Talk:New World (video game)

Characterization of zombies as native american analogue

The citation for that part of the article comes from a pretty obviously slanted source and I think describing the Corrupted as previous settlers, as Amazon does in its official material, is more factually accurate. -- nathanielhm 2020-02-05 6:40 am utc

what do you mean by “slanted”? It’s a legit source. --2A00:23C6:CC00:A00:A19B:6BB6:DA5:20FC (talk) 22:05, 1 July 2020 (UTC)

A case of tautology

Could the case of tautology be corrected? Currently, the release date delay to 2021 is being mentioned twice. (Although I wouldn't want to see a second of the references removed.)--Adûnâi (talk) 10:14, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

Fixed. -- ferret (talk) 12:15, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

Edit War

@2600:8800:FF0E:1200:C5B0:E12C:7CB0:27E4: It fails WP:VGSCOPE #3 and #7. Flalf^Talk 15:37, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

there are no "avoid explaining button combinations or cheat codes"--2600:8800:FF0E:1200:C5B0:E12C:7CB0:27E4 (talk) 15:41, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

there are no "Specific point values, achievements and trophies, time-limits, levels (including lists of stadia/sport venues), character moves, character weight classes, unlockable characters, vehicles"--2600:8800:FF0E:1200:C5B0:E12C:7CB0:27E4 (talk) 15:41, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

I have gone ahead and removed the list of skills. However, most of the new introductions are not WP:GAMECRUFT as they are discussing basic gameplay facts only. OceanHok (talk) 15:42, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

Also the plot section needs to be removed entirely, it's done more like a gameplay guide than a plot overview. The other nitpick I have is you don't need to put parenthesis after a blue link (such as PVE, HOV, etc.) Flalf^Talk 15:45, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

I'll bring in a third party for opinion. Flalf^Talk 15:47, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

Dude, i have no idea what you are saying - you say "nitpick" and yet you go ahead and erase 2300 bytes worth of work with a single keystroke and Absolutely, no explanation!--2600:8800:FF0E:1200:C5B0:E12C:7CB0:27E4 (talk) 15:48, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

The 'nitpick' was me trying to give advice for future editing, The revert was because your edits weren't that constructive! Especially for an unreleased game! Flalf^Talk 15:51, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

@2600:8800:FF0E:1200:C5B0:E12C:7CB0:27E4: Hey friend! Please read the edit summaries as to why I have reverted your work so you don't start causing edit wars. Flalf^Talk 17:44, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

I think you have not edited too many MMO's - the PURPOSE of the game is these skills - look at the write up for World of Warcraft - quote "such as tailoring, blacksmithing or jewelcrafting or on gathering from resource nodes, such as skinning or mining. Characters can learn all three secondary skills: archeology, cooking, and fishing." I think you should go over to World of Warcraft's wikipage and attempt to remove those skills from the write up - what you will get is an instant call for an administrator and a statement that you are vandalizing the page.--2600:8800:FF0E:1200:C5B0:E12C:7CB0:27E4 (talk) 17:47, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

Please before making future edits review MOS:VG. Accusing me of vandalism is completely incorrect, and they can check the revision history to see the validity of my edits. Flalf^Talk 17:52, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

No, large deletions of a wiki article with a single keystroke is EXACTLY the definition of vandalism--2600:8800:FF0E:1200:C5B0:E12C:7CB0:27E4 (talk) 17:54, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

Deleting things that were written poorly and needed to be rewritten is not vandalism. Contact an admin for all I care I'm just trying to follow policy as best as I can. Flalf^Talk 18:02, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

you say "written poorly" I say you have clearly never edited the page for an MMO and I have given you a way to test you theory = go to WOW page and try to attempt such deletions there - good luck with the outcome of that--2600:8800:FF0E:1200:C5B0:E12C:7CB0:27E4 (talk) 18:05, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

There's no need to do such deletions there, it's mostly well written. I'm doing this because the plot section isn't written as it should be, it's like an early game review. I've notified ARV, I just want to edit normally. Flalf^Talk 18:07, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

"it's mostly well written", good so go over there and attempt to rewrite some of the "bad written" you are implying and see how fast you get an admin and ban for vandalism there--2600:8800:FF0E:1200:C5B0:E12C:7CB0:27E4 (talk) 18:11, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

I've chucked page protection on this, please come to a suitable resolution here and not continue an edit war. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 18:17, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

A list of specific skills is WP:GAMECRUFT#7 because you are presenting it as a list. If you look at the way how World of Warcraft presents the information and how you present the information, you will probably notice why your way isn't ideal. Take "Gathering" ("Logging", "Mining", "Harvesting", and "Tracking and Skinning") as an example. This is GAMECRUFT. But if you turn it to players can gather resources in the game, such as log, metals, crops, and animal parts., that's much better because it is no longer a list.

The plot section is for the game's story. The current version is not about the game's story and therefore, should be removed. IP editor needs to assume good faith instead of accusing others of vandalism. Using World of Warcraft is a case of WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS and asking other editors to remove information there just to prove a point is considered to be inappropriate. OceanHok (talk) 12:48, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

quote, "log, metals, crops, and animal parts" - yeah, I dont remember that being anywhere in the game = WP:Synthesis - but go ahead and rewrite it again - now with that synthesis - you are guaranteed for me to revert your synthesis additions--2600:8800:FF0E:1200:C5B0:E12C:7CB0:27E4 (talk) 18:11, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

further, no where in WP:GAMECRUFT do i see being forbidden a list of skills in an MMO - thats right cause that would be rediculous since the point of an MMO is to build those very same skills - thus by your removal that would also be = wp:synthesis. Section 7 of the wiki rule is "Lists of gameplay items" most games have thousands of items in them and yes such mondane items being complied into a list is useless as part of an encyclopedia but yet has nothing to do with a list of the BASIC SKILLS of a game--2600:8800:FF0E:1200:C5B0:E12C:7CB0:27E4 (talk) 18:15, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

"Using World of Warcraft is a case of WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS" = oh yeah right since that game being the best example of what is the accepted norms for wiki is definitely out of bounds - again saying you dont need to follow the paradigm example of how to write a MMO again = wp:synthesis --2600:8800:FF0E:1200:C5B0:E12C:7CB0:27E4 (talk) 18:19, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

as for "The plot section is for the game's story." again you played it right? so you know the plot better than me right?(what little there is at this point in a new game only in Beta-testing) oh, wait you mean you have no idea what the plot actually is and yet you think you can discern and write that same said plot = again wp:synthesis--2600:8800:FF0E:1200:C5B0:E12C:7CB0:27E4 (talk) 18:24, 23 October 2020 (UTC)