User talk:EdJohnston

Media coverage question

• Draft:Boundless (technology company) (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hello again EdJohnston and Beland, I really appreciate both of your help on the draft article Draft:Boundless (technology company) (prior discussion here), including your caution about approving articles about relatively young companies. In case this is helpful as context on the media coverage, I'd like to note that far from "any local tech startup" gets covered in Washington Business (which covers all companies statewide) or Geekwire (which covers companies nationally, with an emphasis on the Pacific Northwest region). The NBC News story and others that cite Boundless's impact assessment of the "public charge rule" stemmed from the fact that this was novel research, not from a press release. I'm eager to understand what type of coverage you believe would more firmly establish Boundless's notability, as I respect your opinion and experience. For instance, last week there was a new profile of the company in Fast Company, which is a national publication, and it included some facts that I added to the draft article. Does that help meet the standard you're looking for? Messier6 (talk) 21:56, 6 November 2018 (UTC)

These recent changes are helpful but they mostly show Boundless making use of their own business data to comment on US immigration topics. My opinion is still the same as the one I expressed on this talk thread and the other one. EdJohnston (talk) 23:05, 6 November 2018 (UTC)

Thanks EdJohnston -- I continue to appreciate your help in understanding how to make the best contributions to Wikipedia. I'd expected that the recent Fast Company article would be more relevant, since it focuses almost exclusively on the company's practical successes (e.g. "On Boundless’s website, about 7,000 people a month begin their applications, and so far the company has a 100% success rate once applicants reach the interview stage of the process"). In particular, this article (among others) helps address your original questions about notability: "Have they started? Have they helped people actually get their visas approved? Have the company's practical successes been the subject of comment in reliable sources?" I believe that as of now, the answer to all of these questions is yes. Please let me know your thoughts! As part of my learning process I may reach out to some other immigration-focused editors for more feedback as well. Thanks again. Messier6 (talk) 20:15, 9 November 2018 (UTC)

The 7,000 people a month is surely the company's self-report, and not something checked by the reporter. 100% success rate is good, but how many people have so far reached the interview stage? And the articles published so far usually have the reporter talking to Xiao Wang himself and hardly anyone else. (Though I think this one may have talked to some other founders or investors). EdJohnston (talk) 23:34, 9 November 2018 (UTC)

Greetings from the Arbcom Recruitment Kittens!

No catfights, we promise!

We've got some former arbs in the mix for WP:ACE2018, but we need more fresh blood bright-eyed and bushy-tailed first-time candidates! Don't you want to be on the other side of the fence in ARCA threads? It's greener, you know... Opabinia regalis (talk) 06:37, 10 November 2018 (UTC)

Thanks! But not this time. EdJohnston (talk) 15:13, 14 November 2018 (UTC)

IPs

Hi, EdJohnston. Sorry to disturb you, but i'm here to get your attention to this matter. I'm afraid User BDMKK is still doing PUSH POV in the talk page of the article about Jair Bolsonaro. I tracked their IPs and they are editing from the same region of from the same country, using similar language. I think he is trying to use different IPs in order to give an impression of multiple opinions to support the push pov and disruptive editing that got him the blocked in the first place. He has done this in portuguese wikipedia too, if i'm not mistaken and i think he is trying to wrongfully influence this discussion as well by faking diologues. He has been known for evading blocks. I'd like to know what to do, or maybe you can take some action. Awaiting on your answer. Thanks! Coltsfan (talk) 02:30, 11 November 2018 (UTC)

I looked over the Jair Bolsonaro article and talk page, but the problem seems to be under control. The IP you linked above, 49.181.226.226 (talk · contribs), made only a single edit. If there is more of a pattern and you can list some related IPs, let me know. The article itself is still semiprotected and a checkuser has blocked BDMKK (talk · contribs). EdJohnston (talk) 15:10, 14 November 2018 (UTC)

World War Two Talk page

Hi, EdJohnston. Six years ago you were an administrator working in this topic area. We met in the context of one or two users who were at war, and eventually banned from Wikipedia. I recall your good sense and objectivity. I recently joined discussions at the World War Two Talk page. I have just suspended my involvement there for the foreseeable future. Please review the whole page. All the best, -Chumchum7 (talk) 04:31, 12 November 2018 (UTC)

You've been vague, perhaps in the effort not to bias my response. But this leaves me too little to go on. EdJohnston (talk) 16:55, 14 November 2018 (UTC)

