User talk:Midwestman1986
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Ok thanks for letting me know. Hope it’s ok that I remove this from my own talk page Idk.
- Yep, it's perfectly ok for you to remove posts from your talk page. The exception is that you shouldn't remove parts of a discussion, but deleting an entire discussion from your own talk page is fine. --bonadea contributions talk 15:53, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
Ok
January 2019
Hello, I'm Bellezzasolo. I wanted to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions to Tom Watson (golfer) have been undone because they did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you have any questions, you can ask for assistance at the Help Desk. Please don't remove infoboxes without discussion on the Talk page ∰Bellezzasolo✡ Discuss 21:10, 10 January 2019 (UTC)
No that was a total glitch, I was adding the county and the info box disappeared when I published it . Really weird Midwestman1986 (talk) 21:18, 10 January 2019 (UTC)
- No worries, I suspected it might have been a glitch after seeing your contribution history. Probably to do with mobile visual editing. ∰Bellezzasolo✡ Discuss 21:24, 10 January 2019 (UTC)
Hello, I'm Mvcg66b3r. I noticed that you recently removed content from KCTV without adequately explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an accurate edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry; the removed content has been restored. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 23:18, 10 January 2019 (UTC)
I specifically said “removed unsourced sentences”. I added a reference to its proper location. Most of that page is a run on sentence without 1 source on the entire thing
Why do you always misspell in article edits and edit summaries? And why the “curly quotes?” Mvcg66b3r (talk) 00:33, 11 January 2019 (UTC)
Yeah it was a typo in the edit summary. I’m on my phone and can’t see the entire summary when I post it.
You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on KCTV; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.
Points to note:
- Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made;
- Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.
If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes and work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 01:12, 11 January 2019 (UTC)
Notice of Edit warring noticeboard discussion
Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion involving you at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring regarding a possible violation of Wikipedia's policy on edit warring. Thank you. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 03:22, 11 January 2019 (UTC)
Unblock after Sockpuppetry
{unblock1|reason= I was recently blocked around 2 days ago for sockpuppetry. I have spent the last 2 days reading Wikipedia’s policy and guidelines. I do admit that I deserved the ban. I was unaware that you were not alowed to have multiple accounts without putting them on your user page. I was not using these accounts to be manipulative or get what I wanted. I was , however using multiple accounts to edit the same page which I apologize for. I would greatly appreciate if you would review my edits on the account Midwestman1986. I truly was trying to add to Wikipedia and added well referenced information. On the accounts Kansas City 1225 that was vandalism and was well before I knew how Wikipedia worked. I just thought you could wright anything you wanted as people in public had told me. I then created the accounts midwestman1986 and historybuff1111, which I used to add referenced information to pages. I also created many other accounts which I apologize for. As far as the page listed Kansas City metropolitan area and Kansas City international airport I truly was trying to make it completely factual and non opinionated. I was bothered when I read the pages because they were created 10 years ago by Missourians and were completely biased. Every time I would try to add a referenced statement in favor of Kansas on one of these pages, they would be removed by users from Missouri like Grey Wanderer who has gone back and undone all of my referenced material and also has created false information. For example he Just edited the Tom Watson (golfer page) I clearly put on that page that the Kansas City country club is in Mission Hills, Kansas then user Grey Wanderer came and put that it is in Kansas City Missouri which is not true and is a total lie. I would like for the Kansas City related articles to not be biased and to be completely factually based which is what I was trying to do. For example you reverted the Kansas City metropolitan area page. Now it is a false page with false information. I had edited it to make it completely non biased. It is not a 15 county metropolitan area , it is a 14 county metropolitan area I added the reason and references to every edit I made. I also put statistics such as labor percentages in each state and which county was the most populated and most densely populated. I truly apologize for using multiple accounts and hope that we can come to an agreement where I agree to only edit with one account. I also know now it is not Ok to evade bans or logging out to use your IP address. I truly want to add referenced material to Wikipedia and hope to regain the trust of the community}} Midwestman1986 (talk) 00:16, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose You'll be doing the same things you did before. And you can't even format an unblock statement right! You should stay blocked, for the sake of the community. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 00:23, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
