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Q1: Why does this article state that the government of Afghanistan is the Islamic Emirate? Isn't that government unrecognized/illegitimate?
A1: Because reliable sources state that the Taliban have taken over. This determination is the result of a discussion among editors in this RfC. A new RfC (Request for Comment) will be required to change this. As an encyclopedia, Wikipedia reflects reliable sources, which may not align with editors' own views on the matter. The threshold for inclusion of material in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth. Wikipedia is not a place to right great wrongs, such as by determining and advocating the rightful government of a country based on international law. Q2: The flag is wrong!
A2: Since the sole current government of Afghanistan is that of the Taliban, consensus in this RfC is to identify the current flag of Afghanistan as that of the Taliban. A new RfC (Request for Comment) will be required to change this. Q3: Why is Afghanistan listed as being in both Central and South Asia? It belongs to only one of those!
A3: Different reliable sources include Afghanistan in either one macroregion, or the other (or in both) depending on the field of study and the perspective taken. This has been discussed many times before. |
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Calendar in use since Taleban took over
Given that the Taleban is a Sunni sect, it seems most unlikely that the Iranian (Shia) Solar Hijri calendar is still in use. Surely they have required that the Sunni Lunar Hijri calendar be used. A google search for today's date in Afghanistan returns the Lunar calendar date. Does anybody have an RS citation for the facts on the ground? 𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 19:47, 22 December 2022 (UTC)
Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 31 December 2022
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Remove the Taliban flag and replace it by the real afghan flag. 142.127.50.39 (talk) 03:21, 31 December 2022 (UTC)
- Not done: Change will against consensus, FYI: Talk:Afghanistan/FAQ Lemonaka (talk) 08:33, 31 December 2022 (UTC)
Status of Kandahar within Afghanistan
Hello everyone! I'd like to bring up the status of Kandahar since the Taliban took over. Because Kandahar is the historical base of the Taliban, many of the institutions of Taliban power are in the city (crucially the Leadership Council and the Supreme Leader himself). Given this, shouldn't Kandahar's position as the locus of real political power in Afghanistan be recognized somewhere, such as in the infobox? Obviously Kabul is the official capital, but it sure seems like the real political power is concentrated in Kandahar. Inspector Semenych (talk) 01:07, 2 January 2023 (UTC)
- Is there a reliable source that discusses this? CMD (talk) 13:23, 2 January 2023 (UTC)
- This article by the US Institute of Peace includes this section on the situation:
- "Who is really in charge of the Taliban’s Islamic Emirate? What is the role of the emir?
- For the first six months of their rule, it appeared as if the cabinet, chaired by the prime minister’s office, would shape governance policies — but ministers have been increasingly overruled on issues large and small by the emir, Sheikh Haibatullah Akhundzada, based in Kandahar. This dynamic, which is still evolving, came into public view on March 23, when the long-promised return of girls to high school was overturned by the emir at the last minute. Since then, girls’ education and other controversial issues have stalled as pragmatic Taliban leaders defer to the emir, who seeks counsel from ultraconservative Taliban clerics. Foreign diplomats have begun to describe “dueling centers of power” between Kabul- and Kandahar-based Taliban." Inspector Semenych (talk) 20:43, 2 January 2023 (UTC)
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I want to add a main article Geography of Afghanistan#Climate to the Climate section. IntegerSequences (talk | contribs) 00:59, 5 January 2023 (UTC)
- Not done: There is already a main link to the Geography article, and no separate climate article. CMD (talk) 01:26, 5 January 2023 (UTC)
Why does it state that Afghanistan is part of both Central and South Asia in this article, but in the former article it does not?
In the lead section of this article it says that Afghanistan is part of both Central Asia and South Asia, and is commonly included within Central Asia. However, it is only listed on the South Asia article instead of the Central Asia article. If Afghanistan is not included within Central Asia, then should it be removed from the lead? --Magnatyrannus (talk | contribs) 20:10, 5 January 2023 (UTC)
- Both terms are used in different contexts. Central Asia referred to the territory between Russia and the British Raj, while South Asia referred to the territory in the Indian cultural orbit. TFD (talk) 20:36, 5 January 2023 (UTC)
- True, but Afghanistan was never part of the British Raj. The sources justify that Afghanistan is in Central Asia, and that it is more often included in Central Asia than in South Asia. --Magnatyrannus (talk | contribs) 21:52, 5 January 2023 (UTC)
- No, it was between Russia and the British Raj and within the Indian cultural orbit. And while Afghanistan was never part of the Empire, it was a British protected state.
- Anyway, the way we classify countries is not by using our personal reasoning but following what is done in reliable sources. And they describe Afghanistan as being both in Southern and Central Asia.
- Ask anyone what countries lie in North America, and expect multiple answers. TFD (talk) 00:02, 6 January 2023 (UTC)
- Just want to correct here, despite it being a British protected state, it meant quite literally nothing as Afghanistan in itself was de-facto independent, and did not rely on foreign affairs which was relinquished to the British. @The Four Deuces Noorullah21 (talk) 09:06, 6 January 2023 (UTC)
- Yes, that is the definition of a protected state. So when the British saw Afghanistan as on the frontier of the Raj, it was in South Asia and when they saw it as the crossroads of Asia, it was in Central Asia. South and central are relative not absolute terms and whether a country is south or central depends on how one looks at it.
- In some contexts, N.A. means the U.S., in others Canada and the U.S., or Canada, the U.S. and Mexico, or those countries and "Central America" or they may also include offshore island nations. Different people are going to draw the lines differently. TFD (talk) 09:59, 6 January 2023 (UTC)
- Just to underline that point, see The Great Game. Perspective matters. Coming back to the original question, yes it should definitely be listed in the Central Asia article too. --𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 12:42, 6 January 2023 (UTC)
- Just want to correct here, despite it being a British protected state, it meant quite literally nothing as Afghanistan in itself was de-facto independent, and did not rely on foreign affairs which was relinquished to the British. @The Four Deuces Noorullah21 (talk) 09:06, 6 January 2023 (UTC)
- True, but Afghanistan was never part of the British Raj. The sources justify that Afghanistan is in Central Asia, and that it is more often included in Central Asia than in South Asia. --Magnatyrannus (talk | contribs) 21:52, 5 January 2023 (UTC)
The current shown white and black flag is the flag of Terrorist faction. Afghanistan's official and accepted flag is black+red+green.
As a global platform, Wikipedia must not show the flag of a Terrorist faction as Afghanistan official flag. The official and unanonemously accepted flag is black, red and green 🇦🇫🇦🇫🇦🇫🇦🇫. We kindly request wikipedia's team to be just and official-like. 23.88.196.153 (talk) 15:29, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
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