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Edit Request - brief, 2nd paragraph: As a french, I'm surprised that the date of France Foundation isn't even mentioned, the baptism of Clovis in 496. Also Germanic tribes didn't arrive in 476, that's the date of the fall of the Roman Empire. Here is my proposal: " The Germanic Franks arrived in 476 and formed the Kingdom of Francia, which became the heartland of the Carolingian Empire. " -> "Germanic tribes took over the territory after the fall of the Roman Empire in 476. Clovis, King of the Germanic Franks, managed to reunite the most of it under one Kingdom. In 496 he converts to the Christian religion, thus allying with the Gallo-Roman people and funding the first Kingdom of what will become later France and its first dynasty of Kings, the Merovingians, followed three centuries later by a second dynasty, the Carolingians, whose Charlemagne founded his Empire." My sources are just French Wikipedia articles. Thank you
In the third paragraph: "Higher education is divided between public universities and the prestigious and selective Grandes écoles, such as Sciences Po Paris for Political studies, HEC Paris for Economics, Polytechnique and the École nationale supérieure des mines de Paris that produce high-profile engineers, or the École nationale d'administration for careers in the Grands Corps of the state" Among the examples of Grandes écoles, I think that it should be interesting to add "École normale supérieure for academic research". Indeed it is one of the most esteemed schools in France, and the leader for research. A link to the page of this school: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/École_normale_supérieure_(Paris) Thank you. Edit Request - [Education] section: In the last paragraphe of the section [Education], it is stated "Health insurance for students is free until the age of 20." France has Universal Healthcare which although has some affiliation with concepts of insurance due to partial reimbursements of fees and costs, it is free and provided regardless of age or income. It is also comparatively very low cost. Because of the above, it is misleading and even erroneous to bring into the article claims of age restrictions or even notions of insurance policies which, especially US audiences, evoke false images of potentially costly personal healthcare through [private] insurance companies. I suggest removing any text regarding health insurance in regards to the education section as it is not relevant to the French educational system. Cdelapointe (talk) 20:31, 28 February 2018 (UTC) Edit Request - Law section: "France is tolerant of the LGBT community. Since 1999, civil unions for homosexual couples are permitted, and since May 2013, same-sex marriage and LGBT adoption are legal in France.[99]" to be removed: LGBT adoption is Legal Same sex marriage is legal in France since may 2013 but LGBT adoption is legal, it's actually the subject of larges debates ("manif pour tous" vs "Anti Manif pour tous"). Edit Request - Literature Section: "Jean de La Fontaine is one of the most famous fabulist of that time, as he wrote hundreds of fables, some being far more famous than others, such as The Ant and the Grasshopper."he is stupid and is awesome. Upon reading the article on "The Ant and the Grasshopper" - Fontaine was _reinterpreting_ Aesop's Fables. Edit request Hi, in the fourth paragraph of the introduction, there is a link that states France has the fourth largest nominal military budget, but when you click on the link the article states it has the fifth largest budget. Could someone check please. Cheers In the Prehistory section, it states: "The oldest traces of human life in what is now France date from approximately 1,800,000 years ago." Sorry, but humans have not been around than long. Wikipedia's own article on humans states they originated in Africa some 200,000 years ago, one 9th of the time stated in this article. The citation is 25 years old and is now obviously superceded. Plus one: +1 : this is assertion in not only completely stupid but based on completelty outdated references. Please delete.92.144.185.233 (talk) 22:00, 4 March 2014 (UTC) Edit request In the economy section, it says "France derives 75% of its electricity from nuclear power, the highest percentage in the world.[138]". Can someone put a better source, the source given claims that France makes 39% of electricity from nuclear, in complete contradiction with the article. France is known for bacon. Maybe this one: http://www.iaea.org/PRIS/WorldStatistics/NuclearShareofElectricityGeneration.aspx Up to date and reliable. The real figure is 73%. Liberivore (talk) 16:14, 24 June 2014 (UTC) Edit request The lead needs more than a single sentence on the history of France.OnBeyondZebrax (talk) 18:13, 17 October 2014 (UTC) Edit request in the Religion section The paragraph begins with: is the Roman Catholic cathedral where the kings of France were crowned until 1825.[235] ]] This text should be below the picture instead of in the paragraph, please correct it. 194.98.34.59 (talk) 12:30, 22 May 2015 (UTC) Edit request - Foreign relations section Last paragraph: "In 2009, France was the second largest (in absolute numbers) donor of development aid in the world, behind the US, and ahead of Germany, Japan and the UK.[145] This represents 0.5% of its GDP, in this regard rating France as tenth largest donor on the list." According to OECD (http://www.compareyourcountry.org/%5C/oda?page=0&cr=oecd&lg=en) in 2014, France is listed fourth largest donor, behind US, UK and Germany. This represents 0.36% of its GDP, in this regard 12th largest donor.87.212.145.228 (talk) 21:51, 29 November 2015 (UTC) |
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Edit request 3.7.2013 Population should be corrected
Estimated total population of France is 66 200 000 (1st January 2012). It should be noted that currently cited INSEE number does not include Mayotte or COM (collectivités d’outre-mer).
