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# {{nay}} Please provide references from reliable, [[WP:SECONDARY]] sources for the claims in this section of the request. The sources provided in request #3, with phrases such as {{tq|"The palpable passion and energy at Journey Chicago radiated throughout the gathering. Teachers traveled from Illinois, Indiana, Michigan, Minnesota, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. Some even traveled from as far as Florida, Georgia, South Carolina and California to participate in the highly-anticipated Journey regional teacher conference"}}<ref>{{cite press release |last1=Steinberg |first1=Adam J. |last2=Goodrich |first2=Johanna |title=Over 500 Teachers Gather in Chicago for VIPKid’s High-Energy “Journey” Conference |url=https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20190312005951/en/500-Teachers-Gather-Chicago-VIPKid%E2%80%99s-High-Energy-%E2%80%9CJourney%E2%80%9D |website=www.businesswire.com |language=en |date=12 March 2019}}</ref> are not journalistic-quality references. |
# {{nay}} Please provide references from reliable, [[WP:SECONDARY]] sources for the claims in this section of the request. The sources provided in request #3, with phrases such as {{tq|"The palpable passion and energy at Journey Chicago radiated throughout the gathering. Teachers traveled from Illinois, Indiana, Michigan, Minnesota, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. Some even traveled from as far as Florida, Georgia, South Carolina and California to participate in the highly-anticipated Journey regional teacher conference"}}<ref>{{cite press release |last1=Steinberg |first1=Adam J. |last2=Goodrich |first2=Johanna |title=Over 500 Teachers Gather in Chicago for VIPKid’s High-Energy “Journey” Conference |url=https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20190312005951/en/500-Teachers-Gather-Chicago-VIPKid%E2%80%99s-High-Energy-%E2%80%9CJourney%E2%80%9D |website=www.businesswire.com |language=en |date=12 March 2019}}</ref> are not journalistic-quality references. |
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Regards, <span style="font-size:75%;border:2px solid red;border-radius:50px;font-color:#00008b">[[User talk:Spintendo|<span style="color:#00008b;"> <b>Spintendo</b> </span>]]</span> 00:27, 22 August 2019 (UTC) |
Regards, <span style="font-size:75%;border:2px solid red;border-radius:50px;font-color:#00008b">[[User talk:Spintendo|<span style="color:#00008b;"> <b>Spintendo</b> </span>]]</span> 00:27, 22 August 2019 (UTC) |
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:{{Ping|Spintendo}} Thanks for your assistance and feedback. I agree with your assessment regarding edit #1, I've proposed an updated description which will refocus on the article subject in an informative manner. As for edit #3 I've updated the references and simplified the content. Please see Edit Request 8/23/19. [[User:Dzstoyanov|Dzstoyanov]] ([[User talk:Dzstoyanov|talk]]) 23:06, 23 August 2019 (UTC) |
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==Request Edit 8/23/19== |
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Founded in 2013 and formally launched in 2014 by [[Cindy Mi]], VIPKid has become China’s largest online education technology startup.<ref>{{Cite web|url=http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/a/201806/21/WS5b2b2cfaa3103349141dd864.html|title=VIPKID becomes world's biggest online education startup - Chinadaily.com.cn|last=刘小卓|website=www.chinadaily.com.cn|access-date=2019-08-14}}</ref> As of June 2019, the VIPKid platform connects more than 600,000 paying students with more than 70,000 teachers in the United States and Canada.<ref>{{Cite news|url=https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/02/business/new-work-summit-excerpts.html|title=Excerpts From the New Work Summit|date=2019-03-02|work=The New York Times|access-date=2019-08-14|language=en-US|issn=0362-4331}}</ref><ref>{{Cite web|url=https://apnews.com/Business%20Wire/7909cdbd72e941c1b842ec25406e0582|title=VIPKid Joins BrandZ’s Top 100 Most Valuable Chinese Brands Five Years After Its Founding|date=2019-05-06|website=AP NEWS|access-date=2019-08-14}}</ref> VIPKid’s online-classroom portal enables students ages 4 to 15 to receive 25-minute English language lessons from fluent English-speaking teachers.<ref>{{Cite web|url=https://www.roadaffair.com/ultimate-guide-teaching-english-with-vipkid/|title=The Ultimate Guide to Teaching English with VIPKID|date=2019-01-23|website=Road Affair|language=en-US|access-date=2019-08-14}}</ref><ref>{{Cite web|url=http://blog.vipkid.com.cn/why-does-vipkid-use-common-core/|title=Why does VIPKID use Common Core|last=VIPKID|date=2017-12-28|website=VIPKID Teacher Blog|language=en-US|access-date=2019-08-14}}</ref> |