Problematic user

Hello EdJohnston, I am bringing to your attention User:BrownstoneKnockn, an apparently longstanding editor who twice made BLP vandalism edits to an article of a controversial political figure.[1][2] When I warned him the first time, he claimed it was not intentional and implied he wouldn't do it again, before doing it again a few days later. I recommend some sort of action be taken based on his behavior. --1990'sguy (talk) 23:46, 12 November 2018 (UTC)

I have watchlisted User talk:BrownstoneKnockn. If he makes any more bad edits at the Steve King article a block for vandalism might be considered. Thanks for your note, EdJohnston (talk) 15:26, 14 November 2018 (UTC)

Request

Hi, since you had addressed my last report regarding Stefka Bulgaria, would you mind give us your insight in it? Saff V. (talk) 06:22, 14 November 2018 (UTC)

Also, You gave me some advice as to this RfC about 'violent' that I opened on 14 October. Would you explain about " a more targeted rewording that would enlist support from the other side " and how should I conduct it? Regards!Saff V. (talk) 12:48, 14 November 2018 (UTC)

You could add a comment at the bottom of the RfC saying that you propose to list it at WP:AN/RFC for formal closure. The way the RfC stands now, opinion seems to favor removing 'violent' though a more careful study might or might not see a consensus. Another possibility is to qualify the 'violent overthrow' language to indicate *when* they were making those kinds of statements. Perhaps they haven't used the words 'violent overthrow' in any recent pronouncements. EdJohnston (talk) 17:17, 14 November 2018 (UTC)

Editing Northern Cyprus

• Northern Cyprus (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

"This page is protected so that only users with extended confirmed rights can make edits." is displayed on the Northern Cyprus page.

May I be granted these rights to make the following edit:

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The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.
Edit Summary: I'd like to expand it to include a more robust description of events, where applicable, and change suggestive or manipulative language i.e. subtle POV pushing, by including said events. Edit: Northern Cyprus (Turkish: Kuzey Kıbrıs), officially the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus (TRNC; Turkish: Kuzey Kıbrıs Türk Cumhuriyeti), is a de facto state that comprises the northeastern portion of the island of Cyprus. Internationally recognised only by Turkey, Northern Cyprus is considered by the Republic of Cyprus and the rest of the international community to be a part of the Republic of Cyprus. Northern Cyprus and Turkey do not recognise these claims. changed to reflect the fact it is a state with limited recognition, as is the Republic of Cyprus. See: List of states with limited recognition Northern Cyprus extends from the tip of the Karpass Peninsula in the northeast to Morphou Bay, Cape Kormakitis and its westernmost point, the Kokkina exclave in the west. Its southernmost point is the village of Louroujina. A buffer zone under the control of the United Nations stretches between Northern Cyprus and the rest of the island and divides Nicosia, the island's largest city and capital of both sides. A coup d'état in 1974, orchestrated by EOKA-B and the Greek military junta as part of an attempt to annex the island to Greece and displace the Turkish Cypriot diaspora, prompted the Turkish invasion of Cyprus. This resulted in an end to the intercommunal violence, the collapse of the Greek military junta, the eviction of much of the north's Greek Cypriot population, the flight of Turkish Cypriots from the south, and the partitioning of the island. The Turkish Federated State of North Cyprus was proclaimed in 1975. Eight years after this, after espousing human rights and a desire to live side-by-side with the Greek Cypriots, and citing the legitimacy granted to the Greek Cypriot government by the international community as the only legitimate government of the Republic of Cyprus, as well as their being sidelined from it, and their own right to security and self determination, the North made a unilateral declaration of independence in 1983. This was rejected by the UN and the Republic of Cyprus. Due to the subsequent embargo and lack of international recognition thereof, Northern Cyprus is heavily dependent on Turkey for economic, political and military support. changed to reflect on the coup's orchestrators and purpose, Turkey's response to that, what that immediately resulted in, the formation of the Turkish Federated State of North Cyprus (1975) as the first direct response, the precursor and cited cause(s) of the following declaration of independence (1983), the subsequent lack of recognition from the Republic of Cyprus and the international community, the subsequent embargo that was placed on Northern Cyprus which explains why it is heavily dependent on Turkey for economic, political and military support. Attempts to reach a solution to the Cyprus dispute have been unsuccessful. The most recent attempt, the Annan Plan, was approved by Turkish Cypriots but declined by Greek Cypriots. The Turkish Army maintains a large force in Northern Cyprus. While its presence is supported and approved by the TRNC government, where it is seen as necessary to ensure its security, the Republic of Cyprus and the international community regard it as an occupation force, and its presence has been denounced in several United Nations Security Council resolutions. changed to include the most recent example of attempts to reach a solution, which also provides background to the following sentence, and added an often cited reason for the TRNC's support for Turkey's military presence. Also see: the cited purpose of the Declaration of Independence of the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus, which emphasises "independence, freedom, and sovereignty of Turkish Cypriots, and realizing self-determination of the nation". Thank you. Nargothronde (talk) 03:34, 16 November 2018 (UTC) References

