User talk:Sumanuil

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October 2017

Hello, I'm Zackmann08. Thank you for your recent contributions to Ginkgo gardneri. I noticed that when you added the image to the infobox, you added it as a thumbnail. In the future, please do not use thumbnails when adding images to an infobox (see WP:INFOBOXIMAGE). What does this mean? Well in the infobox, when you specify the image you wish to use, instead of doing it like this:

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I apologize. I've never added images to Wikipedia itself (I have for other wikis with somewhat different interfaces) and I wasn't exactly sure what I was doing. Thank you for the help. Sumanuil (talk) 05:14, 28 October 2017 (UTC)

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A word

Hello, and welcome, especially to the biology side of things. I happened just to see your user page message, and would like to say that while there is quite wide freedom afforded to editors about how they organise their user pages, and while we can appreciate that styles and humour may vary, the current text comes across as strikingly unfriendly, and I'd urge you to modify it. All the best, Chiswick Chap (talk) 08:18, 6 December 2017 (UTC)

I changed it, but I'd like to ask what you have against ze Frensh peas. Sumanuil (talk) 17:50, 6 December 2017 (UTC)

Edit reversal on Dire Wolf article

I saw your recent edit (with the edit summary 'Both were wrong') regarding the era when this species was around. The article has displayed this as '125,000–10,000 years ago' for quite some time, even with the reference later in the article to fossils dated at 9440ybp being the youngest to have yet been found. Because the article was so heavily reviewed back when it was named a 'Featured Article' in 2017 -- and all of those editors seem to have approved of the rough dates (that is, 125k & 10k), my sense is that the consensus is that this sentence and its date range are intended to provide approximations and not something as precise as '9,440 years ago' which could be read to imply that the Dire Wolf is believed to have gone extinct exactly 9440 years ago, or in 7422BC, a factoid that is not accurate and oughtn't be implied. The edit by Mariomassone immediately prior to your edit was simply reversing the vandalism that had just been made by anonymous user 2600:1:f501:7817:3adc:9ee0:650e:738f -- an anonymous troll that has been vandalizing scores of articles about extinct animals for at least the last month or two. My friendly suggestion here is to reverse your edit, which would return the article to the highly vetted standard quo. What do you think? Kiwikiu (talk) 05:18, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

Your logic is inescapable. However, I had so much on my plate bringing Dire wolf up to WP:GA status, and then WP:FA status, that I simply overlooked this small item. My preference would be for the article to display the more accurate figure of 9,440 YBP, as our new friend has it. The reason is because some experts regard the Pleistocene coming to a close not at 13,000 years ago but at 10,000 years ago. However, with the last Dire wolf dated to 9,440 then ALL parties agree that this is the early Holocene.

Sumanuil: A better edit summary might have been "As per Kurten 1980, Anderson 1984". Nobody can argue - nor take offence - with that. Regards, William Harris • (talk) • 09:43, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

Kiwikiu, William Harris, I apologize. I tend to be rather blunt, and my edit summaries sometimes reflect my own feelings better than they do the changes I made. No offense is intended. Frankly, either '10,000' or '9,440' would be acceptable in my book. Sumanuil (talk) 16:53, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

No offence taken, Kiwikiu! The advice on the edit summary (above) was for Sumanuil to consider. There are some wolf-like predators on Wikipedia that you do not want to enrage - my collaborator Mr. Massone is one of these. Happy editing! William Harris • (talk) • 22:23, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

William Harris, I was the one apologizing. Note the signature. This is MY talk page, after all.Sumanuil (talk) 22:34, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

You are correct, my oversight. This demonstrates how the 10,000 YBP slipped past me! Regards, William Harris • (talk) • 04:16, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

In that case, I imagine it would make sense to change the date range in the taxonomy box on the right so that it also says "125,000 - 9,440 years ago" -- yes? Kiwikiu (talk) 04:52, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

