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You can be far-right in german politics and still totally in line with the law, constitution and within the democratic norms of politics. Neo-Nazism is not. |
You can be far-right in german politics and still totally in line with the law, constitution and within the democratic norms of politics. Neo-Nazism is not. |
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"Far-right extremist politics in Germany" would be the more appropriate title to describe a party like the NPD.[[Special:Contributions/80.131.52.188|80.131.52.188]] ([[User talk:80.131.52.188|talk]]) 02:35, 17 February 2018 (UTC) |
"Far-right extremist politics in Germany" would be the more appropriate title to describe a party like the NPD.[[Special:Contributions/80.131.52.188|80.131.52.188]] ([[User talk:80.131.52.188|talk]]) 02:35, 17 February 2018 (UTC) |
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What's more, the [[Nazi]] party was not "far-right" - there were very few and very weak right-wing ideals held by them. In fact, they had as many far-left as they did far-right such that no validly reputable, objective historian can conclude one way or the other. It is dangerously polarizing in an already discordant society, outright false to call the National SOCIALIST German Workers Party a product of the "right", and doing so fully displays Wikipedia's loosening grasp of objectivity. This page needs to be either amended or removed as libelous misinformation. |
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Whitewash!
Having just read this article, I think it is an utter whitewash of the actual situation in Germany regarding Nazi/fascist elements within today's Germany. Let's face it: the Nazis didn't just 'go away' with the end of WWII. Yes, they lost–but after the war in W. Germany most Nazis carried on holding key top level positions in both the public and private sectors. As we can see now with the PEGIDA mass demonstrations throughout Germany, the deep latent Aryan racism remains like a tap-root. This article doesn't even mention current events with the massive growing extreme right sector in Germany, just like in Ukraine with the Bandera nationalists. Criticism is sorely needed of this most biased tosh Wiki entry that reads more like an advert than an honest assessment that is needed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:1028:8D1C:741E:2854:EFC3:A9D4:6EA4 (talk) 19:36, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
- Ok, do you have actual insight into Germany? Because I live there and honestly, I think your view is very biased. Of course the nazis didn't vanish into thin air when the war ended. It happened that Nazis were able to stay in their positions. There's tons of literature about that. But what about the "latent Aryan racism"? Is there any proof that this is a thing over here? I doubt that.
- PEGIDA is more of a local or regional thing in Dresden and Eastern Germany (I'm serious, look it up), even though people should be wary.Where is the massive growing extreme right sector? The only thing that I could name is the political party "AfD". Those are some kind of centre-right to right-wing, not far-right per se.
- You are welcome to back up your claims with reliable evidence and introduce changes. I believe the article needs restructuring and updates, though. I just don't agree with what you claim to be facts. 85.216.10.199 (talk) 22:45, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
PEGIDA movement looks to be anti-Islam but not anti-foreigner. People with turkish roots like Akif Princci and the kurdish background woman Leyla Bilge have spoken there and being cheered by the public.80.131.52.188 (talk) 02:39, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
Division
I believe what this article desperately needs is the division between the old right (i.e. Neonazism) and the New Right, as the two are often political enemies and differ in many ideological points. NsMn (talk) 20:47, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
the page is a mess
The article, which never seems to have been good, is outdated, wishy-washy (see above comment, needs definitions), with extremely poor sourcing and bad writing. the sections have become useless, as stuff is added arbitrarily.--Wuerzele (talk) 03:47, 6 January 2015 (UTC)
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Term missleading
You can be far-right in german politics and still totally in line with the law, constitution and within the democratic norms of politics. Neo-Nazism is not. "Far-right extremist politics in Germany" would be the more appropriate title to describe a party like the NPD.80.131.52.188 (talk) 02:35, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
What's more, the Nazi party was not "far-right" - there were very few and very weak right-wing ideals held by them. In fact, they had as many far-left as they did far-right such that no validly reputable, objective historian can conclude one way or the other. It is dangerously polarizing in an already discordant society, outright false to call the National SOCIALIST German Workers Party a product of the "right", and doing so fully displays Wikipedia's loosening grasp of objectivity. This page needs to be either amended or removed as libelous misinformation. MarkoOhNo (talk) 14:47, 25 April 2019 (UTC)