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references section very lengthy

The references on this topic are going to get very lengthy. The topic badly needs to be split into sub-topics on women in individual professional areas. --Lquilter (talk) 17:15, 26 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Notes: Searching Amazon for "women in the professions" leads to more than 9,760 items on the topic, mostly books. [1] That's just books indexed in Amazon. The literature in journals will be, of course, incredibly lengthy. Suggestions on how to break these topics down other than by individual profession? --Lquilter (talk) 23:55, 26 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I also find the list of recommended reading, even with subheadings by occupation, too lengthy. Each occupation's list would be better moved to a separate article on that particular topic -- Women in engineering, Women in philosophy, etc. In my opinion, anyway. OttawaAC (talk) 04:15, 26 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

sections for this article

I started this article with a brief summary at the top, but doing a cursory review of the literature has suggested some sections for the article.

  • Individual professional areas - Probably all need to be separate articles
  • History of gendered role division; cultural-specific issues
  • Legal workplace discrimination issues; glass ceiling - Women's workplace discrimination law; frankly this is at least a separate article, ultimately, but for now can be a subsection of this article
  • Women & mentoring - the "old boys network" issues which have been addressed in the literature with a lot of discussion of women's mentoring networks (among other things)
  • "Second Shift" & "Mommy track" & "Work-life balance" - Women in the workplace balancing family and work issues; the imbroglio of the NYT's "dropping out" series; gendering of this issue (male work-life balance) etc.
  • Influence on family and medical leave policy -- FMLA, etc.
  • Influence on workplace codes of conduct; sexual harassment laws; First Amendment backlash
  • Relation of gendering with "professionalization" and profession studies; see., e.g., nursing, teaching, librarianship, as gendered professions; transition of professions from male to female (librarianship) leading to feminization of professions, lower pay, etc.
  • wage gap discussion

There are lots of other sub-topics to women in the workforce. Thoughts on how to arrange, and other missing subtopics? --Lquilter (talk) 18:04, 26 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The "Women's participation in different occupations" section needs to be converted into a navigation template (preferably footer style). Kaldari (talk) 22:20, 6 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Bad stats

I've removed this:

The Girls Global Education Fund estimates that this situation actually worsened over the last half of the twentieth century, finding that in 1950 there were 38 million more boys than girls enrolled in secondary education, but by 1998 there were 82 million more boys than girls.<ref>Factsheet: The Status of Women and Girls, Girls Global Education Fund, referencing New York Times Oct. 1998.</ref>

because it's bad statistical work. Yes: the number of excess males enrolled has about doubled. However, the world's population more than doubled during that time, so what this means is that the situation has actually stayed the same. WhatamIdoing (talk) 00:01, 24 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Sorry for the tardy response. Two points: (1) I'm not putting the statistic back in, but it may also have been poorly phrased. For instance, "worsened" might mean simply by sheer numbers, rather than by percentage; the phrasing suggests percentage is more appropriate, but that might have been in-apt phrasing on the part of the wikipedia editor, not the GGEF. (2) Analyzing the merits of the research is obviously original research. Ahem. --Lquilter 12:43, 6 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Focus is on developed countries, too "Global North"

The focus is definitely on working women in developed economies, that is, the United States and to a lesser degree Western Europe. Alas, that's a small fraction of the world's working women (despite the dollars earned). Some decent info on the rest of the globe would be appropriate. I'll try to add more info on women earning a living outside of the Western economies, would love to see others add information too. OttawaAC (talk) 04:15, 26 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Is it true....

that in the USA the graduation rate of women is higher (@60%) than men....? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.91.225.75 (talk) 03:38, 1 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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I added a source about workplace discrimination of female. This article is a good explanation of women's inequalities in the workplace. "THE DISRUPTERS. By: KOLHATKAR, SHEELAH, New Yorker, 0028792X, 11/20/2017, Vol. 93, Issue 37"Mengrui Li (talk) 21:33, 10 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Split out bibliography to a separate article?

This article's bibliography is huge—the longest I've seen. It may be time to WP:SPLITOUT the bibliography to a separate article, like the other bibliography articles in Wikipedia:List of bibliographies? Biogeographist (talk) 17:52, 28 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

American figure in the introduction

"In 2017 there are around 74.6 million women in the civilian labor force[4]."

What is the interest of having this passage in the introduction? This figure is about the US's female workforce not worldwide. As such, it should be removed.

176.158.146.38 (talk) 19:06, 7 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion discussion for related, duplicate article

Recently a duplicate page, Women in the Workforce was created that seems redundant to this article, Women in the workforce. An AfD discussion is being held here: View AfD. AnandaBliss (talk) 21:51, 16 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

When was the pre-modern era? I couldn't find a definition online.

This is of course because of the problem added in 2020. Oakime (talk) 17:43, 28 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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