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Semi-protected edit request on 23 September 2022

Revert Planetjanet's Sept 23 removal of "gusano" from list of ethnic Cuban slurs. While the removal was because justified as it being a "political slur", it is a slur that refers to one of a specific ethnicity.

The initial edit was immediately following a large Discord community being criticized for using "gusano" derogatorily.

Removed content is below:

Gusano
Cuban exiles. The term was coined by Fidel Castro, who called Cubans leaving in the Freedom Flights gusanos ('worms') and insisted the Cuban exiles were capitalists who had profited during the pre-Castro era.[1] 2600:4040:F118:E200:DD36:42A5:8CC:52E1 (talk) 17:49, 23 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

PlanetJanet's justification for removing Gusano was to "see discussion on Talk page archive 2." Just so we are clear, there was no discussion on page 2 of the archive. There was one person saying it should be removed nearly 10 months ago and nobody responding to him. Pretty dishonest to call that a discussion. I support semiprotecting the page and examining any account that wants to remove "Gusano" for potential socketpuppet and brigading activity. They are actively trying to protect a streamer and community who use slurs like shitskin, shitdick, Gusano and cracker. These aren't the values represented by wikipedia. 63.155.103.206 (talk) 19:49, 23 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I could take it or leave it. Calling someone a worm is a bit of a generic insult as well. If a couple of people do not like it, then take it out. If you can establish some consensus that it should be on the list, then great, put it back. Good luck with that. I have had several discussions where I disagreed about some word someone wanted to remove or add and they would not change their mind about and despite there being 533 people watching this page and 3,900 watching List of ethnic slurs, nobody chimed in with a support or oppose. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 05:02, 24 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
It is similar to calling black people apes/monkeys and calling Jews pigs. Long history of degrading people's ethnicity/race by comparing them to animals.63.155.103.206 (talk) 09:00, 24 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comparing ethnic groups to lower life forms is a common trope amongst racial slurs. If anything I would say the usage of such a comparison bolsters the claim of it being a racial slur, if anything. 50.47.83.158 (talk) 17:55, 24 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
It is on par with calling Rwandan/Tutsi expats "inyenzi". You're calling people vermin. It's a slur. Cope. 124.148.79.87 (talk) 23:53, 24 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Isn't the fact we have a large community of thousands of people using the word towards an ethnic Cuban as a slur simply due to his family ethnic background (Destiny was born in America and has nothing to do with Cubans from Cuba) itself proof of the word being a slur which deserves being on the list. PlanetJanet is literally trying to retroactively justify that behaviour. --50.72.78.42 (talk) 08:38, 24 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see a large community editing this page, so it isn't particularly relevant to this talk page. It's just one user and thus far they haven't broken any rules. It is however against the rules to cast aspersions on the actions of other users. Please WP:AGF. Cakelot1 (talk) 09:24, 24 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I don't understand what you mean by a large community not being particularly relevant to this talk page. If communities of tens of thousands (31,000 online on Discord alone) of people using it as a slur against someone because he is Cuban doesn't count as relevant or make it count as an ethnic slur, how many people need to use it for it to be considered an ethnic slur? Note that that edit happened IMMEDIATELY after Destiny, the person on the receiving end, called for the word to be reported in their discord for racism; which is against Discord's TOS. The owner of the Discord in question banned the word too. All of this at the same time that PlanetJanet deleted the word from List_of_ethnic_slurs.
https://dotesports.com/streaming/news/destiny-lobs-racism-accusations-at-hasans-discord-reigniting-feud-between-streaming-rivals Frog Bat Good (talk) 23:00, 24 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ Aguirre, B.E. (1994). "Cuban Mass Migration and the Social Construction of Deviants". Bulletin of Latin American Research. 13 (2): 155–183. doi:10.2307/3338273. JSTOR 3338273.
 Already done Aaron Liu (talk) 14:17, 22 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Gusano

Just as an outside observer, the amount of discussion on this one entry has gone beyond any sane limit. Maybe all y'all should step back for a few days. CAVincent (talk) 07:20, 26 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You may not know about the streamer drama, but the fans of a certain intelligent streamer are raiding this article. Also please do not use the word "y'all" Tisthefirstletter (talk) 05:12, 7 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Tisthefirstletter: What's wrong with y'all? It's a fairly common word in most dialects. I'm also not familiar with streamer drama, but are you willing to link to reliable sources that have provided coverage of it that establish the use of the term as-is in this list? — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 04:54, 19 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 14 November 2022

Add

Oyinbo: A Yoruba word for white people, used by Nigerians, literally translates to "peeled skin" 14.202.18.173 (talk) 08:46, 14 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 10:22, 14 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 27 November 2022

Add the word "Spanitard" which is a mix of "Spaniard'"and "Retard". Dwagr (talk) 16:11, 27 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 4 December 2022

2.3.6 Italians

   2.3.6.2 South Tyrol
       Walsche: It is used by the german speaking population of South Tyrol as a derogatory term to refer to italian speakers. It means "foreigner" and is used because South Tyrol was part to Austria until after the first world war.
       Piff/Piffke: A term used to describe germans and more specifically german tourists in South Tyrol. 80.182.240.187 (talk) 12:25, 4 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]