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Reddit is ruled by fascist censors

They shadowban/ban/delete everyone, they dont like! Their nazi rules are Hitler's wet dream! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2003:DC:CF32:7200:AFD0:5C3D:DD47:8D0C (talk) 14:03, 9 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Reddit page is missing it’s political lean.

Reddit is a strongly liberal site. Page should be updated to reflect the lean of the site admins.

Disclaimer required that it’s not publicly admited. Redwikiwombat (talk) 01:32, 28 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Reliable source noting this, otherwise your perspective isn't enough (and OMG you probably are only seeing a tiny bit of Reddit). --ZimZalaBim talk 01:54, 28 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I think something about Reddit's bias should be on the page. This bias can be towards anything, but the way that reddit is set-up (volunteer moderators) leads to communities becoming eco chambers (this is compounded by a lack of transparency that is widely recognized) https://faculty.washington.edu/tmitra/public/papers/group2020_Reddit_Transparency.pdf
https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-319-68207-5_12
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1177/20539517221076486
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8907875/
Lastly, I don't have any data for this but based off of hate subreddits that get banned on reddit, the left leaning bias is prevalent. The subs that get banned (for the most part) deserve to be banned, but you can find nearly identical communities with different views (still advocating for hate, calling for the death of opposite viewpoint) and do not get banned. Again, I have no data for this, but perhaps this is where the original commenter was coming from, but having no mention of bias at all when talking about Reddit is disinguinous. 2600:8800:1B00:CA50:3517:1608:9C67:EE07 (talk) 17:10, 1 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Sinophobia

Reddit is a sinophobic, racist hate site and this should be documented clearly on Wikipedia rather than censored like it is on Reddit. 97.90.41.3 (talk) 14:10, 8 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I think you mean "xenophobic" and if you have links to reputable sources that fit Wikipedia's policies, feel free to provide them. ASpacemanFalls (talk) 16:43, 8 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
There certainly seems to be some genuine sentiment (and less so, which I will detail elsewhere) on the site that Reddit is 'sinophopic'. Someone would need to provide some notable sources backing this up before it could be included, however. If so, maybe it could be mentioned in a paragraph relating to a perceived North American dominated worldview, which I suggested further down on the talk page. Llamageddon (talk) 10:51, 28 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
[1] this is the only relevant discussion that I've found on the topic so far. General racism brings up more results: [2], [3], [4] - nathanielcwm (talk) 01:33, 13 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Replace "Nathan Allen"

Hi. My suggestion is to replace "Nathan Allen" in: "Nathan Allen speaks about the r/science community to the American Chemical Society" My suggestion is to replace it with "A forum moderator". The person is not notable, also not in this context; it's a forum moderator. Whose name happens to be Nathan Allen, yes, but the video itself already shows this information. For me personally, at least, the name added nothing. It just made me wonder if Nathan Allen is a famous person that I should know; and he's not. --2001:1C06:19C9:400:B2FF:CA0D:C1C3:53CB (talk) 19:48, 20 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This is a difficult case. He's more than Just a mod on r/science since in the video it says that he's also a chemist. Maybe other editors could weigh in on this? ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 19:56, 20 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Does him being a chemist add to the video? Most people who are reddit moderators work a different job, but the important information here is that he is a reddit mod not a chemist or his name (in my opinion). If the chemist part is important (though it is not stated besides in the video from what I can tell) maybe "A forum moderator who works as a chemist"? 2600:8800:1B00:CA50:3517:1608:9C67:EE07 (talk) 16:56, 1 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 13 April 2023

i want to expand the article, by adding what countries it is banned in. Boxorox1 (talk) 01:08, 13 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: this is not the right page to request additional user rights. You may reopen this request with the specific changes to be made and someone may add them for you, or if you have an account, you can wait until you are autoconfirmed and edit the page yourself. Cannolis (talk) 01:23, 13 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Jen Wong under "Key People" should be hyperlinked

Current COO of Reddit Jen Wong has a wikipedia page: Jen Wong

Their name should be listed as a clickable hyperlink in the "summary" box on the right hand side of the top of the page. Rbgamblin (talk) 03:19, 18 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