Source: http://www.insee.fr/fr/ffc/ipweb/ip1385/ip1385.pdf
From page four: Le champ géographique du bilan démographique de 2011 reste la France métropolitaine et les DOM, mais sans Mayotte, dont la transformation en département d’outre-mer date du 31 mars 2011. En ajoutant les 803 000 habitants des collectivités d’outre-mer et de Mayotte, la population des territoires de la République française au 1 er janvier 2012 est estimée à 66,2 millions d’habitants.
EEZ - contradicting information
The fifth paragraph says that France has the world's largest EEZ. However, under the Geography heading, it says that France has the 2nd largest EEZ.
Geography
Location and Borders
The European part of France is called Metropolitan France and it is located in one of the occidental ends of Europe. It is bordered by the North Sea in the north, the English Channel in the north-west, the Atlantic Ocean in the west and the Mediterranean sea in the south-east. It borders Belgium and Luxembourg in the north east. It also borders Germany and Switzerland in the east, Italy and Monaco in the south-east, Spain and Andorra in the south west. The borders in the south and in the east of the country are mountain ranges: the Pyrenees, the Alps and the Jura, the border in the east is from the Rhine river, while the border in the north and the north east melts in no natural elements. Due to its shape, it is often referred to in French as l'Hexagone ("The Hexagon"). Metropolitan France includes various islands: Corsica and coastal islands. Metropolitan France is situated mostly between latitudes 41° N and 55° N, and longitudes 6° W and 10° E, on the western edge of Europe, and thus lies within the northern temperate zone. Its continental part covers about 1000 km from north to south and from east to west.
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Most of the comments on this page are unsigned, or "autosigned" by a bot. I mean absolutely no disrespect by this question, I ask it entirely in order to cure my own ignorance, and not facetiously. Do authors on frWikipedia not sign their posts? Are maybe all postings autosigned? My French is scarce to none (I can count to ten, orally, if you disregard an atrocious accent, but don't ask me to spell any words. I can spell "un", unless it has diacritical marks, in which case, I don't know). I therefore do not visit the French Wikipedia, so I don't know. rags (talk)
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I would like to edit and contribute to this wikipage about France please.
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Change <<is a country whose territory consists of metropolitan France in Western Europe and several overseas regions and territories.>> to << is a country that consists of metropolitan France in Western Europe and several overseas regions and territories. Arcatom (talk) 19:58, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
Not done: The original is more accurate and descriptive. The territory of France gives more information then just france.
Problematic concept: "degraded" oceanic climate
The "Climate" subsection under the "Geography" section uses the problematic concept of a "degraded oceanic climate". This concept was introduced relatively recently, in an edit on 10 April 2020 by Météo&Nature, and is not reflected in the accompanying map, which shows most of France simply as having an oceanic climate, without qualification. The "degraded" terminology is not used in the articles on Oceanic climate nor Köppen climate classification.
I have not fixed this problem, because I don't know enough about the climate of France to know what to change it to. (I came to this article to learn about France, not to edit it.) But I ask that someone with knowledge of the French climate should do so. The appropriate fix may not be obvious, but this "degraded oceanic climate" terminology appears to be unsatisfactory. If that terminology is appropriate, then the articles on Oceanic climate and/or Köppen climate classification should be edited to include explanation of the "degraded oceanic climate" concept.
—Syrenka V (talk) 04:34, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
Population of France
According to me census data is more reliable than estimates Ktdk (talk) 02:20, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
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change "...from the from the Rhine..." to "...from the river Rhine..." on line 2 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tonovnaslednik (talk • contribs) 2020-10-09 06:59:59 (UTC)
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103.84.36.118 (talk) 19:29, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. JTP (talk • contribs) 19:39, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
Locked??
Any actual good reason why this page is locked or is it just another power grab by the elite? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 36.11.224.161 (talk) 01:30, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
GDP ranking
Since two years France’s economy is the fifth largest by GDP. Suspiciously, on this page this is never corrected. It is claimed that France is the seventh but no source are used.
Source for France as the fifth largest by GDP: https://www.focus-economics.com/countries/france https://countryeconomy.com/gdp/france — Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.166.201.98 (talk) 10:49, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
Emblem
The emblem currently used in this article have been here since revision 912289071 [1]. I could not find an official usage of the said emblem from the last decade, however the Diplomatic emblem of France is currently used in somewhat of an official capacity, for example on French passports and the Elysee. My understanding is that there is no official emblem or COA defined in current French constitution or French law.
I was not able to find a consensus for said change from the diplomatic emblem to the emblem currently listed on the page, and I propose we change the emblem in the infobox back to the diplomatic emblem. -Emphrase (talk) 15:01, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
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