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Let's talk here about this thread.
Any suggestions or something else to edit? Write your comments here! — Preceding unsigned comment added by AlboBlood (talk • contribs) 09:14, 29 June 2006
The results?
I think there's something wrong with the "unbeatable" Kosovos match results.
http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kosovos_herrlandslag_i_fotboll
In comparison with the Swedish article the results are whole different. I doubt that the Swedish article is more likely to be credible... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.148.207.129 (talk) 16:00, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
Clean up
This needs a serious overhaul, I'm trying, but any help is apprecaited.--Tiresais 16:31, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
Shefki Kuqi wouldn't be able to play for Kosovo, he is capped over 40 times for Finland, making him ineligable. Martin Le Roy 15:30, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
- Then remove him, be bold :b (he's removed anyway)--Tiresais 17:22, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
- Many of the players listed appear to have been capped by Albania and are over 21 years old - meaning they could not switch allegiance under the standard FIFA rules. If they had been capped for Yugoslavia or Serbia & Montenegro, I think they could switch allegiance to Kosovo. If these Albania caps can be confirmed, I think the players should be removed. Jogurney 17:19, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
In international football, players are normally committed to play for a specific national team to the exclusion of all others once they play in all or part of any match recognised as a full international by FIFA. However, an exception is made in cases where one or more newly-independent states are created out of a former state. Based on current FIFA rules, a player will be eligible to play for Kosovo, even if he had previously represented Serbia, if at least one of the following statements about him is true:
- He was born in Kosovo.
- At least one of his parents and/or at least one of his grandparents was born in Kosovo.
- He has lived in Kosovo continuously for any two-year period.
I can't see that someone who has represented Albania could switch allegiance to Kosovo however.
taken from Fifa's website Grunners (talk) 17:37, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
- So that means that the Kuqi brothers are also eligible?
- What I was going to ask too: have the players in the "recent call-up's" list played for Kosovo already or have they just been called up without playing? I'm asking cause on the page of the Albania national football team it says, for example, that Lorik Cana (among others) has said that he didn't want to play for Kosovo and will continue to play for Albania. If all of this is true, then to me such a list of players who have only been called up and have not played (yet), doesn't make much sense, at least all other National team pages (that I've looked at) don't have such a list. Anyways, I'm just asking cause I'm curious. UmutK (talk) 07:23, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
- Just checked some other list's and apparently I was wrong, there are players with 0 caps in their respective country's "recent call-up's"-list, so either forget what I've said or share your opinions on why it should or should not have such players in it.UmutK (talk) 07:32, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
Biggest win
The footnoted article refers to the match as being in Monaco, but this page states that the game was in France. Where was it actually played? Paploo 18:24, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
The match was in Cap d'Ail, just across the border in FRANCE, where Monaco are forced to play as they are not entitled to use AS Monaco's home ground.
Does anybody have any news about the Kosovo upcoming matches? They seem a bit unusual to say the least. Why would Kosovo play Burundi in Algeria, for example? And why would they play a city (Jakarta)? and not Indonesia? 155.245.34.250 (talk) 20:42, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
Kosovo vs. Brasil (olympic squad)
There is a report that the Kosovo team will play the Olympic Brasilian national squad on July 26. The game will take place in Switzerland. [1]. --DaQuirin (talk) 16:02, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
- There isn't a recap on the Brazil vs. Kosovo game, meaning it wasn't ever played. But I'll keep looking for sources. :D Cheers TheAustinMan (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 18:40, 30 July 2010 (UTC).
Kosovo must play in the qualification matches!
I know, they are not a member of FIFA or UEFA, but they must play in the 2014 World Cup & in the EURO 2016 Qualification matches... Böri (talk) 10:31, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
This is not a place for putting political opinions Bevo74 (talk) 10:38, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
The UK recognised Kosovo. Böri (talk) 10:50, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
If they join UEFA or FIFA that would mean they could enter,it is not down to the UK Bevo74 (talk) 10:58, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
Squad section
Someone has added a squad to the article, however the squad is unsourced, the Kosovo Football Association doesn´t mention it, and I am affraid that it is just OR and a random pick of players who someone would like to see playing in a Kosovo NT. I´ll wait a day to see if someone presents evidence that those players are really part of some Kosovo national team, if not, the entire section will be deleted. FkpCascais (talk) 16:29, 8 November 2013 (UTC)
- OK, no one cared to source the squad or even mention if the Kosovar FA picked these players. As I haven´t seen anything about Kosovo FA calling any squad recently, I will remove the squad section which seems totally made up. FkpCascais (talk) 18:26, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
- That looks good to me. bobrayner (talk) 19:49, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
Flags
Why is flag of Republic of Kosovo same as the Albanian flag in this article?
- @195.252.66.205: It's about the time that they played matches (at infobox). Eni.Sukthi.Durres (talk) 21:02, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
Biggest loss
If the biggest loss (5 goals) was an official game, then why include the biggest unofficial loss (2 goals) Joeykai (talk) 21:39, 9 December 2014 (UTC)
- @Joeykai: As you see at my edit I added an new option Permitted by FIFA and I left official as "not yet". Because saying official it's mean to have fully recognised by uefa and fifa. In other side unofficial mean not permitted by uefa and fifa and even recognised, thank you. Eni.Sukthi.Durres (talk) 22:06, 9 December 2014 (UTC)
- Allowed or disallowed by FIFA, that shouldn't matter. As long as they are matches against another NT, they are all Kosovo's games. I would get rid of the unofficial loss. --Bunjaktorollak (talk) 23:31, 9 December 2014 (UTC)
- @Bunjaktorollak: no pal you can't do it. It's important for others to know the time before and after Kosov was permitted to play a friendly match with other Fifa members. Eni.Sukthi.Durres (talk) 12:59, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
- Ok, but if the biggest loss overall was an official game, then why list any other loss?Joeykai (talk) 19:42, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
- @Joeykai: Just because it was not permitted by Fifa.Eni.Sukthi.Durres (talk) 20:30, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
Are matches sanctioned by FIFA?
