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:Did she or not? I'm serious. That's the question.[[User:Arglebargle79|Arglebargle79]] ([[User talk:Arglebargle79#top|talk]]) 00:36, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
:Did she or not? I'm serious. That's the question.[[User:Arglebargle79|Arglebargle79]] ([[User talk:Arglebargle79#top|talk]]) 00:36, 5 January 2021 (UTC)


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Okay, here we go: I did not violate the [[Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons|biographies of living persons]] policy. True, I was less than civil when it came to the edit on [[Talk:Attempts to overturn the 2020 United States presidential election]]. I did not say anything that wasn't verified by reliable media.

Yes, I know that in the past I have been falsely accused of being disruptive. These have to do with previous articles in the series. The first was about where to put the perennial hobbyist [[Rocky de la Fuented]] in the [[Results of the 2020 Republican Party presidential primaries]]. The fellow had gotten on the ballots in enough states to make him 'major candidate' and So I put him on the chart separately. A protracted argument followed, and It was eventually decided in my favor. Then there was a kerfuffle about a photograph of President-elect Biden, who hadn't gotten the title yet. The photo was changed from a decent one to one that was downright creepy.
The use of the term by others on the subject is in the record somewhere. The person who was defending the use of the photo as "consensus" began stalking me, and they issued numerous unfounded complaints. Taking their side, I was put on limited sanctions. Again, these were unfounded.

So now we come to this. I am accused of violating [[Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons|biographies of living persons]]. How?

The policy is, and I quote:

Editors must take particular care when adding information about living persons to any Wikipedia page.[a] Such material requires a high degree of sensitivity, and must adhere strictly to all applicable laws in the United States, to this policy, and to Wikipedia's three core content policies:

Neutral point of view (NPOV)
Verifiability (V)
No original research (NOR)

AS to [[WP:NOR]], there wasn't any. I have never done so, except for maybe once. This was at the [[2016 Democratic National Convention|2016 Democratic convention]] when after ASKING PERMISSION, I posted a photograph of a credential I had been given to attend the event. It was later taken down, for copyright reasons, and I didn't complain.

On a number of times, there were false accusations of such because I had posted the facts just prior to posting the reference. Most recently, having to do with a nifty bit of trivia having to do with last Sunday's opening of Congress, It was the first time this has ever happened. It was challenged and I proved it again. No harm no foul.

Then there's Verifiability [[WP:V]], Everything I have put on the main page of all articles have been verified. As to the [[Emily Murphy]] thing. I never posted anything unverified in the article. In fact, I never posted anything about her at all on the main page of the article in question. I did not put the "offending" section up, nor did I revert it when it was twice taken down. I'm serious. If there disruptive edits, it wasn't me.

The only thing I said on the matter was:

"...just got rid of the entire Emily Murphy section, which BTW, was there from the very creation of the article and is a vital part of the narrative."

that's it. There was a later part of the thread when another poster falsely accused me of libeling Ms.Murphy. I replied infelicitously, but then, I was provoked.

Remember, Ms. Murphy is Administrator of the [[General Services Aministration]], a cabinet-level office in the Federal government, making her a Public Figure. The relevant "scripture" on the subject is this:

...In the case of public figures, there will be a multitude of reliable published sources, and '''BLPs should simply document what these sources say.''' If an allegation or incident is noteworthy, relevant, and well documented, ''it belongs in the article—even if it is negative and the subject dislikes all mention of it.'' If you cannot find multiple reliable third-party sources documenting the allegation or incident, leave it out.

What Ms. Murphy did, was widely reported in all major newspapers, TV networks, and reliable websites in North America and the Rest of the World. I said that that the certain poster knew Ms. Murphy because I could find no reason why she would go to such lengths to defend her. I was simply trying to understand.

I also wish to note that I never mentioned Ms.Murphy's social life, personal life, or anything else about her taking place between November 3 and 30, 2020. They are irrelevant.

The main thing was about Trump himself. The article in question, and most of the other articles related to it, are, as to subject matter, quite insane. (this is NOT [[WP:POV]])

'''Babykins throws a tantrum:''' Depicting Trump as a baby here (and not on the main page, obviously) is done because the enablers in high and elected office were treating him as such...

There are countless reports in reliable sources where people say this.

To quote one of the people who got me blocked :

Now you're calling her an actual criminal, (which I did not) and your evidence is a tweet from Trump, ''a known liar who will throw anyone under the bus if he thinks it'll make him look good.'' Nope, I don't know the woman and as far as I know have never met anyone who's met her, but thanks for that show of good faith lol. All of us should be concerned that we avoid libeling any living human being.

Notice that THEY are characterizing the President in the exact same way I did. Should THEY be blocked as well.

