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Former good articleNorthern Ireland was one of the Geography and places good articles, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the good article criteria. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
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DateProcessResult
December 16, 2005Good article nomineeListed
September 7, 2006Peer reviewReviewed
September 19, 2007Good article reassessmentDelisted
Current status: Delisted good article

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Status of Northern Ireland is officially "province" according to ISO but also,"Part" of the UK and "country"

  • "Part of the United Kingdom", according to the Good Friday Agreement.[1]
  • "Part of the UK" according to the Northern Ireland government website.[2]
  • "Province" according to the UK government Toponymic guidelines.[3]
  • "Province" according to ISO country codes.[4]
  • Found one reference to "country" also.[5]

This needs to be updated on this page according to these current (non-archived)and official sources. Will update citations in the article but will not make major change to definition.Titus Gold (talk) 01:58, 3 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The intro shouldn't not be changed, without a consensus. GoodDay (talk) 02:08, 3 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Was only a minor change but fair enough. Consensus to remove the term "region" because it doesn't seem to be used officially at all (but obviously keep terms province and country) and replace the citations with [6][7][8] ? Titus Gold (talk) 02:10, 3 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Leave 'province' out of the infobox. GoodDay (talk) 02:12, 3 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose any change to the stable status quo. RWB2020 (talk) 10:10, 3 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@GoodDay ok will leave out of infobox. Titus Gold (talk) 12:29, 3 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ The Belfast agreement (PDF).
  2. ^ "About Northern Ireland | nidirect". www.nidirect.gov.uk. 2015-11-30. Retrieved 2022-09-02.
  3. ^ "Toponymic guidelines for map and other editors, United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland". GOV.UK. Retrieved 2022-09-02.
  4. ^ "ISO 3166 — Codes for the representation of names of countries and their subdivisions". www.iso.org. Retrieved 2022-09-03.
  5. ^ "Northern Ireland".
  6. ^ "Toponymic guidelines for map and other editors, United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland". GOV.UK. Retrieved 2022-09-02.
  7. ^ "ISO 3166 — Codes for the representation of names of countries and their subdivisions". www.iso.org. Retrieved 2022-09-03.
  8. ^ "Northern Ireland".

Constituent unit?

Why do we have "constituent unit" in the infobox? We don't have it in the infoboxes at the England, Wales & Scotland pages. GoodDay (talk) 02:43, 4 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Religion

It would be a good idea to add the line 'When Northern Ireland was created, it had a Protestant majority of approximately two-to-one,[1][2][3] unlike the Republic of Ireland, where Catholics were in the majority.[4]' from the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demography_of_Northern_Ireland article at the very start of the religion section to provide more context for the recent census result. 80.44.13.37 (talk) 09:47, 30 September 2022 (UTC) 80.44.13.37 (talk) 09:47, 30 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ Anderson, James; Shuttleworth, Ian (1998). "Sectarian demography, territoriality and political development in Northern Ireland". Political Geography. 17 (2): 187–208. doi:10.1016/S0962-6298(97)00035-8. ISSN 0962-6298. PMID 12348611.
  2. ^ Specia, Megan; O’Loughlin, Ed (22 September 2022). "Catholics Outnumber Protestants in Northern Ireland for the First Time" – via NYTimes.com.
  3. ^ Cooley, Laurence (30 August 2021). "Census politics in Northern Ireland from the Good Friday Agreement to Brexit: Beyond the 'sectarian headcount'?". The British Journal of Politics and International Relations. 23 (3): 451–470. doi:10.1177/1369148120959045 – via DOI.org (Crossref).
  4. ^ "More Catholics than Protestants in Northern Ireland for first time, census finds". The Irish Times.
 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. Goldsztajn (talk) 12:34, 14 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

NI most commonly referred to as country

Northern Ireland is most commonly referred to as a country of the United Kingdom, even by the officials in Westminster. Should we change the introduction of Northern Ireland to country that is part of the United Kingdom but alternatively described as a province or region"? I feel like it would be more appropriate as it is the most commonly referred. MicroSupporter (talk) 19:33, 14 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Why does it matter? Northern Ireland is a subdivision of the United Kingdom, just like Wales, Scotland and England. It does not have significantly less privileges. The word country in the British sense here does not mean an independent or sovereign state, but only a certain kind of region. The US calls them states, Germany calls them Land/Länder (the word is the same in German for country/countries. So Bavaria is a Land. Kanada ist ein Land).
In official parlance, it is usually referred to as a province:
https://www.parliament.uk/business/lords/media-centre/house-of-lords-media-notices/2021/june-2021/has-the-protocol-on-ireland-northern-ireland-been-a-contributory-factor-to-the-recent-community-disturbances-in-the-province/ Georgephilippe (talk) 23:01, 26 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request

Can anyone replace the Ulster Banner with the Tudor Crown with the one with the St Edward's Crown (as the latter is the one used in the majority of the other articles)? 177.76.145.165 (talk) 00:35, 25 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{Edit protected}} template. —Sirdog (talk) 01:13, 31 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

RfC

What Ulster Banner should be put in this article?

  • A: The one with the Tudor Crown (current).
  • B: The one with the St Edward's Crown (most recent and used in more articles).

191.9.63.220 (talk) 02:44, 31 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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