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'''Explanation of issue:''' Previous description is more focused on a person (the founder) than the company. Updated description focuses on the article subject specifically. |
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'''References supporting change:''' Included within the above. |
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'''Events''' |
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VIPKid hosts a regional conference for teachers called “Journey” where teachers come together to share their experience and learn new insights about online teaching.<ref>{{Cite web|url=http://news3lv.com/news/local/journey-conference-brings-teachers-from-around-the-nation-to-las-vegas-valley|title=Journey Conference brings teachers from around the nation to Las Vegas valley|last=Miller|first=Cody|date=2019-07-13|website=KSNV|access-date=2019-08-23}}</ref> Workshops are offered on a range of topics including Chinese culture, calligraphy, online connections with students and building digital presence.<ref>{{Cite web|url=http://news3lv.com/news/local/journey-conference-brings-teachers-from-around-the-nation-to-las-vegas-valley|title=Journey Conference brings teachers from around the nation to Las Vegas valley|last=Miller|first=Cody|date=2019-07-13|website=KSNV|access-date=2019-08-23}}</ref> |
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Past Journey conferences include: |
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* Las Vegas - Hosted in Las Vegas on July 13, 2019. Five hundred teachers were in attendance from thirty-nine states to share experiences and advice about how to improve their online teaching skills.<ref>{{Cite web|url=http://news3lv.com/news/local/journey-conference-brings-teachers-from-around-the-nation-to-las-vegas-valley|title=Journey Conference brings teachers from around the nation to Las Vegas valley|last=Miller|first=Cody|date=2019-07-13|website=KSNV|access-date=2019-08-23}}</ref> |
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* Chicago, IL - Hosted on March 9, 2019. |
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* Orlando, FL - Hosted on September 29, 2018. |
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* Dallas, TX - Hosted on August 8, 2018. Four hundred teachers were in attendance and former First Lady [[Laura Bush]] spoke at the conference.<ref>{{Cite web|url=https://www.cnbc.com/2018/11/28/cnbc-interview-with-cindy-mi-founder--ceo-vipkid-.html|title=CNBC Interview with Cindy Mi, Founder & CEO, VIPKid|date=2018-11-28|website=CNBC|language=en|access-date=2019-08-23}}</ref> |
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* Salt Lake City, UT - On March 10, 2019. Nearly three hundred teachers were in attendance for VIPKID’s first ever regional conference.<ref>{{Cite web|url=https://www.businessinsider.com/inside-vipkid-cindy-mi-and-3-billion-startups-teacher-community-2018-8|title=A 35-year-old who dropped out of high school had a vision of a utopian future for China, the US, and the world — and it's led her to the forefront of a tech startup worth $3 billion|last=Jacobs|first=Harrison|website=Business Insider|access-date=2019-08-23}}</ref> |
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'''Explanation of issue:''' Content and references updated to meet Wiki guidelines following rejection of last proposal. |
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'''References supporting change: Included within the above. |
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[[User:Dzstoyanov|Dzstoyanov]] ([[User talk:Dzstoyanov|talk]]) 23:06, 23 August 2019 (UTC) |
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Request Edit #1
Information to be added or removed: "Born in Heibei" should be changed to "Born in Hebei"
Explanation of issue: Misspelling
done.--SamHolt6 (talk) 01:54, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
Request Edit #2
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Information to be added or removed: "employing native English speakers" and "60,000 teachers employed" should be changed to "contracting native English speakers" and "60,000 teachers contracted"
Explanation of issue: VIPKid teachers are "hourly-paid independent contractors" (see reference)
References supporting change: https://www.edsurge.com/news/2018-04-27-chinese-tutoring-startup-vipkid-could-be-on-its-way-to-a-500-million-raise
Dzstoyanov (talk) 01:32, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
done.--SamHolt6 (talk) 01:59, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
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Information to be added or removed: "Her first business venture, a brick-and-mortar tutoring service she started in 2000, failed."
