Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Actors and Filmmakers

Native titles

Is there anything wrong with putting native titles beside the English titles of films and dramas in an artist's page, and should they be removed? Noticed most articles for Chinese actors are formatted that way. Example: Peng Yuchang.

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/William Gazecki

Hi! I came across Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/William Gazecki today while reviewing AfDs. Am I crazy? He's been nominated for an Oscar and 4 Emmys, one of which he won, and there are heaps of reliable reviews of his work. Why was this ever nominated? Best, PK650 (talk) 22:25, 29 January 2020 (UTC)

WP:GOLDENRULE. Heaps of reliable sources regarding his work do not constitute significant coverage of the subject. Consensus at the AfD could easily be that the subject warrants a permastub rather than a redirect; that doesn't make it a bad nomination. VQuakr (talk) 02:41, 30 January 2020 (UTC)

Lewis Jacobs

Lewis Jacobs needs work with in-line references, if anyone else is interested. Thanks!Zigzig20s (talk) 02:54, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

Draft:Daisy Edgar-Jones

Bringing attention to the DRAFT for Daisy Edgar-Jones - actress has at least 2 notable roles and media coverage. Co-star Paul Mescal from upcoming series Normal People has been published. Starklinson 07:58, 9 February 2020 (UTC)

Paul Mescal does not pass muster for an article, as far as I am concerned – subject doesn't look to pass either WP:NACTOR or WP:BASIC based on what's at the article. Draft:Daisy Edgar-Jones is a little bit better, but looks borderline IMO. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 08:24, 9 February 2020 (UTC)

Joe Pesci

Hi. Interested editors invited to share thoughts at Talk:Joe Pesci#"Comedian". Thanks. Vaselineeeeeeee^★★★ 22:41, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

Judge Judy GAR

Judy Sheindlin, an article that you or your project may be interested in, has been nominated for an individual good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Nole (chat·edits) 21:35, 25 February 2020 (UTC)

Draft:Mike Hatton

This draft is in review for more than 3 months, i feel all details are with good sources and i am popular actor. but why its not active

Actor or actress? Is there any kind of consensus?

There is an ongoing discussion (and some mild edit-warring) over at Elisabeth Moss whether to use the term "actor" or "actress" for her. Setting aside her specific details re: this issue, is there any kind of project-wide consensus concerning whether we refer to woman actors as "actors" or "actresses"? I looked through the archives and the main project page and nothing jumped out but I am not familiar at all with this project so I could have easily missed something.

If there isn't anything then we would appreciate some help navigating these waters from more editors more experienced with the actor and filmmaker project. Thanks! SQGibbon (talk) 00:46, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

As far as I can tell, standard practice for females is "actress", with the main exception being when one collectively refers to multiple people (including at least one male) who act. To give an example, one would write "Actors Ryan Reynolds and Scarlett Johansson". SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 01:26, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

Last decade it was determined that if a person self identified as an actor then that is the term used. A bit like the situation for gender identification. Moss has clearly referred to herself by this gender neutral term. In the intervening years the move to using the term for men and women has increased. A primary example of that is the fact that on all Comcast menus the only term used is actor. MarnetteD|Talk 01:33, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

Other examples include interviews on the Graham Norton show where actor is used for both sexes and the use of the gender neutral wording for Screen Actors Guild Awards#Categories. Both sexes are part of the same species so separate wording is not needed. Authoress, poetess, comedienne and aviatrix are no longer needed. This falls into the same situation. MarnetteD|Talk 01:37, 2 March 2020‎ (UTC)

Sources abound about the fact that actor has become a gender neutral word. The Merriam-Webster definition here [1] especially its 1st example of usage in a sentence "my sister went to drama school to become an actor". Other dictionaries here [2], here [3] and here [4] all of which use gender neutral definitions. This writing style guide [5] agrees. MarnetteD|Talk 01:40, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

Article Draft: Kimberlee Bassford

Hello, I wrote an article about the documentary filmmaker Kimberlee Bassford. I found out about her randomly because my university was screening one of her films -- that film has a Wikipedia page. I thought it was weird that she didn't have one. Your project may be interested! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Kimberlee_Bassford RLS (talk) 17:54, 24 March 2020 (UTC)