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Added a citation to the Introduction

I added a citation to the Introduction as they referenced the debate on the construction of Gender, wether it be a social Construct or Biological one, but the statement lacked evidence. I referenced Sexing the Body by Anne Fausto-Sterling, hopefully she is a proper source. I feel the rest of the article is lacking content in some sections, and is in dire need of more citations. I will come back to the other sections and see if I can add relevant academic based sources. AlexEdmonds ([User talk:AlexEdmonds|talk]]) 20:11, 20 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Interested in editing this article

I am interested in editing this article -- finding and validating references, etc. I will get to it, time permitting. In the meantime, if you have ideas or questions, please feel free to message me. HiTrish (talk) 18:18, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Just curious why the article states, "Violence is about power, control, and domination" and then only talks about physical violence. The article then goes on to state that the media glamorizes violence against women, which I guess is true if all power, control, or domination can only be demonstrated in a physical way. Otherwise we'd have to discuss the way in which the media reflects and glamorizes violence perpetrated against men especially in terms of divorce. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.230.63.52 (talk) 16:07, 15 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Find some sociology articles or other reliable sources that say this about divorce, and it would be considered. I've never seen any such articles. Even if they exist, they'd be WP:FRINGE. EvergreenFir (talk) 00:24, 16 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Antifeminist theory?

Regarding this edit: Is there an "anti-feminist theory" in sociology? If so, I've never heard of it, or its relation to gender. EvergreenFir (talk) 03:33, 18 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Civatrope: AFAIK, "antifeminist theory" isn't a thing. You cited Harding about strong objectivity, which is what she talks about. But what you need to cite is what supposed "antifeminist theorists" say about it, not that it exists and what Harding says about it. Again, I've never ever heard of "antifeminist theory". There is no page for it on Wikipedia. You need to establish that it even exists before mentioning it here. Quite frankly, your edits appear to be your own ideas. EvergreenFir (talk) 05:48, 18 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Interest in editing this article

I am interested in editing this article and doing further research into the sociology of gender. I have compiled a couple sources that I believe will give me insight to the information I require to conduct proper research. One of the sources I chose to use is a acamdemic journal and summary called "Theory on Gender/Feminism on Theory".^[1] With this journal and the other sources I have chosen I will be inserting factual as well as opinionated research into both sociology and gender. I will try to approach but subjects from their respective angles but ultimately diagnose the subject as a whole.

Bib:

Rosenfeld, Rachel A. "Theory on Gender/Feminism on Theory." Social Forces 72.1 (1993): 285+. Opposing Viewpoints in Context. Web. 23 Feb. 2016

Hu, Alice. "Gender equality and the United Nations: an interview with Nafis Sadik." Harvard International Review 37.1 (2015): 55+. Opposing Viewpoints in Context. Web. 23 Feb. 2016.

Neitz, Mary Jo. "Becoming Visible: Religion And Gender In Sociology." Sociology Of Religion 75.4 (2014): 511-523. Academic Search Complete. Web. 23 Feb. 2016. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Reste023 (talk • contribs) 01:51, 24 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Reste023: Rene, although this is a fascinating topic, I do not think you should edit the sociology of gender. As I've said several times in the course, your task is to find a stub article with very little written on it. You will have an extremely hard time adding useful content to this Wikipedia page. Please find a different topic to edit. Alfgarciamora (talk) 13:28, 24 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Rosenfeld, Rachel A. "Theory on Gender/Feminism on Theory." Social Forces 72.1 (1993): 285+. Opposing Viewpoints in Context. Web. 23 Feb. 2016

The Lead needs a rewrite.

The Lead paragraph needs a rewrite. The Lead should be a summary of what the article is about, and should not contain any new information not already present in more detail in the article.