Why not make this proposal at Talk:Northern Cyprus and see if you can persuade the other editors. You actually are extended confirmed so you have the ability to edit the article directly. But getting some feedback first would be safer. You may find that this is a controversial topic. You have already mentioned 'suggestive or manipulative language' and 'subtle POV pushing' in this proposal, which may indicate you are expecting some bad behavior from others. These differences ought to be worked out frankly using good references. When you post on the talk page you should identify whatever 'subtle POV pushing' you are criticizing. Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 04:09, 16 November 2018 (UTC)

Thank you EdJohnston. I'll post something similar on the Talk Page then and see what reactions and feedback I can get. Any feedback or criticism will be 100% welcome. Nargothronde (talk) 04:17, 16 November 2018 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for pinging me at User talk:Zackmann08#Closure of your ANI complaint. I had not yet even seen the comment user Zackmann08 made regarding me at Infobox River talk! If you had any advice to offer trying to resolve the situation there, or at the request I made on how to proceed with a dispute resolution, I would appreciate it. --papageno (talk) 05:40, 16 November 2018 (UTC)

I became aware of the Geobox issue by seeing a complaint at WP:AN3 on 2 November. When User:Ivanvector closed this report by protecting the article he said "If Geobox is deprecated then work together to replace it with infobox. Work together to preserve info in the geobox which can't be displayed in infobox, if that's what needs to happen. Both of you are experienced enough here that you should be able to work together on this. If not, well, you know what happens next." This seems to be the best advice to all parties. Later I closed a related ANI complaint. Regarding how to go from here, somebody should consider documenting the issues where people still disagree. It appears the matter has been going for years in various forums. EdJohnston (talk) 14:29, 16 November 2018 (UTC)

(responding to ping) Part of the problem seems to be that the various infoboxes and geoboxes are not directly parameter-compatible, so there's a ton of work to do each time one is replaced with the other. I really don't know anything about the history of the two templates or the disputes over which to use, but I think that's a good place to start. Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 14:33, 16 November 2018 (UTC)

Newbie

Ζάχος77 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Hi EdJohnston. Ζάχος77 is a newbie who has made several unconstructive edits. It would be of great help if you keep an eye on the editor. Cheers, Ktrimi991 (talk) 17:08, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

I left a note for the editor. Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 17:48, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

More trouble at the Farouk page

• Nukleon (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
• Hexesikon (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Dear EdJohnston, thank you for your patience, which is much appreciated. I'm afraid that Nukleon has gotten around the block imposed on him by creating another account, User:Hexesikon. Just check out the edit summary left by Hexesikon, who only appeared tonight, on the Farouk page, which accused me of having him blocked instead of trying to talk out with him. Given that Hexesikon is only concerned with the Farouk article, deleting everything I put into that article, and that edit summary, I think is is pretty clear that Nukleon is Hexesikon. I've asked for sock puppet investigation, but I'm not certain it is entirely necessary, given what Hexesikon has just written. I've just leaving this here to let you know that Nukleon is trying to evade the 48 hour block. Thank you for your time and help, which are much appreciated! Cheers!--A.S. Brown 06:41, 23 November 2018 (UTC)  

Now blocked. Thanks for your report. EdJohnston (talk) 14:30, 23 November 2018 (UTC)

Talkback

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New Account

Hi, i recently created the account, and unfortunately forgot the password. Is there a way to either delete that account so i can change the username or to move all content, contribs and commons pictures to this account. Also i would like to say that i have been receiving a hard time from another editor because he believes I am another account he had issues with. according to said editor, this other account is not blocked but a sockpuppet investigation was open. MTA Bus enthusiast (talk) 01:29, 25 November 2018 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) @MTA Bus enthusiast: User accounts can not be deleted, you can reset your password here, if you did not attach an email address to your account, then you'll have to create a new account. - FlightTime (open channel) 01:35, 25 November 2018 (UTC)