 Done Dexxor (talk) 05:37, 18 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Under "Site overview", "Other features", the paragraph that starts with "In 2019, Reddit tested a new feature which allowed users to tip others" ends with a textual reference to Mankind vs. The Undertaker. Rather than linking to three separately related articles, I think the textual reference should link to the article dedicated to the event. Stiiin (talk) 13:16, 25 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Stiiin (talk) 15:14, 4 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. It is unclear what you specifically mean by, "article dedicated to the event", and I do not see an article here on Wikipedia specifically about the tipping feature tested in 2019. --20:28, 4 June 2023 (UTC) Addendum: apologies to anyone reading. Somehow I used the incorrect number of tildas to sign my previous comment. --Pinchme123 (talk) 17:53, 5 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Dominance of North American/Anglosphere woldview

The following is anecdotal, though it is such a common occurrence that I can't help feeling there must be some evidence and sources discussing this in one way or another. If you see a comment on Reddit saying something like "The world is not just the USA" you will more often than not see a dismissive reply adding something along the lines of "Reddit is an American site". At a higher level, a similar explanation is often offered when someone asks why a sub seems to only talk about North American issues and events, as a reason why moderators are not interested in trying to widen the scope of the sub, sometimes with the suggestion that user should make a new sub highlighting it is not just USA centric.

Does anyone think it is worth adding information about this with something like a paragraph to the community and culture summary? I notice this section already unintentionally demonstrates this problem on a minor level, with the only country mentioned in the context of statistics, being the US (so maybe ought to be addressed in terms of WP:CSB anyway). Does anyone have any references they could share, either discussing these assertions I have read in comments on Reddit, and/or more globally inclusive statistics on Reddit users and usage? Llamageddon (talk) 10:30, 28 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

If it's anecdotal, I'm sorry, but you can't add it to Wikipedia. They want serious stuff, not just whatever someone feels like adding. MasterRichinator (talk) 23:14, 10 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Anything can be added to the article, as long as it's relevant in an encyclopedic fashion, and is referencable to reliable sources. — AP 499D25 (talk) 05:53, 15 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Troll/click farms, astrotrufing and brigading

I can't find any reference to troll farms, click farms or astroturfing. Whether more than a brief mention is justified probably depends on either the convention across wikipedia social meida articles, or if it can be claimed that Reddit is particularly vulnerable/problematic in this context (though I think it is).

'Brigading' should definitely be mentioned IMO. AFAIK the term and concept originated on Reddit as they had to come up with a name for it to make rules against doing it. It is a continuing problem, as well as, arguably, being an element of a Reddit 'subculture'. As I can't see any reason to exclude any mention of these, I might just go ahead and add the bare minimum information to the article to justify their addition to the page, and link to the related wiki articles. If no one has any objection, or would like to offer some suggestions, references, or insight on this, I might write up something more comprehensive at a later date. Llamageddon (talk) 11:17, 28 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Any thoughts on the best reference for brigading? I obviously wanted one of the many that, in this context, directly referenced its Reddit origins. Many are not very reputable or notable as sources, these are the best so far:

Llamageddon (talk) 12:09, 28 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

There's also this article on a subreddit being brigaded, they mention how reddit defines "brigading". Also this on inter-sub brigading, another source on that.
brigading not on reddit but substantial that news source uses the term (and discusses) for this type of behavior.
Needless to say, seems like there's a lot out there and I think it is very much worth to discuss from these sources alone. Very relevant to internet culture in general I believe, might be worth its own article. Fuser55 (talk) 21:27, 14 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Power Mods

I want to add a subsection in the Controversies section that talks about Reddit's powermods, including u/awkwardtheturtle. However, I cannot include Reddit posts that I have found myself since that would count as original research, and I cannot find a reference article that talks enough about the subject. What do I do? WilliamMarkRock (talk) 15:35, 7 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This? --Meester Tweester (talk) 06:31, 14 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
It would be interesting, and the source provided by Meester Tweester seems fair, but I'm not sure if a whole section could be warranted. I know a lot of power mods do exist, but I think it would require a few more sources to be WP:DUE. Fuser55 (talk) 21:16, 14 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Should this be under "Current Events" because of the API controversy?

