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==Controversies, Criticism==
==Controversies, Criticism==
There is a lot of redundancy and incoherence in the article, in large part because these two sections are independent of each other and have a great big 'in this and that' in between them. I have no time to merge them tonight. [[User:ZarhanFastfire|ZarhanFastfire]] ([[User talk:ZarhanFastfire|talk]]) 03:19, 17 May 2018 (UTC)
There is a lot of redundancy and incoherence in the article, in large part because these two sections are independent of each other and have a great big 'in this and that' in between them. I have no time to merge them tonight. [[User:ZarhanFastfire|ZarhanFastfire]] ([[User talk:ZarhanFastfire|talk]]) 03:19, 17 May 2018 (UTC)

::Two years late, but you're right. I'd be glad to merge the two sections. I think the "Controversies" section should include a section on Chick Publications' Islamophobic beliefs too. [[User:Dustytumble|Dustytumble]] ([[User talk:Dustytumble|talk]]) 04:01, 23 August 2020 (UTC)

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¿Should the article mention that ChickTracts are popular among atheists for their campiness?

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I am not sure whether the article should mention the popularity of ChickTracks among atheists. Some atheists like Sam Mulvey of the PodCast "¡Ask An Theist!" collect ChickTracks. I am not certain that this belongs in the article or not. It seems like it belongs in the section Parodies and Popular Culture.

76.102.233.65 (talk) 07:31, 30 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure that one guy with a podcast is either notable or equates to the tracks being "popular among atheists".
However, if you could source this in order to prove it is actually a "thing", that would be an interesting note. I'm sure Chick would be rolling in his grave to hear it…
Yours - Ckruschke (talk) 17:31, 1 November 2016 (UTC)Ckruschke[reply]
Sam Mulvey is an example At no point did I propose the section " ¡Sam Mulvey Collects ChickTracks!".
76.102.233.65 (talk) 13:56, 5 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I think we can only mention that if we have a reliable source that says that they are popular among atheists for their campiness. I don't think it's enough to find one atheist who collects them, though; there needs to be documentation that someone has observed this as a trend rather than finding individual examples. After all, we can't list everyone or even every type of person who collects Chick tracts in this article. Alicb (talk)
I an atheist and all of my friends who are atheists love to read these crazy tracts. I personally do not collect them. I do not see the point in collecting them because they are everywhere. You may not believe it, but ChickTracts are popular among atheists. I am not sure this belongs in the article, but I never heard of a ChickTract converting an atheist.
76.102.233.65 (talk) 13:56, 5 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Unfortunately stating that you and your friends think Chick Tracts are humorous is what's called Original Research and cannot be included in an encyclopedic site such as Wikipedia. If you can find a magazine article or book that recounts something like that, you'd be great. Ckruschke (talk) 18:49, 8 November 2016 (UTC)Ckruschke[reply]
Atheist YouTube pair Hugo and Jake do a popular series in which they read and criticize Chick Tracts both in and out of character and devise additional dialogue for the stories. I don't know if this is Wikipedia-worthy or not, though. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.25.104.174 (talk) 01:34, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Does this meet your criteria of campiness? ---------User:DanTD (talk) 13:55, 11 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Youtube videos aren't considered viable citations by Wikipedia. It might as well be two people talking on Twitter. Ckruschke (talk) 19:34, 13 May 2020 (UTC)Ckruschke[reply]
Ckruschke, it is not YouTube but the fact that an unverified channel has published something that may well be a copyright violation. With YouTube and Twitter, each channel/account must be considered on its own merits. Remember that ABC News has a presence in both places, for example; ABC's videos or Tweets are just as reliable as its website posts. Elizium23 (talk) 19:42, 13 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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There is a lot of redundancy and incoherence in the article, in large part because these two sections are independent of each other and have a great big 'in this and that' in between them. I have no time to merge them tonight. ZarhanFastfire (talk) 03:19, 17 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Two years late, but you're right. I'd be glad to merge the two sections. I think the "Controversies" section should include a section on Chick Publications' Islamophobic beliefs too. Dustytumble (talk) 04:01, 23 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]