I ask humbly, please unblock me. I have much to contribute. [[User:Arglebargle79|Arglebargle79]] ([[User talk:Arglebargle79#top|talk]]) 14:11, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

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Heads up – Trump just tweeted about your latest edit to Matthew W. Brann. It has since been reverted and restored with better wording, but I thought you should know. – bradv🍁 05:40, 22 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Bradv: Cool!!!!!...Better wording is never objectionable to me, thanks for the heads up!Arglebargle79 (talk) 13:23, 22 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Even worse POV edits have been made by you on Attempts to overturn the 2020 United States presidential election. This is deeply concerning behaviour. I urge you to not make any edits that are likely to be reverted for neutrality purposes. Onetwothreeip (talk) 22:15, 1 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Letting you know I asked for an admin to take a look at your comment on the talk page. Onetwothreeip (talk) 21:10, 3 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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This and this are beyond the pale for discussing living persons. Please turn your rhetoric way, way, way down, or you are likely to end up with a topic ban from modern American politics. —valereee (talk) 18:25, 4 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The question was, did she do it and was it appropriate?Arglebargle79 (talk) 18:41, 4 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
No, that is not the question. The question is What are reliable sources saying? —valereee (talk) 20:02, 4 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Arglebargle79. For goodness sake STOP, just STOP :( GoodDay (talk) 20:41, 4 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Well, @GoodDay:, Did the GSA Administrator refuse to sign the asertainment papers for two weeks and delay the cooperation between Biden transition and the administration? Arglebargle79 (talk) 00:15, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I've tried to help you, but to no avail :( GoodDay (talk) 00:21, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Did she or not? I'm serious. That's the question.Arglebargle79 (talk) 00:36, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Okay, here we go: I did not violate the biographies of living persons policy. True, I was less than civil when it came to the edit on Talk:Attempts to overturn the 2020 United States presidential election. I did not say anything that wasn't verified by reliable media.

Yes, I know that in the past I have been falsely accused of being disruptive. These have to do with previous articles in the series. The first was about where to put the perennial hobbyist Rocky de la Fuented in the Results of the 2020 Republican Party presidential primaries. The fellow had gotten on the ballots in enough states to make him 'major candidate' and So I put him on the chart separately. A protracted argument followed, and It was eventually decided in my favor. Then there was a kerfuffle about a photograph of President-elect Biden, who hadn't gotten the title yet. The photo was changed from a decent one to one that was downright creepy. The use of the term by others on the subject is in the record somewhere. The person who was defending the use of the photo as "consensus" began stalking me, and they issued numerous unfounded complaints. Taking their side, I was put on limited sanctions. Again, these were unfounded.

So now we come to this. I am accused of violating biographies of living persons. How?

The policy is, and I quote:

 Editors must take particular care when adding information about living persons to any Wikipedia page.[a] Such material requires a high degree of sensitivity, and must adhere strictly to all applicable laws in the United States, to this policy, and to Wikipedia's three core content policies:
   Neutral point of view (NPOV)
   Verifiability (V)
   No original research (NOR)

AS to WP:NOR, there wasn't any. I have never done so, except for maybe once. This was at the 2016 Democratic convention when after ASKING PERMISSION, I posted a photograph of a credential I had been given to attend the event. It was later taken down, for copyright reasons, and I didn't complain.

On a number of times, there were false accusations of such because I had posted the facts just prior to posting the reference. Most recently, having to do with a nifty bit of trivia having to do with last Sunday's opening of Congress, It was the first time this has ever happened. It was challenged and I proved it again. No harm no foul.

Then there's Verifiability WP:V, Everything I have put on the main page of all articles have been verified. As to the Emily Murphy thing. I never posted anything unverified in the article. In fact, I never posted anything about her at all on the main page of the article in question. I did not put the "offending" section up, nor did I revert it when it was twice taken down. I'm serious. If there disruptive edits, it wasn't me.

The only thing I said on the matter was:

 "...just got rid of the entire Emily Murphy section, which BTW, was there from the very creation of the article and is a vital part of the narrative."

that's it. There was a later part of the thread when another poster falsely accused me of libeling Ms.Murphy. I replied infelicitously, but then, I was provoked.

Remember, Ms. Murphy is Administrator of the General Services Aministration, a cabinet-level office in the Federal government, making her a Public Figure. The relevant "scripture" on the subject is this:

 ...In the case of public figures, there will be a multitude of reliable published sources, and BLPs should simply document what these sources say. If an allegation or incident is noteworthy, relevant, and well documented, it belongs in the article—even if it is negative and the subject dislikes all mention of it. If you cannot find multiple reliable third-party sources documenting the allegation or incident, leave it out. 

What Ms. Murphy did, was widely reported in all major newspapers, TV networks, and reliable websites in North America and the Rest of the World. I said that that the certain poster knew Ms. Murphy because I could find no reason why she would go to such lengths to defend her. I was simply trying to understand.

I also wish to note that I never mentioned Ms.Murphy's social life, personal life, or anything else about her taking place between November 3 and 30, 2020. They are irrelevant.

The main thing was about Trump himself. The article in question, and most of the other articles related to it, are, as to subject matter, quite insane. (this is NOT WP:POV)

Babykins throws a tantrum: Depicting Trump as a baby here (and not on the main page, obviously) is done because the enablers in high and elected office were treating him as such...

There are countless reports in reliable sources where people say this.

To quote one of the people who got me blocked :

Now you're calling her an actual criminal, (which I did not) and your evidence is a tweet from Trump, a known liar who will throw anyone under the bus if he thinks it'll make him look good. Nope, I don't know the woman and as far as I know have never met anyone who's met her, but thanks for that show of good faith lol. All of us should be concerned that we avoid libeling any living human being. 

Notice that THEY are characterizing the President in the exact same way I did. Should THEY be blocked as well.

I ask humbly, please unblock me. I have much to contribute. Arglebargle79 (talk) 14:11, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]