Explanation of issue: This statement is not backed up by the provided reference, which in fact gives a revenue number of greater than $30M USD. Hardly the definition of a failed business. :)
References supporting change: https://www.businessinsider.com/inside-vipkid-cindy-mi-and-3-billion-startups-teacher-community-2018-8, already included as Ref #1.
I declare a conflict of interest as it relates to this article. I am an employee of VIPKid, and am requesting this edit during paid time. I am also an administrator and former WMF staff member. -Philippe (talk) 21:55, 22 April 2019 (UTC)
@Philippe: done. SamHolt6 (talk) 22:13, 22 April 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you. :) . -Philippe (talk) 09:18, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
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Request 1
Information to be added or removed: Append subsection after first paragraph ending in "These experiences inspired Mi to establish an online-focused English teaching service." Description Section Subheader: Business Model Teachers give lessons using a proprietary platform and in-house developed curriculum in real-time, one-on-one, from the location of their choice during hours of their choice and when the student demand is the greatest, after school and other activities in China. All teachers on VIPKid are independent contractors and are paid service fees per class.[1][2] Students and their parents sign up for classes and select the teachers that they want to work with. Parents of the students are closely involved in the process. Parents scroll through teacher profiles, book sessions, and leave and read reviews from other parents.[3] During every sixth class, there is a student evaluation where a different teacher reviews content learned during the first five classes to monitor student progress.[4] Explanation of issue: Current article doesn't provide a clear description of company's product and services. References supporting change: See embedded references. Dzstoyanov (talk) 23:49, 21 August 2019 (UTC) Request 2
Information to be added or removed: Move remaining description section beginning with "Following its inception, VIPKid began to develop a curriculum that would involve pairing English speaking tutors with Chinese students ranging in age from 4 to 12." and ending with "As of November 2018, the company reported having 60,000 teachers contracted to teach 500,000 students.[7]" under a new section as shown below.
References supporting change: Not applicable. Dzstoyanov (talk) 23:49, 21 August 2019 (UTC) Request 3
Information to be added or removed: Add the following text as a new Events section following the History section. Section Header: Events Events Section Subheader: Journey VIPKid holds a regional conference for teachers called “Journey” where teachers come together to share their experience and learn new insights about online teaching. Optional workshops are hosted on a wide range of topics including the student experience, tips and tricks from veteran teachers, using technology in the classroom and Chinese culture.[5] Past Journey conferences include:
Explanation of issue: Adding substance and depth to the subject article. These activities are heavily publicized with high attendance and receive substantial coverage at a national and local level. References supporting change: See embedded references. References
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Reply 21-AUG-2019
Edit request partially implemented
- Please note that the numbers below correspond to the numbers in the edit requests, which were moved to the Edit request section above.
The information provided in this part of the request resembles that which might be found in a college's catalog of courses, where in depth descriptions of course offerings are delineated. It is not the purpose of Wikipedia to reproduce such items.
The requested text was moved to a new History section.
Please provide references from reliable, WP:SECONDARY sources for the claims in this section of the request. The sources provided in request #3, with phrases such as
"The palpable passion and energy at Journey Chicago radiated throughout the gathering. Teachers traveled from Illinois, Indiana, Michigan, Minnesota, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. Some even traveled from as far as Florida, Georgia, South Carolina and California to participate in the highly-anticipated Journey regional teacher conference"
[1] are not journalistic-quality references.
