich na Polakach w województwie tarnopolskim w latach 1939–1946 (2006), at pg. 203.
Page 203 of Ref. [10] says nothing about the Second Conference of the OUN-B. This should be corrected or removed, if correction is impossible. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 156.57.82.134 (talk) 16:01, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
more recent estimates of the number of Poles killed
"The Institute of National Remembrance estimates that between 74,000 and 104,000 Poles were killed" this number is long obsolete. Most likely, 100,000 Poles were killed in Volhynia, Eastern Galicia, Polesie, and the Lublin region. This number is supported by Grzegorz Motyka and IPN. http://volhyniamassacre.eu/zw2/history/179,The-Effects-of-the-Volhynian-Massacres.html
"Some extreme assessments of the number of Polish people as high as 300,000" This number is exaggerated by the railways. This number is based on an old source from 1990. In my opinion, this should be removed.
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