I've shortened the Lead considerably, moving most of it into a new, Introduction section, but what remains of the rump Lead paragraph still has material not contained in the article. The Lead should be entirely rewritten as a proper summary of the article. Please see WP:LEAD for guidelines. Mathglot (talk) 22:39, 18 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Developing the Family Section

I am a student in a Women and Gender Studies course and I am interested in editing this article for my class. I have added a few sentences in the Family section, since it previously only consisted of a link to a different article. In order to make this contribution, I cited a source entitled, "Parental Influence on Children's Socialization to Gender Roles". I feel that family's influence on gender socialization is an important aspect of the sociology of gender that is currently not equally represented in this article. Fiktpihfystl29 (talk) 15:49, 25 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Gender and Socialization Contribution

I am planning to contribute to the '"Gender and socialization" section of this article. I would also like to relocate the "Family" section, seeing as this type of information is included in the "Gender and socialization" section as well as the "Gender and psychoanalysis" section. My plan is to add some general information about gender socialization in childhood from more modern studies than those cited in "Gender and socialization", including analysis of parental and sibling influence on gender roles.^[1] I also intend to add information from modern studies on atypical households and the effects that these environments can have on a child's view of gender.^[2]^[3] There are also relevant studies that I would like to include regarding children's media and how these outlets reinforce normative gender ideas that are often taught within the home. ^[4]

If anyone has any suggestions, comments, or concerns regarding this contribution, please let me know.Fiktpihfystl29 (talk) 16:58, 15 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Endendijk, Joyce J. (February 2013). "Gender Stereotypes in the Family Context: Mothers, Fathers, and Siblings". Sex Roles. 68: 577–590.
^ Tidwell, Jada Annette. “Gender Development in Children with Atypical Parental Socialization: An Example of Lesbian Feminist Mothers.” Georgia State University, US: ProQuest Information & Learning, 2002.
^ Goldberg, Abbie E. (November 2012). "Gender Typed Play Behavior in Early Childhood: Adopted Children with Lesbian, Gay, and Heterosexual Parents". Sex Roles. 67: 503–515 – via EBSCO.
^ McCabe, Janice (2011). "Gender in Twentieth- Century Children's Books". Gender and Sociology. 25: 197–226.

Gender roles

This article could be called sociology of gender roles and not sociology of gender. Because how gender article explains gender as a much broader generality between roles, identity and expression, while gender roles refers in particular to the learning of social norms. However, I also have an objection to this definition of gender, because if gender includes gender roles, ¿what are gender roles really? From my point of view that if we understand gender as a social construction, we must understand its socialization as an interiorization of certain social expectations about what it is, and not as learning about what toy girls and boys carry or as a feeling as proposed by the original idea of gender identity. Gender identity is assumed because during socialization certain ideas of femininity or masculinity are transgressive or affirmative, respectively. So, for example, I can be a cis woman and feel comfortable with masculinity, but it would still be a transgressor for me and for society. I can also be a transgender woman and that femininity is affirmative to me but I still have a masculine gender expression. Or vice versa in the case of men, that femininity is transgressive for them because they internalized masculine expectations. The gender dysphoria exists precisely as a result of this, that being a woman society can perceive us as men, and that even being women we were raised with the idea that we belong to our gender assigned, similar to the david-raymer case, and it is something that trans people always experience. Being transgender is that if you were assigned a woman and you are not a woman, you are trans. If you were assigned a man and you are not a man, you are trans. That your gender does not match the assigned one, come on. And the testimonies of trans people agree with this. While the generated (what makes you a man or a woman) would be this. Biological sexuation or sex would be something real (And for this HRT exist), however, this does not mean that the ideas of masculinity or femininity derive from it. No one denies, for example, that a trans woman can have a penis if she hasn't had surgery, but rather that terms are harmful, that they define my anatomy and sexual characteristics as wholly "male". While gender roles are how society perceives that we should perform certain activities because of our gender. 191.113.80.25 (talk) 18:44, 20 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Rosenfeld, Rachel A. "Theory on Gender/Feminism on Theory." Social Forces 72.1 (1993): 285+. Opposing Viewpoints in Context. Web. 23 Feb. 2016

[2] Endendijk, Joyce J. (February 2013). "Gender Stereotypes in the Family Context: Mothers, Fathers, and Siblings". Sex Roles. 68: 577–590.

[3] Tidwell, Jada Annette. “Gender Development in Children with Atypical Parental Socialization: An Example of Lesbian Feminist Mothers.” Georgia State University, US: ProQuest Information & Learning, 2002.

[4] Goldberg, Abbie E. (November 2012). "Gender Typed Play Behavior in Early Childhood: Adopted Children with Lesbian, Gay, and Heterosexual Parents". Sex Roles. 67: 503–515 – via EBSCO.

[5] McCabe, Janice (2011). "Gender in Twentieth- Century Children's Books". Gender and Sociology. 25: 197–226.

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