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== Nomination of [[:Xian (abbreviation)]] for deletion ==
<div class="floatleft" style="margin-bottom:0">[[File:Ambox warning orange.svg|48px|alt=|link=]]</div>A discussion is taking place as to whether the article '''[[:Xian (abbreviation)]]''' is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to [[Wikipedia:List of policies and guidelines|Wikipedia's policies and guidelines]] or whether it should be [[Wikipedia:Deletion policy|deleted]].

The article will be discussed at [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Xian (abbreviation)]] until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

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Regarding the banned account of User:Doedoeneoneo

Hi PamD, I am a Taiwanese Wikimedian and I want to let you know that I met User:Doedoeneoneo in person on August. I then want to come to help her clear some concerns from the English community. I have investigated and written here regarding the community's concern. Please feel free to participate. Thank you in advance. --Liang (WMTW) (talk) 02:23, 5 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Adel/adoul

Dear Pam thank you for removing my addition to the disambiguation page Adel/adoul. The creation of a separate page for this entry appears to me to be overkill, especially as there are so few English-language references to Adel/Adoul. Basically what you are saying is that no entries may be made on a disambiguation page unless there is a pre-existing wikipedia page for the lemma. This appears to me to be somewhat perverse, especially as it does not correspond to my own experience of Wikipedia. May I suggest you are being slightly over-zealous? Everybody got to be somewhere! (talk) 16:28, 11 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Augusta2: Yes, that's what I'm saying: see WP:DAB and WP:MOSDAB. Everything in a disambiguation page should be a link to a wikipedia page or a section in one, where the reader can find out about the topic mentioned. Disambiguation pages do not contain information and references. I'm curious about your experience of Wikipedia which contradicts this - could you show me the disambiguation page entries you're thinking of? PamD 18:05, 11 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Augusta2: Thanks for creating a well-sourced stub at Adel (official). Looks good. I've tidied up both it and the dab page entry. But neither of your sources used the term "Adel". Have you got a source for that? Otherwise perhaps the article needs to be at Adoul? We need a redirect from that term anyway - will do it when not on phone. PamD 06:03, 12 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Yes it's confusing. As you will know from user page I work as a translator. Adel is the word used in official translations in Morocco. It is of course a transcription of an Arabic word. There are many variations it seems, including adl, adil, adoul. Wiktionary say Adoul is the plural of Adel/Adil. I think there is considerable confusion. Let us keep it at Adel for the time being please because of the correspondence with the Arabic name meaning "just/honest". Now that the article is up and once I've linked to the corresponding French page, it may well be that other more expert persons will suggest amendments rooted in a greater familiarity with the term. Everybody got to be somewhere! (talk) 13:10, 12 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Further to the above I've tried linking to the French wiki page "Droit musulman", in which the term "adel" appears, but there is a message I don't understand concerning Sharia that prevents the link being established and tells me to link to another page! Can you help perhaps? Everybody got to be somewhere! (talk) 13:22, 12 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
The French wikipedia article fr:Adel includes the redirect fr:Adel (droit) which leads to fr:Droit musulman which someone has decide is the equivalent of the English Wikipedia's Sources of sharia. I don't think we can link this new English Adel (official) to anything in French Wikipedia as the linking only applies to whole articles, not sections.
It would be great if you could find an online document using the "official translation" as you mention, to establish the term "Adel" as the English term: at present neither of your sources mention it, and I've found a source which shows both words being used, but in French only. A Google News search on "Adel Morocco -Football" didn't find anything useful in the first 15 pages! Please add something to show that "Adel" is used in English. The French article asserts "L'adel (pluriel en arabe : adoul) est le notaire de droit musulman", but its source uses "Adoul" and "Adouls", so doesn't help. Thanks, PamD 14:39, 12 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Found a reference in Moroccan consular advice in English to Adel functions. This is now ref. 4. Everybody got to be somewhere! (talk) 15:49, 12 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Big thanks for coming on board so quickly. I knew we needed to have an article before Radio 4 picked up the story- BLPs and Women in Red are not my usual territory.--ClemRutter (talk) 12:01, 13 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@ClemRutter: I picked her up as a mal-sorted stub in Category:Stubs, and one about a woman (my priority criteria for stub-sorting, as well as the letter "P") - and heard about her on R4 later. Glad to help. PamD 14:38, 13 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Sorry

I deleted a source at David Morris (Conservative politician) accidentally. Proxima Centauri (talk) 16:48, 19 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

NPR Newsletter No.14 21 October 2018

Chart of the New Pages Patrol backlog for the past 6 months.

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As of 21 October 2018, there are 3650 unreviewed articles and the backlog now stretches back 51 days.

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The Signpost: 28 October 2018

Nomination of Xian (abbreviation) for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Xian (abbreviation) is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Xian (abbreviation) until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. JohnBlackburnewordsdeeds 17:10, 1 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]