That would be a good idea, Kiwikiu - please initiate. Then nobody can assume that C. dirus went extinct at the end of the Late Pleistocene. William Harris • (talk) • 07:57, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

Bonobo

Hi, I reverted your edit here as the edits by Maczkopeti were actually per the guidelines of Help:IPA/Conventions for English#Stress — ^{oi yeah nah mate} amazingJUSSO ... [ɡəˈdæɪ̯]! 05:14, 10 June 2018 (UTC)

It chopped off a syllable in the second possible pronounciation, as I said in my edit summary. It's 'bonobo' not 'bono'. Sumanuil (talk) 18:28, 10 June 2018 (UTC)

The chopped-off part is really the same last syllable of the first pronunciation. There was a prefix marker; it's per {{IPAc-en}}: As necessary, use a hyphen - to indicate omitted syllables. Pinging @Kbb2:. — ^{oi yeah nah mate} amazingJUSSO ... [ɡəˈdæɪ̯]! 22:11, 10 June 2018 (UTC)

AmazingJus is right. Kbb2 (ex. Mr KEBAB) (talk) 22:12, 10 June 2018 (UTC)

Although on second thought, the choice is arbitrary. We're omitting just one syllable. Kbb2 (ex. Mr KEBAB) (talk) 22:20, 10 June 2018 (UTC)

However you can agree on removing syllable breaks? — ^{oi yeah nah mate} amazingJUSSO ... [ɡəˈdæɪ̯]! 22:40, 10 June 2018 (UTC)

@AmazingJus: Sure, they're superfluous. Kbb2 (ex. Mr KEBAB) (talk) 22:42, 10 June 2018 (UTC)

It's unnecessarily confusing, and if you lot are going to have a conversation without me, please have it somewhere other than my talk page. Also, there's nothing in Help:IPA/Conventions for English#Stress about removing syllables. Sumanuil (talk) 22:59, 10 June 2018 (UTC)

It's not confusing. Replacing omitted syllables with ⟨-⟩ is perfectly standard. Kbb2 (ex. Mr KEBAB) (talk) 23:07, 10 June 2018 (UTC)

It may be standard, but why omit them in the first place? And it would be confusing to anyone who's not a linguist or at least familar with IPA, which is most of the people who might read the article. Sumanuil (talk) 23:10, 10 June 2018 (UTC)

To make transcriptions shorter. Now, in this particular case it might make little sense (we'd omit just one syllable), but it does make sense if there are two or more syllables that are exactly the same in the previous transcription. Kbb2 (ex. Mr KEBAB) (talk) 23:12, 10 June 2018 (UTC)

I understand. In most cases, it might make sense. Just not here. Here it just seems odd. Sumanuil (talk) 23:15, 10 June 2018 (UTC)

Upper Paleolithic

See my talk page and the comment about incarnations ending badly. And their talk page. Doug Weller talk 07:39, 18 June 2018 (UTC)

I apologize if I got in your way. I was simply trying to clean up after a certain other user, but I assumed they had a reason to remove most of that content. Sumanuil (talk) 17:39, 18 June 2018 (UTC)

BCE etc.

Sorry for that and thanks for the correction: I meant to leave it at BCE but was editing when tired at 23:44 (and that's the excuse I'm sticking to). Britmax (talk) 09:28, 23 June 2018 (UTC)

ghost pipe

Hey! You reverted an edit on Monotropa uniflora I made about it's traditional uses. You cited WP:MEDRS as the reason for the revert. I objectively stated the traditional use of the plant. Cultural history of a plant is important information regardless of if the cultures use has been scientifically validated. 70% of our scientifically validated medications come from or are derived from plant sources. These compounds were isolated from and tested due to the traditional knowledge of the peoples who used the plants. There are thousands of compounds in plants that have a historical use that have yet to be explored in a controlled setting. It's important to know how plants were traditionally used when wanting to find compounds that will be useful in treating illness.