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Foul fowl taxonomy?

Perhaps I have missed something in the world of chicken taxonomy, but [1] how is this edit correct? @User:The Great Mule of Eupatoria? See also [2]. I know y'all here are generally better taxonomists than I, so a second look would be appreciated. CaptainEek ^{Edits Ho Cap'n!}⚓ 18:39, 3 April 2022 (UTC)

Indeed. These edits would depend on the domesticated chicken (Gallus gallus domesticus), currently considered as a subspecies of the red junglefowl (Gallus gallus) being elevated to a separate species (Gallus domesticus). This is not supported by the ref provided (!!), nor does it appear to be adopted in any recent use (see Google scholar search for last two years). As such, these edits should be reverted pending a demonstration of their published scientific acceptance. Loopy30 (talk) 22:28, 3 April 2022 (UTC)

Hello! I based my conclusion off several articles, https://bmcbiol.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12915-020-0738-1 this for example that states the existence of hybridisation with grey and Ceylon junglefowl alongside the wild red junglefowl. I have fixed my ref accordingly The Great Mule of Eupatoria (talk) 01:26, 4 April 2022 (UTC)

The Great Mule of Eupatoria, your own source (correctly) uses the subspecies Gallus gallus domesticus when it opens. Interspecies hybridization events that result in other species and subspecies are accepted speciation events, and thus the name for domestic chickens reflects this Gallus gallus domesticus.--Kevmin § 02:44, 4 April 2022 (UTC)

I see. It seems I was incorrect here, so I will be reverting my edits if they have not been already The Great Mule of Eupatoria (talk) 03:05, 4 April 2022 (UTC)

A bunch of unsourced (but not unsourcable) content removed from Budgerigar today...

See the edits here. I don't think I'll have time to do anything today, but thought I'd mention it before I forget. Most of this stuff that the person removed is broadly correct (from my knowledge of budgies) and is probably sourcable with a bit of time. Anyone fancy helping out? --Iloveparrots (talk) 08:53, 5 April 2022 (UTC)

Watchlist needed

Can you guys at least watchlist these 2 featured articles, peregrine falcon and bald eagle? Some people keep adding bad sources and no one reverted it, and the bald eagle article looks like it has a lot of unnecessary stuff added like this: [3]. OnlyFixingProse (talk) 11:22, 5 April 2022 (UTC)

North America?

In wikipedia, when we refer to North America, are we talking about North America north of Mexico, like it is in many bird checklists, or how are we defining it? Aythya affinis (talk) 14:41, 12 April 2022 (UTC)

It should apply to the continent unless it specifically says otherwise (e.g. refers to a checklist). What examples are you thinking of? —  Jts1882 | talk  15:11, 12 April 2022 (UTC)

I was just clarifying, since the use of North America in bird checklists differs from the everyday use of the term. Thanks. Aythya affinis (talk) 15:19, 12 April 2022 (UTC)

The North American bird list incldes Mexico, all of Central America, and most of the Caribbean Islands, as well as the US and Canada....Pvmoutside (talk) 01:48, 14 April 2022 (UTC)

I meant bird checklists such as from official organizations like the ABA, not the Wikipedia list. Aythya affinis (talk) 13:18, 14 April 2022 (UTC)

Takahē vs South Island takahe

For anyone interested, there is a discussion to change the name of the South Island takahe to the takahe....Pvmoutside (talk) 01:43, 14 April 2022 (UTC)