NeutralOppose Hey there Midwestman1986, I’ve reviewed the edit you disked on Tom Watson (golfer). In undertaking the lengthy task of reviewing your edits it’s possible I made some errors, if I did you’re welcome to addresses me at my talk page and I’ll do my best to fix them. There were many many articles that you simply added Johnson County, Kansas links to in addition to the city already there. This is unwieldy and is not how we normally talk about places, usually it’s just “Witchita, Kansas” not “Witchita, Kansas within Sedgwick County, Kansas” considering the reader already knew a general location I didn’t think any location info was that helpful. So many of your edits seems to try to draw attention to Johnson County in awkward places I just had to use my best judgement, I didn’t delete them all! On Kansas City metropolitan area you are correct, the latest census definition was updated to 14 counties, previously 15, thanks for bringing that to my attention, it’s fixed. I’m happy to engage you directly about the Kansas/Missouri balance, but may I suggest you examine your own beliefs about some things? Maybe you can live up to that user name of Historybuff1111. As one, you should know that the Kansas River defined the border between the two states. The mouth of the Kansas (where it meets the Missouri) set the original western border of the Missouri Territory when it became a state. It’s mouth has moved west since the 18th century, rivers do that. The border was in the middle of the river. Kansas City was named after the Kansas River, it was the big port just downstream of the confluence. The Kansas Indianas had been largely expatriated from the area by the time. So yes, Kansas City takes its name from the tribe, but indirectly via the river. In fact, Missouri and Kansas have this etymological process in common! As for your block, I think a longer cool off period than a day is probably warrented, but I have no strong opinion. However either way make sure you understand that you can’t just revert edits you disagree with. It’d be better to use the talk page, there are often good logical reasons. I would also recommend you review the accounts you have over at Commons, like [1] that have copyrighted matieral, Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously. Finally there were multiple instances on talk pages where you replied to yourself, backing yourself up, pretending to be a different person contrary to what you’ve claimed below. At this point, you’ve not even really adknowledged that you understand the problem. Grey Wanderer (talk) 02:24, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
Ok. I only recall pretending to be someone else intentionally one time which was with the flying squirrel account. I now understand that it’s frowned on by Wikipedia. I can’t talk on your talk page currently because I’m banned. Anyways , you could let me calm down for a few days then unban me that would be great. I just wasn’t really familiar with how Wikipedia worked. I also think you should re add the picture I had on the Kansas City metropolitan area page. I made it myself. The old one is outdated and shows the 15 county area. I was honestly trying to make it more accurate. Since these pages have been created Johnson county has gained a lot of people. It has more people and the same amount of business as KCMO. It is also the most densely populated county. Hopefully when I’m unbanned I can coordinate with you to make it more accurate. You seem to have a large biased towards Missouri Obviously. I live on the Missouri side and my entire family is from clay county. I still think Joco and the Kansas side is very un represented in these pages. The Kansas side is 40% of the population btw and Missouri accounts for only 56% of employment. Hopefully you can help me make these pages more accurate when I’m unbanned and we can work together in doing so. Midwestman1986 (talk) 02:51, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
- You've clearly not respected the ban, despite claiming so above, new account and anon edits will continue to be reported. Grey Wanderer (talk) 20:53, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
Ok ? But can you give me a break I was unaware of guidelines as a new user
Sorry it’s harder on my phone. But you have to admit, that I never pretended to be different people when I was talking to you. I was just editing from multiple accounts. The things I added there are well sourced and it should be an encyclopedia. I think it’s unnecessary to say Kansas City Missouri in the Johnson county page. Kansas City Missouri has less people and Johnson county has more density than any others. I would appreciate if you would re add some of the things I added such as it being the most densely populated in the area I don’t want to be a dick. I just think it’s to geared towards Missouri when almost half the population and business is in Kansas. I would greatly appreciate you re adding some of the things I had. Sorry I was ingnorant of how Wikipedia worked. I didn’t know the guidelines man. Midwestman1986 (talk) 00:37, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