Regards, Spintendo 00:27, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
- @Spintendo: Thanks for your assistance and feedback. I agree with your assessment regarding edit #1, I've proposed an updated description which will refocus on the article subject in an informative manner. As for edit #3 I've updated the references and simplified the content. Please see Edit Request 8/23/19. Dzstoyanov (talk) 23:06, 23 August 2019 (UTC)
References
- ^ Steinberg, Adam J.; Goodrich, Johanna (12 March 2019). "Over 500 Teachers Gather in Chicago for VIPKid's High-Energy "Journey" Conference". www.businesswire.com (Press release).
Request Edit 8/23/19
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Information to be added or removed: Update current description section text with the following:
Founded in 2013 and formally launched in 2014 by Cindy Mi, VIPKid has become China’s largest online education technology startup.[1] As of June 2019, the VIPKid platform connects more than 600,000 paying students with more than 70,000 teachers in the United States and Canada.[2][3] VIPKid’s online-classroom portal enables students ages 4 to 15 to receive 25-minute English language lessons from fluent English-speaking teachers.[4][5]
Explanation of issue: Previous description is more focused on a person (the founder) than the company. Updated description focuses on the article subject specifically.
References supporting change: Included within the above.
Information to be added or removed: Add events section and description of the event as shown below.
Events
VIPKid hosts a regional conference for teachers called “Journey” where teachers come together to share their experience and learn new insights about online teaching.[6] Workshops are offered on a range of topics including Chinese culture, calligraphy, online connections with students and building digital presence.[7]
Past Journey conferences include:
- Las Vegas - Hosted in Las Vegas on July 13, 2019. Five hundred teachers were in attendance from thirty-nine states to share experiences and advice about how to improve their online teaching skills.[8]
- Chicago, IL - Hosted on March 9, 2019.
- Orlando, FL - Hosted on September 29, 2018.
- Dallas, TX - Hosted on August 8, 2018. Four hundred teachers were in attendance and former First Lady Laura Bush spoke at the conference.[9]
- Salt Lake City, UT - On March 10, 2019. Nearly three hundred teachers were in attendance for VIPKID’s first ever regional conference.[10]
Explanation of issue: Content and references updated to meet Wiki guidelines following rejection of last proposal.
References supporting change: Included within the above. Dzstoyanov (talk) 23:06, 23 August 2019 (UTC)
- ^ 刘小卓. "VIPKID becomes world's biggest online education startup - Chinadaily.com.cn". www.chinadaily.com.cn. Retrieved 2019-08-14.
- ^ "Excerpts From the New Work Summit". The New York Times. 2019-03-02. ISSN 0362-4331. Retrieved 2019-08-14.
- ^ "VIPKid Joins BrandZ's Top 100 Most Valuable Chinese Brands Five Years After Its Founding". AP NEWS. 2019-05-06. Retrieved 2019-08-14.
- ^ "The Ultimate Guide to Teaching English with VIPKID". Road Affair. 2019-01-23. Retrieved 2019-08-14.
- ^ VIPKID (2017-12-28). "Why does VIPKID use Common Core". VIPKID Teacher Blog. Retrieved 2019-08-14.
- ^ Miller, Cody (2019-07-13). "Journey Conference brings teachers from around the nation to Las Vegas valley". KSNV. Retrieved 2019-08-23.
- ^ Miller, Cody (2019-07-13). "Journey Conference brings teachers from around the nation to Las Vegas valley". KSNV. Retrieved 2019-08-23.
- ^ Miller, Cody (2019-07-13). "Journey Conference brings teachers from around the nation to Las Vegas valley". KSNV. Retrieved 2019-08-23.
- ^ "CNBC Interview with Cindy Mi, Founder & CEO, VIPKid". CNBC. 2018-11-28. Retrieved 2019-08-23.
- ^ Jacobs, Harrison. "A 35-year-old who dropped out of high school had a vision of a utopian future for China, the US, and the world — and it's led her to the forefront of a tech startup worth $3 billion". Business Insider. Retrieved 2019-08-23.
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