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*'''Disambig''' per the ip. [[Russian]] can be linked as a see-also. [[User:Thryduulf|Thryduulf]] ([[User talk:Thryduulf|talk]]) 14:00, 9 October 2020 (UTC) |
*'''Disambig''' per the ip. [[Russian]] can be linked as a see-also. [[User:Thryduulf|Thryduulf]] ([[User talk:Thryduulf|talk]]) 14:00, 9 October 2020 (UTC) |
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*'''Keep as is or disambiguate'''. This shouldn't redirect to [[Russian]] any more than [[Rusyn]] should; they're separate terms that mean different things. [[User:Vorziblix|Vorziblix]] ([[User talk:Vorziblix|talk]]) 15:59, 9 October 2020 (UTC) |
*'''Keep as is or disambiguate'''. This shouldn't redirect to [[Russian]] any more than [[Rusyn]] should; they're separate terms that mean different things. [[User:Vorziblix|Vorziblix]] ([[User talk:Vorziblix|talk]]) 15:59, 9 October 2020 (UTC) |
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*'''Delete'''. All this achieves by its existence is to block the search engine doing its job. It is not quite [[WP:XY]], since [[Belarus]] ad {{-r|Belarusian}} exist, but certainly I think someone typing "Rusian" is perhaps looking for [[Russian]]. I doubt they are looking (in English WP) for anything else, they are not looking for a [[ruse]] nor a [[rosa]] nor[[rusu]. |
*'''Delete'''. All this achieves by its existence is to block the search engine doing its job. It is not quite [[WP:XY]], since [[Belarus]] ad {{-r|Belarusian}} exist, but certainly I think someone typing "Rusian" is perhaps looking for [[Russian]]. I doubt they are looking (in English WP) for anything else, they are not looking for a [[ruse]] nor a [[rosa]] nor a [[rusu]]]. All this does is blocks readers from finding the article they want: so let the search engine do its job. [[User:MagyarLinguist|MagyarLinguist]] ([[User talk:MagyarLinguist|talk]]) 16:22, 9 October 2020 (UTC) |
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====Wikipedia:Christopher Hollins==== |
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Revision as of 16:24, 9 October 2020
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on October 9, 2020.
NC 10 (film)
- NC 10 (film) → Kriti Sanon (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
There is no film named "NC 10", so it's unlikely to be a search term. Seventyfiveyears (talk) 14:50, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
Ali Osman Karnapoglu
- Ali Osman Karnapoglu → Ali Karnapoğlu (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Could be deleted, because the correct redirect Ali Osman Karnapoğlu already exists.
- Keep this, it's plausible to search without the breve above the G, like Ali Karnapoglu which gets a good number of pageviews per year. On that note, this one could also get a similar number from helping facilitate searches like this. Regards, SONIC678 15:44, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
Untitled Avengers film
- Untitled Avengers film → Avengers: Endgame (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Endgame it out now, this page might be needed in the future for another project. ★Trekker (talk) 13:17, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
- I see no issue with this continuing to redirect to Endgame until such time that a new, but at that point untitled, Avengers film is announced. Alternatively, I'd say we should just delete it. --Jasca Ducato (talk | contributions) 13:20, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
- And what is the issue with just getting it out of the way right away? All these "Untitled such and such" should honestly be deleted right away when an article gets a propper name. They no longer fill any purpose and take up space.★Trekker (talk) 13:22, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
- Delete as Endgame is and titled and released film, rendering the redirect as no longer needed. -GoatLordServant (Talk) 13:25, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
- Delete as it is no longer necessary to retain given Endgame is the commonly known title for the film and getting it out of the way now would prevent it from causing an inconvenience in the future if it is needed then. Trailblazer101 (talk) 14:01, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
- Keep per past RfDs regarding this here and here. After originally using the working title Infinity War Part II, Endgame was known as the "Untitled Avengers film" from July 2016 until December 2018, so it is a valid redirect to keep. We can cross the bridge as the nominator noted for a future film potentially using this title, if that even is something that happens. But for now, the redirect should stay. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 15:03, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
Untitled The New Mutants film
- Untitled The New Mutants film → New Mutants#In other media (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
No need for this anymore. The film is out. ★Trekker (talk) 13:16, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. This is completely unnecessary. Trailblazer101 (talk) 14:02, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
2020 French Open – Mixed Doubles
- 2020 French Open – Mixed Doubles → 2020 French Open (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
It’s probably not going to be held this year. – 333-blue at 11:20, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
- Keep No it isn't being held, but it's a plausible search term, as articles exists for all previous years. And a redirect to the 2020 French Open article which says it's cancelled is useful to understand- there is a sentence in that article which clearly explains it's not happening. And the redirect helps with categorisation of Category:Sports events cancelled due to the COVID-19 pandemic- most of which are redirects, because cancelled events aren't generally independently notable. Joseph2302 (talk) 11:34, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
- Keep exactly per Joseph2302. We've had several of these redirects nominated this year and none of them have been deleted. Thryduulf (talk) 13:59, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
Rusian
Could also be a misspelling of Russian. Retarget to Russian. Soumya-8974 talk contribs subpages 08:41, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
- Comment Rusian with one 's' is a correct alternative name for either Old East Slavic and Ruthenian language, and is mentioned at both articles. I am not sure whether the best solution here is to disambiguate for those two languages, or retarget to Rus, or what, but retargetting to Russian is not a good idea - correct spellings should take priority over misspellings. 59.149.124.29 (talk) 09:51, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
