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'The elections were followed by series of violent incidents in the north-western parts of Macedonia by the Albanian minority, which has national majority in those parts of Macedonia, while in the other parts of Macedonia, the elections were followed in peaceful, fair and democratic atmosphere.'

Did we want to get any more biased? Having neither a preference to the Albanians nor the Macedonians, I can look at it from a reasonably neutral viewpoint and assess there is clear and superseding partiality. Perhaps, if this article is acceptable, we should allow ethnic Serbs to write the Kosovo articles and give Chechnyans the controls to our article on Russia? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.152.139.128 (talk) 22:02, 6 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Proves??

It is ethnically based, claiming that "the party's goals and objectives express the tradition of the Macedonian people on whose political struggle and concepts it is based."

The source provided from vmro-dpmne page doesnt provide information that the party is ethnically based and there is no third party source.

I propose that this sentence should be removed till there is provided source of that information. --Daci92 (talk) 23:57, 14 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed merge with Youth Force Union of the VMRO – DPMNE

The article doesn't seem to have sources to verify its notability. Phill24th (talk) 13:17, 6 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose, large youth organization, with two decades of history. A quick google search gives plenty of leads as to where to start to find references for verification and expansion. --Soman (talk) 15:00, 6 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support: Both articles are very short, so that article can be integrated easily as a section of this article. --RJFF (talk) 13:38, 7 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support, per RJFF. Charles Essie (talk) 03:01, 13 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Done

Requested move 1 July 2016

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Moved. EdJohnston (talk) 20:48, 26 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Internal Macedonian Revolutionary Organization – Democratic Party for Macedonian National Unity → VMRO-DPMNE – The political party is predominantly known by its abbreviation, VMRO-DPMNE. Too long of a title to list full name. See official page. Zoupan 23:38, 1 July 2016 (UTC) --Relisting. Anarchyte (work | talk) 13:12, 12 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Support. On Highbeam for the past two years, there is one example of the current title compared to 37 examples of the proposed title. The latter group includes several AP articles. Gulangyu (talk) 04:26, 13 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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"leading a policy"

We're told "the party has been leading a pro-European and pro-NATO policy". "Leading a policy" is incorrect English - presumably this should have read "pursuing a pro-European and pro-NATO policy", or something else. Looks as if the article wasn't written by a native speaker of English.178.197.231.247 (talk) 11:30, 30 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Loss of seats in the Parliament

@Jingiby:, I am glad for these updates on infobox: [1] however, I was wondering if can we create a new, Prespa Agreement-related section regarding the party and its MPs, where readers can be informed about the defection of its MPs from the party's ranks? --👧🏻 SilentResident 👧🏻 ^{(talk ✉️ | contribs 📝)} 11:37, 6 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

User:SilentResident, I am not sure if that will be encyclopedic content/info. Most probably such details are redundant trivia. Regards. Jingiby (talk) 13:21, 6 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Request to change

Shouldn’t VMRO-DPMNE be far right? After all, it was the party responsible for Skopje 2014 and other actions that provoked Greece, Bulgaria, and Albania. It was also responsible for airing the “Macedonian Prayer” short film on Macedonian state TV, and has ties with the World Macedonian Congress, an organization whose platform is annexing “Aegean Macedonia” (in Greece) and “Pirin Macedonia” (in Bulgaria) and create a greater Macedonian state with a coastline and Thessaloniki as its capital. Blacklister3000 (talk) 05:49, 11 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Antiquization

The section on the party's ideologies in the infobox lists the so-called "antiquization". This is correct but it is now a party's former ideology considering that the term was coined to refer specifically to the identity policies conducted while the party led the government from 2006 to 2017. Moreover, the term is commonly associated with the former Prime Minister Nikola Gruevski who is no longer party's president. I think it is reasonable to list it as a historical ideology because there is no evidence that the party's new leadership intends to continue these policies once the party returns to power.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 09:44, 30 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Kiril Simeonovski, I have found some sources claiming this policy has continued but they are not reliable in this respect (pro-Bulgarian news site Татковина in Macedonian), so you are right. Jingiby (talk) 10:54, 30 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion of the opinion of Georgievski.

I do not understand why the opinion of Georgievski, who is the party's founder, its chairman for many years and former prime minister and vice president of the country, is being removed. His opinion is supported by a verifiable source and any allegations of propaganda are unfounded. Jingiby (talk) 18:38, 6 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Because what he says is false and it is propaganda get consensus first before calling someone that brakes the rules That clearly has different opinion then you this article is biased