Talk:Ger (Hasidic dynasty)

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Is there a specific reason why the link to a picture of a spodik (from the article on Rabbi Isaac Hutner) was removed? Should I write a short entry about what a spodik is, and then link it to the picture of Rabbi Isaac Hutner, and then link the whole spodik article to this article on Ger?

Similarly, would it be inappropriate (or too much detail) to write further about the Ger Hasidim's distinctive hat (an everyday hat, not a Spodik), as well as provide a picture of it?

Those sound interesting, please do add them. SF2K1

gerrer wedding videos

i have some gerrer wedding videos that i would like to post links to. the link is http://youtube.com/watch?v=owi6tzww-0Q. do you all think this would be an appropriate video to post? let me know. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.64.143.32 (talk) 21:02, 16 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Vandal

Some vandal is constantly reverting all my edits and additions on this page.Ortho 03:34, 9 February 2006 (UTC) Now its starting in the Yisrael Alter page as well. Some of my edits are clearly needed and this is clear vandalism. Someone please help I'm unfamiliar with the procedureOrtho 05:14, 10 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Okay now he got better and erased only what was offensive to him and replaced it by the paragraph entitled "Emphasis on Purity and Holiness". I concede to that title and to some of the material therein but most of it is not appropriate for Wikipedia. The fact that "It is very hard to describe how this was done. Only the people that had the Zchus (privilege & merit) to meet with him personally can truly understand this" is no reason to hold back the extremely interesting and noteworthy information that I posted. To be sure - any article anywere, much more so in an encyclopedia, about another foreign culture will never enable the reader to truly or fully understand that culture. Nevertheless the facts should still be available. Anyone interested in some very interesting facts about Ger should just go to "history" and see my latest edit that has since been erased.Ortho 23:57, 11 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

portions often removed by vandal

Unlike other Hassidim, Gerrer Hassidim are known to pray very quickly, so they have more time to study Talmud. In the middle of Sabbath prayers, Gerrer Hassidim take a break from praying to study.

Emphasis on Purity and Holiness

The Bais Yisroel Z"L who was the 5th Gerrer Rebbe emphasized the portions of the Torah that deals with being holy and pure. He left a great impression on all walks of life that came in contact with him and was highly respected by all chasidic circles. His idea was to elevate every person to somehow become one level higher than his present state. There are countless stories from individuals (Chasidim and NON Chasidim) who met the Rebbe, which relate how he had a tremendous spiritual impact on them and how this strong impression will never leave them. What makes this even more impressive is that many of these encounters with the Rebbe were for a very short period of time.

Ger is by far the most restrictive of all Hasidic sects regarding sexual matters, allowing marital sex only once a month and without any foreplay even a simple hug or kiss. The Beis Yisrael is responsible for reinforcing these restrictions in Ger post WWII with great effort and amidst opposition from others outside Ger such as Rabbi Yaakov Yisrael Kanievsky the Steipler Gaon.

Gerrer Hasidim do not walk in the street with their wives side by side rather she walks four cubits behind him. A Gerrer hasid will not utter the word "wife" rather he will say "bei mir in shtib" or "bei dir in shtib" ("in my house" or "in your house" respectively). (There are but a few sources in the Talmud that allude to such a way of speaking.)Itzik18 07:29, 24 February 2006 (UTC) as well as a link to a video clipItzik18 07:29, 24 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Where in the world are you getting this: I have some Ger relatives and frankly the above is bunch of crap - their sexual relations would be similar to most religious Jews (remember it is a Mitvah to provide sexual happiness to one's wife), and this business of once a month and holes in the sheet comes from holes in the head@Incorrect 04:13, 18 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've been told the same things by other Hasidim--not the hole in the sheet (definitely a myth), but that Ger is extremely restrictive about sexuality and that they don't talk about their wives. I've also been told, however, that things are loosening slightly now as Ger women are not willing to put up with only having sex once a month. If this is an urban legend it is one with a lot of currency within the Hasidic community. Alexisr 19:50, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

http://www.haaretz.com/weekend/week-s-end/for-members-of-israel-s-ultra-orthodox-gur-sect-sex-is-a-sin-1.412153

Contradiction in article

In the section "Distribution of Gerrer Hasidim" it says "Rabbi Avraham Mordechai Alter, who managed to escape, set about the task of rebuilding the movement in the British Mandate of Palestine" and in section "The 5th Gerrer Rebbe" it says "The Beis Yisrael ... rebuilt Ger after its virtual destruction in World War II". This seems contradictory and should be decided or clarified. Debresser (talk) 23:48, 4 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Abuse

This article is about a Hassidic group that has had 7 Rebbes over the generations. These allegations are against one out of those 7 Rebbe's 9 children. Furthermore, the only source of these allegations is an Haaretz article which relies on a supposedly anonymous victim. There was never a police report or an investigation to corroborate it. Considering that Haaretz has been accused of being anti-Haredi and that there is Gerrer Opposition with motive to malign and besmirch the Gerrers and their leader, these allegations certainly appear to be highly questionable. Since these allegations aren't very relevant or corroborated and have not even received notable coverage (other then Haaretz - the additional citation quotes Haaretz) then why are they given a section on this wikipedia page? Wikipedia isn't a gossip section in a tabloid.--Steamboat2020 (talk) 16:06, 16 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

ping: User:Smntstatus--Steamboat2020 (talk) 16:32, 16 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Kehilas Pnei Menachem

I added referenced info regarding the size of the breakaway group compared to the mainstream faction--Steamboat2020 (talk) 13:47, 10 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

ping @Ibadibam and @Intellectual Person--Steamboat2020 (talk) 14:09, 10 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think that is the right thing to put in numbers of families, but even of you think it is, the number of 100,000 families is for sure not accurate, as the official telephone book doesn't have more than 10,000 families which include the families of Rabbi Shaul Alter's families. I could send you in an private the telephone book.--Intellectual Person (talk) 15:33, 10 November 2021 (UTC) By the way is this an accurate way of writing in Wikipedia, 500 families versus 100,000 people. It should be 800 families versus 10,000 families, or 8,000 people versus 100,000 people.--Intellectual Person (talk) 15:39, 10 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]