- Disambig per the ip. Russian can be linked as a see-also. Thryduulf (talk) 14:00, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
- Keep as is or disambiguate. This shouldn't redirect to Russian any more than Rusyn should; they're separate terms that mean different things. Vorziblix (talk) 15:59, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
- Delete. All this achieves by its existence is to block the search engine doing its job. It is not quite WP:XY, since Belarus ad Belarusian exist, but certainly I think someone typing "Rusian" is perhaps looking for Russian. I doubt they are looking (in English WP) for anything else, they are not looking for a ruse nor a rosa nor a rusu]. All this does is blocks readers from finding the article they want: so let the search engine do its job. MagyarLinguist (talk) 16:22, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Christopher Hollins
- The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
- The result of the discussion was Speedy delete per WP:CSD#G6 and WP:CSD#G7. Thryduulf (talk) 14:03, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
- Wikipedia:Christopher Hollins → Christopher Hollins (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
I made this page by mistake. I was trying to move a draft to mainspace and I thought that would be accomplished by moving it to "Wikipedia", but the correct choice was "(Article)". There is no need for a redirect. Sorry. --David Tornheim (talk) 07:23, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
- Speedy delete as G7. --Paul_012 (talk) 07:58, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
- @David Tornheim: You aren't the first to make this mistake and you won't be the last, but if you think of any way to make the instructions clearer please do share your ideas. Thryduulf (talk) 14:03, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.
Academic School
- Academic School → Platonic Academy (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Not mentioned in target. Is this really a term used to refer to it? Paul_012 (talk) 04:05, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
- A simple Google Books search for Plato with "Academic School" finds numerous scholarly hits referring to Plato's Academy. I didn't investigate them all to see what the general capitalization was—Google presented the first few with "school" not capitalized, but the originals should be checked, since in some cases that could be an artifact of digitization and indexing. In any case, it looks like it might be treated as a proper name—and unqualified, that name seems unlikely to refer to other notable institutions. So my first impression is that it's an alternative name for Plato's Academy—along with "Platonic Academy", the current article title, and "Plato's school", as shown on this ngram, in which many of the hits for "Academic School" are probably not references to Plato's Academy, although I would say that a number of them probably are—the overall trend looks similar with or without case-sensitivity. The lead probably should give these alternative names—they aren't confusing and don't require extended discussion. But I'd defer to our Greek experts, in case they have any definite opinions. P Aculeius (talk) 13:44, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
List of Planets in Alien Films
- List of Planets in Alien Films → Alien (film) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
This was formerly a stub article created back in 2017, until it was redirected shortly after to its current target, which contains no such list (which I can't seem to find on Wikipedia), and didn't contain it at the time. There is a section about planets in the film's design, but I'm not sure about refining there, so maybe delete unless someone can find a better target. Regards, SONIC678 03:06, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
Worship the porcelain god
- Worship the porcelain god → Vomiting (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
None of "worship", "porcelain" or "God" appear in the target article. Porcelain god does exist though as a soft redirect to Wiktionary so I suggest we retarget this there. See also Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 October 7#Bow down before the porcelain god. Thryduulf (talk) 02:37, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
- Found an even better target Soft redirect to wikt:worship the porcelain god. Hog Farm Bacon 03:24, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
- That is indeed better. Thryduulf (talk) 14:04, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
- Soft redirect to Wiktionary. We're not a dictionary of slang phrases. Joseph2302 (talk) 14:21, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
- Soft redirect to Wiktionary per above. Seventyfiveyears (talk) 15:55, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
Capitalist pig-dog
- Capitalist pig-dog → List of German expressions in English#German terms mostly used for literary effect (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
I can find no mentions of this phrase on enwiki. Without any explanation anywhere, I don' think this is helpful. Hog Farm Bacon 01:53, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
- delete per nom. I can't immediately find evidence we have ever had any content about this. Thryduulf (talk) 02:51, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
Eka-barium
Not mentioned at the target; doesn't seem to be used. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 00:06, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
- Add content somewhere. It's trivially verifiable that prior to the discovery of Radium it was predicted to exist and "Eka-barium" was the placeholder name for it. We don't currently have anywhere to send this redirect, but we should. Thryduulf (talk) 02:57, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
- If kept, retarget to Mendeleev's predicted elements, which is where the coverage of the eka- element predictions is and where the main predictions redirect to. (Maybe the ones that don't should likewise be RfDed.) --Paul_012 (talk) 04:15, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
- Hmmm. This book suggets eka-barium turned out to be an isotope of Barium, so I'm not sure that Mendeleev's predicted elements is great, either. Hog Farm Bacon 04:22, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
- But then this calls eka-barium radium. Maybe there have been multiple things known as eka-barium. Hog Farm Bacon 04:23, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
- Keep and mention it in the target article's history section (which I will try to do myself if I have time). This redirect is correct and unambiguous, and consistent with other redirects for placeholder names. ComplexRational (talk) 15:52, 9 October 2020 (UTC)