Even though negotiations with FIFA and Serbia mean that teams from other nations may now play Kosovar teams without fear of reprisal from FIFA, does that mean FIFA sanctions the matches? My thought is no, because Kosovo is not a FIFA member. If one peruses FIFA's website to find results of matches, one will not find any record of Kosovo, or even of Martinique, who qualified for the final round of the 2014 CONCACAF Women's Championship which also served as the qualification tournament for the 2015 FIFA Women's World Cup. If FIFA has no records of Kosovo playing in any matches, then surely the matches were not sanctioned by FIFA. — Jkudlick tcs 16:08, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
New team against Burkina Faso
Link. Invited Bernard Berisha and Valmir Sulejmani. PoshteMorriKuq (talk) 13:34, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
@PoshteMorriKuq: I saw early this news also at Panorama Sport but was little late cause I personally should had go to work, but let me update the Squad right after finish the job between the time 23:30 - 00:00, thank you bro. Eni.Sukthi.Durres (talk) 15:36, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks! I wanted to do it myself, but I often make too many mistakes. Maestro Spinelloccio (talk) 01:50, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
First game vs Albania in 1993
I found here a different date and a similar but different line-up. FkpCascais (talk) 04:17, 4 September 2015 (UTC)
@FkpCascais: Very good but it's some confused, plus it's just a forum and I think is not reliable source. The matter it's to find the missing full names such as Nushi, Osmani, Idrizi, you what you think? Eni.Sukthi.Durres (talk) 16:27, 4 September 2015 (UTC)
- Yes, I know Eni that it is just a forum and we don't know how certain the information is, but we can have it here as possibility and search more. I am searching for the missing names from the line-up, that is how I got to this forum. Could it be that Kosovo and Albania played two games, one after another? I will try to confirm if there is any trouth in that game mentioned in the forum, or not. FkpCascais (talk) 18:44, 4 September 2015 (UTC)
@FkpCascais: Thank you, I wish you a good work for that. Despite that however more important it's to find the match stats. of it against Monaco won 7-1, it's only one which is missing currently. Eni.Sukthi.Durres (talk) 20:52, 4 September 2015 (UTC)
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Edit war over flags for coaches
I see there is some edit-warring over the flags indicating nationality of the coaches as Kosovo_national_football_team#Managerial_history. As far as I know and see it as common practice in most notable club and national team articles, the flags foor coaches should indicate the nationality of the coach at time he was coaching the team. Not birth, not present-day, but at time he was there coaching. Agreed? FkpCascais (talk) 01:27, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
- Agreed, it's the same with nations. if a country changes it's flag any flags used in articles for competitions or whatever occurring prior to that change use the flag from that time. Fenix down (talk) 06:02, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
- I am glad this discussion has started, but I dont agree. The flags are different because if a nation changes flags, it is still the same nation but just a new flag to be used. About people, it is a case of identity. If I were born in Barcelona, I would be Spanish and even if Catalonia (Barcelona area currently discussing independence) would break out from Spain, I would still be Spanish and should be indicated as such. It is my country that I was born into, so why should I not be displayed as such? Qed237 (talk) 09:16, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
- Sorry QED, do you agree or not, your example seems to indicate that you stick with the original flag which is what is being argued above. We shouldn't be changing flags for historic managers to the current flag because they were not of that nationality at the time of their tenure. Fenix down (talk) 09:55, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
- @Fenix down: Sorry if I was unclear (English is not my native language) and if this is still unclear let me know and I will explain as good as I can. I want flag from time of birth. If a person is born in Yugoslavia, he is Yugoslavian (is that how you say it?). Just like if I was born in Barcelona, Spain, I am Spanish (not catalan if Catalunya would become independent). Your nationality is what you were born into, and that is what flags in front of BLP's should represent. Qed237 (talk) 12:01, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
- I've changed them, also following FIFA nationality guidelines, so they're correct to the period they were coach. Not sure why the SFR Yugoslavia flag is used to represent someone's nationality at the present. VEOonefive 09:50, 16 June 2016 (UTC)
- @Fenix down: Sorry if I was unclear (English is not my native language) and if this is still unclear let me know and I will explain as good as I can. I want flag from time of birth. If a person is born in Yugoslavia, he is Yugoslavian (is that how you say it?). Just like if I was born in Barcelona, Spain, I am Spanish (not catalan if Catalunya would become independent). Your nationality is what you were born into, and that is what flags in front of BLP's should represent. Qed237 (talk) 12:01, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
- Sorry QED, do you agree or not, your example seems to indicate that you stick with the original flag which is what is being argued above. We shouldn't be changing flags for historic managers to the current flag because they were not of that nationality at the time of their tenure. Fenix down (talk) 09:55, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
- I am glad this discussion has started, but I dont agree. The flags are different because if a nation changes flags, it is still the same nation but just a new flag to be used. About people, it is a case of identity. If I were born in Barcelona, I would be Spanish and even if Catalonia (Barcelona area currently discussing independence) would break out from Spain, I would still be Spanish and should be indicated as such. It is my country that I was born into, so why should I not be displayed as such? Qed237 (talk) 09:16, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
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