This is anecdotal so it means next to nothing, but some are even saying it could literally kill the whole site!

As outlined in the history section, there are already multiple reliable sources, mainly technology-related, focusing on this, so if we need citations we could just do this.

This article is even attracting nonsense vandals so it has to be protected! MasterRichinator (talk) 23:16, 10 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@MasterRichinator Done - nathanielcwm (talk) 07:24, 11 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
If you mean on the front page: then you can submit it yourself at Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates - nathanielcwm (talk) 07:28, 11 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Should Reddit's outage on blackout day be mentioned?

Is Reddit going down relevant to the events that are happening?


https://techcrunch.com/2023/06/12/reddit-goes-down-just-as-a-site-wide-protest-against-its-unpopular-new-api-policy-kicks-off/


https://9to5mac.com/2023/06/12/reddit-goes-down-fully/ FunLater (talk) 15:37, 12 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Someone added it already :) FunLater (talk) 18:48, 12 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
We should split into another article, its notable enough for its own page Pyraminxsolver (talk) 05:31, 13 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not sure about that. There is a likely chance that Reddit Inc does nothing as noted by the CEO's response. We will have to wait and see what impact the blackout will have. As of now, I do not believe it is notable enough to be a substantial separate article. Fuser55 (talk) 05:51, 13 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Moving all IPO/valuation/investment details to Corporate Affairs

There is a quite a bit of details on Reddit's valuation, outside investment, and being bought in the History section, but the Corporate affairs section might be a better place for some of this. I don't know if receiving investment is a notable moment in Reddit's history, but being bought might be? Maybe only moving everything related to its yet-to-be-seen IPO? All I know is that I think the History section can be improved if some of this was moved. There is no WP:MOS on this that I can find, thoughts? Fuser55 (talk) 15:54, 13 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with the idea of moving it to Corporate affairs. As it stands, the article has the same issue that Netflix has/had: one article talking about both the corporate entity and the consumer-side product that entity runs. ASpacemanFalls (talk) 06:52, 14 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thoughts on having that information in the article introduction as well? Right now it's all laid out there. I don't think it's necessary, maybe just a statement on it looking for an IPO and current valuation. With so much info there, it's almost not worth searching for the Corporate Affairs section on the activities of investment. Also don't think it summarizes the website well as a whole for it to be in the intro. Fuser55 (talk) 18:31, 14 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I would just say it should be split into two articles - Reddit the social media platform and Reddit the company. That way the intro for this one would be much smaller and, in general, it would be easier to structure the information in a way that makes sense. ASpacemanFalls (talk) 19:45, 16 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Revenue error

The wiki page states a revenue of 522.4 billion. The source given projects 522.4 million. 2003:E3:4F27:C289:C123:5630:E3F1:3DA2 (talk) 03:54, 17 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed, thank you for noticing. ASpacemanFalls (talk) 09:22, 17 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

"2023 Reddit API controversy and blackout" split discussion

At time of writing, the 2023 API changes section is already over 20 kb (<-- see Revision history), and it will only get bigger with time. The parent article itself already "almost certainly should be divided" according to WP:SIZESPLIT, so splitting out the content seems desirable.

Questions still left to be answered:

  1. Is the API controversy and blackout event sufficiently notable to receive its own article? (Bear in mind that even if the answer is no right now, as the situation progresses, the answer may shift from no to yes.)
  2. If sufficient notability is determined, what would be the best article title?:
  • 2023 Reddit API controversy
  • 2023 Reddit blackout
  • 2023 Reddit API controversy and blackout

Now, go forth, and discuss: — Toast for Teddy (talk) 17:52, 17 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

In my honest opinion -> No. This is a part of the culture around reddit, and a section in the main article is enough. 2A01:799:31F:5F00:6AC9:A87D:9C2A:A17D (talk) 18:31, 17 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]