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Attention doogh lovers: Use this template to tell everyone how you love doogh!--Zereshk 10:28, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
Carbonated
I'm confused. The article states that doogh is "similar to [..] Ayran, although the latter is not carbonated." Does that mean that doogh is carbonated? While a later section addresses this point, it should really be mentioned sooner. -- Ec5618 19:53, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
- Doogh is carbonated, I'm about 99% sure of that huntersquid 20:15, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
doogh can be carbonated or not traditional doogh is not carbonated at all!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.200.96.190 (talk) 15:16, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
Dogh is not carbonated in Afghanistan
Dogh is very common in Afghanistan and common in the western half of Pakistan, and is NEVER carbonated. In the eastern half of Pakistan it turns into lassi and is either sweet or salty, I'm not sure of the difference between salty lassi and traditional dogh, but it tastes very different.
Afghanistani dogh is quote sour, frequently made from sheep/goat milk and is never carbonated or sweetened. I live in the viscinity and have never had sweetened dogh (except in Karachi, southeast Pakistan) or carbonated dogh except in Iran (one sip was quote enough). Dogh however is a daily ration in Balochistan and most of Afghanistan except the most urban areas. It is frequently poured from sheepskin containers carried by shepherds. I suspect an alcoholic content in dogh since it makes you sleepy so fast it knocks a guest out in 5 minutes regardless of nationality or previous exposure to dogh. Its always pronounced dogh in central afghanistan and Balochistan and never doogh. I suspect this is an Iranian pronunciation.
- this drink is still commonly drunk among the historical urban Persians (Tajiks) and not just the rural areas. Personally, I grew up on this drink and my family have been urbanites for several generations. This is a national drink there as well and this articles fails to even mention it (and many other articles make it appear that the people within modern Afghanistan have little (or at least less than accepted historical reality) connections toward with the people of present-day Iran, which is at best a POV and worse more akin to propaganda as it reimagines historical realities among these historical Persian populations. We can do better, team. Thanks and kind regards. Jamaas9 (talk) 22:05, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
Dough is the same as ayran
dough (persian) or ayran (turkish) can be carbonated, this is done either naturally or by adding CO2 like other beverages. I am from Tabriz and I am completely familiar with both Turkish and Persian languages.
doogh in afghanistan
dogh is a very popular drink in afghanistan too, and I can't understand why it's not mentioned. also, in afghanistan it can be carbonated, but usually is not, and sometimes its served with cucumber inside.
Carbonated?
Doogh is and is not carbonated. It depends. As sold in the streets of Iran, they are carbonated. Like Doogh of Abali. But if you step into a good classy restaurant in Iran, or anywhere else, doogh is not carbonated and is homemade.
In homes, people often make and drink the homemade uncarbonated version, unless they buy it from the grocery shop or something.
This also applies to outside Iran. Here in Texas, they sell the carbonated version in "Ali Baba's Mediterranean food store" (the biggest Iranian food store in town). But if you go to "Shiraz Persian Cuisine" restaurant, youll be served the uncarbonated version.--Zereshk 01:14, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
- Uncarbonated doogh is okay but once carbonated it becomes a truly amazing beverage and quite unique. Carbonated doogh makes the world a better place. Wow! No really. Wow! -- Derek Ross | Talk 06:51, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
it is written that Doogh is naturally carbonated. I think it is not true. in Iran there are bottled doogh which are carbonated but there are also doogh which are not. A home made doogh is is not carbonated. My conclusion is therefore Ayran= Doogh. --Babakexorramdin (talk) 20:53, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
Interesting, but in the article doogh, it reads so. Could you make necessary changes in doogh? Thanks. --Chapultepec (talk) 20:55, 19 November 2007 (UTC) I would like to do, but I have not written that there. I just copy and paste our communcations in that page and let's see whether the original author changes it. If not I will edit that page myself. --Babakexorramdin (talk) 21:00, 19 November 2007 (UTC) Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Ayran"
Mastaow?
Can somebody please tell me this is the Mastaow in Kurdish language or not? Chaldean 01:57, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
YES, Its the same. Mastaow and doogh are the same thing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.137.204.107 (talk) 18:45, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
- Actually they are not, there is a difference between Mastaw and Do (doogh), this article reffers to Do and not Mastaw
Local doogh of Isfahan?
isn't the image in the article with the caption "local doogh of isfahan" picturing "ash-e doogh/mast". it can't be doogh.--Xashaiar (talk) 02:09, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
- also the image with the caption "doogh with garlic" is showing some kind of dalal mast. that is the image is, though a relative of doogh, showing yogurt with garlic. it can not be doogh.--Xashaiar (talk) 22:30, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
- I think the image labelled "Doogh with Garlic" is actually a factory-made "Yoghurt with Shallot [Mâst-Musir]", so perhaps better be presented under Yoghurt.--Bee (talk) 18:33, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
Proposed merge
What about we merge it in Ayran? As it is pointed above, the doogh CAN be carbonated or not, sa can the Ayran. They really ARE the same thing. OR we do something else: We specify under this article the carbonated version, and under Ayran the non carbonated one.
Cheers,
--Emir Ali Enç (talk) 00:39, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
- I agree, it should be merge. What is all this nonsense about wording, Doogh = Ayran = Tan. They are all the same product, regardless of origin or way of preparation. It is like saying bolognese sauce is not ragu. --Vitilsky (talk) 17:57, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
- I disagree. Doogh is Persian but Ayran is Turkish. While these drinks may be similar or perhaps even identical, there doesn't seem to be any reason to merge them especially if this gives preference to the name the drink has in a specific region. Is there a generic term for this type of minted yogurt beverage? Fleetham (talk) 02:00, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
- i agree with merging all are the same product with different names .like water su and eau ,water is water doesnt matter what you call it!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.200.96.190 (talk) 15:21, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
- I agree. The fact that these drinks come from different regions is not sufficient for keeping two separate articles, especially in the case when these are neighbouring regions, such that one can be sure that these drinks have a common historical origin. As an example, Quark (dairy product) describes different quark versions from Slavic and German-speaking countries. --Off-shell (talk) 12:29, 2 July 2016 (UTC)
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Ayran
It's pretty obvious that Ayran is the far more common name than Doogh. The merge should have been to Ayran instead of to this article. Gune (talk) 01:07, 21 March 2018 (UTC)
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