- The guidelines say you should wait 6 months before making an unblock request. During that time you shouldn't make any edits, even to your talk page. And you might still get turned down based on your behavior. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 01:29, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
Unblock
Midwestman1986 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
I was blocked for sock puppetry a long while ago because I was unaware you couldn’t use multiple accounts when I first started Wikipedia. I waited a long time before trying to be unblocked for over 6 months but then was told that I could only be unblocked, if it was a topic ban. I have read Wikipedia’s guidelines and realize that only one account should be used so it doesn’t distort consensus. For some reason some of my edits were reverted as biased, misleading or false. It is a well known fact that Kansas City has had decades of white flight and gradual urban decay and many of the jobs and population and wealth have gone to Johnson county Kansas along with the kcmo pre WW2 being mostly destroyed by roadways and highways. There is also higher density in cities like Overland Park than Kansas City Missouri. Cities such as Overland Park and Lenexa Kansas have higher job densities and have a lower percentage of detached single family housing than Kansas City Missouri. I also read Wikipedia’s civility and want to work cooperatively with others and treat other editors with respect and apologize for any incivility in the past. I now know that putting the word “wealthiest” in the intro is against community consensus. I have evaded the block many times recently using IP addresses trying to make constructive edits. I have learned more to see things from others points of view. Hopefully you can give me another chance. I have much knowledge I can share about different cities in the Midwest along the lines of economy and demographics as every city developed differently. When I removed information and vandalized at the beginning I was just doing that because I didn’t know how Wikipedia worked. I would like to use this account, I can put on this accounts talk page that I was previously a sock puppet. Hopefully you can give me a second chance thanks. Keep in mind this started 5 years ago when I was much younger and basically since then I’ve just been trying to get unblockedMidwestman1986 (talk) 11:49, 19 January 2023 (UTC)
Decline reason:
Closing as stale. You may make a new, hopefully more persuasive, request. 331dot (talk) 11:18, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
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Some rather strange comments were left on my talk page in 2021 by this user (diff diff diff diff). There has been continued editing on the usual pages in the last month, as recently as last week, all pushing the usual agenda of the last five years and all have been reverted by myself and others. They continued creating sock puppets long after they read the policy against it, some much more recently than admitted. An unblock seems ill-advised. They have always feigned ignorance of policy and have little interest in building an encyclopedia. Grey Wanderer (talk) 22:58, 19 January 2023 (UTC)
No I clearly do want to Build an encyclopedia. And yes I admitted above I have circumvented the block previously. There is no “agenda””. You can see on the Kansas City, Missouri and economy of Kansas City and Overland Park pages than my edits were indeed constructive. Midwestman1986 (talk) 23:55, 19 January 2023 (UTC)
By the way to anyone reading this Kansas City Missouri is a completely car dependent and mostly post-WW2 city with only 2.9% of workers getting to work with transit most of whom can’t afford cars and use the city bus. I would appreciate questions to how I could improve articles and can supply plenty of reliable references Midwestman1986 (talk) 08:09, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
Midwestman1986 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
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@331dot: thanks for volunteering on Wikipedia. I now know that admins are volunteers so I don’t want to waste your time. I was just curious how I could make my appeal more persuasive to you and the community as you previously stated on my last unblock request to try to be more persuasive. Hopefully this one is better, I really do like learning and want to contribute to the encyclopedia. Thanks for taking the time to read.
@Deepfriedokra: Hi thank you for volunteering on Wikipedia. I don’t mean to waste much of your time or be disruptive but would greatly appreciated a response. I think you were my handling administrator on the UTRS appeals. It has been 3 and a half months since I edited Wikipedia. I now understand that one user one account should be followed and blocks shouldn’t be bypassed. Do you think this unblock request is more convincing? Or would you like me to wait a certain amount of time and post a new unblock request. I want to work together with others and see things from others points of view also. Thank you