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Nuclear Arsenal
Have there been any reports of Xenu's enemies (Scientologists) reverse engineering Nuclear weapons for positive purposes? Such as, a non-radioactive nuclear winter in desert terrain for hydration? Trouble understanding their role in the war that led to the downfall of Xenu.. Twillisjr (talk) 04:02, 20 November 2017 (UTC)
- the question is non-sense; history of Xenu is allegoric 5.77.113.15 (talk) 21:42, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
Requested move 16 November 2019
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The result of the move request was: not moved. (non-admin closure) Colin M (talk) 21:38, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
Xenu → ? – "Xenu" is really just a person/character in the story, and it feels a bit awkward labelling the whole article by that name - a bit like calling the article Genesis creation narrative by the name "God" or "Adam". You can't say the article is about the individual person, and thus shouldn't carry his name by default. I'm not sure what to call it instead though, but a few ideas:
- "The Wall of Fire (Scientology)" or "Incident II", which is what the church internally calls the story
- "Scientology creation myth", which is not entirely accurate but they do regard it very heavily
- "Xenu story" or "Xenu narrative" or something similar, keeping with the namesake but clarifying the focus on the narrative
Thank you. Gaioa (T C L) 12:03, 16 November 2019 (UTC)
- I suggest either The Wall of Fire or Incident II. There seems to be no need to add "(Scientology)" as a disambiguation term, since there are no other topics listed on the DAB page that are called "The Wall of Fire". —BarrelProof (talk) 01:24, 19 November 2019 (UTC)
- The fact that we (at least, most of us) don't think the person exists is no bar to naming an article after him. It's true that there is a whole narrative involved, not just a single character, but Xenu is the central figure of that narrative. Most importantly, Xenu is by far the most recognizable name to the public. So in the spirit of COMMONNAME my immediate reaction is don't move.
As a side note, there is also a space opera in Scientology article, but it doesn't go into too much detail about the various "incidents"; it seems to be more at a "meta" level. I wouldn't rule out either expanding that article to include more in-universe details, or splitting out another article to handle it, and at that point it might not be completely out of the question to merge Xenu into that article. But just taking this article and giving it a more obscure name doesn't strike me as an improvement. --Trovatore (talk) 21:34, 19 November 2019 (UTC) - Oppose. Hyperbolick (talk) 21:19, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose. Xenu is the common name for the story. Mt.FijiBoiz (talk) 21:19, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
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Pocket god
In the popular culture section, I would recommend adding the fact that the video game pocket god includes a character known as “the evil alien god Xenu from beyond” who is portrayed as Squid-like 2605:8D80:524:644A:7528:C31E:111F:1938 (talk) 21:06, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
Warning?
Should there be a warning at the top stating that "if you read this article you may be subject to eternal damnation and death by pneumonia"? Flight Risk (talk) 21:15, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
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