Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 July 26

July 26

Category:Films about cryogenics

Propose deleting Category:Films about cryogenics (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: delete, redundant category as its single article is already in Category:Fictional cryonically preserved characters. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:06, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 22:36, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Rename to Category:Films about cryonics, and populate from Category:Fiction about cryonics. Leave a redirect, as this name is liable to be used again. – Fayenatic London 00:11, 28 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Italic warfare

Propose deleting Category:Italic warfare (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Propose deleting Category:Battles involving Italic peoples (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Propose deleting Category:Wars involving Italic peoples (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Propose upmerging Category:Wars involving the Samnites to Category:Samnites

Nominator's rationale: Completely useless Italic languages-family-based WP:ARBITRARY WP:CROSSCATs that nobody needs for navigation. So what if the Romans, Samnites and Sabines spoke linguistically related languages? How did that affect their battle tactics, their strategic thinking, their unit formations etc.? It didn't. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 21:59, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, trivial intersection, per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:13, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Adding Category:Wars involving the Samnites redundant layer. @Marcocapelle FYI; thanks for adding the 2 others, I had one more to add but I got distracted in the middle of doing it. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 22:19, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Wars involving the Samnites should be merged to Category:Samnites though. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:23, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Ah you're right. Fixed Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 22:37, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Support as amended by nom. Laurel Lodged (talk) 07:36, 27 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Arab people by century

Propose renaming Category:9th-century BC Arabs‎ (1 P) to Category:9th-century BC Arab people‎
Propose renaming Category:8th-century BC Arabs‎ (3 P) to Category:8th-century BC Arab people‎
Propose renaming Category:7th-century BC Arabs‎ (3 P) to Category:7th-century BC Arab people‎
Propose renaming Category:6th-century BC Arabs‎ (1 P) to Category:6th-century BC Arab people‎
Propose renaming Category:5th-century BC Arabs‎ (1 P) to Category:5th-century BC Arab people‎
Propose renaming Category:2nd-century BC Arabs‎ (1 C, 3 P) to Category:2nd-century BC Arab people‎
Propose renaming Category:1st-century BC Arabs‎ (1 C, 9 P) to Category:1st-century BC Arab people‎
Propose renaming Category:1st-century Arabs‎ (1 C, 12 P) to Category:1st-century Arab people‎ Done
Propose renaming Category:2nd-century Arabs‎ (1 C, 20 P) to Category:2nd-century Arab people‎
Propose renaming Category:3rd-century Arabs‎ (37 P) to Category:3rd-century Arab people‎
Propose renaming Category:4th-century Arabs‎ (18 P) to Category:4th-century Arab people‎
Propose renaming Category:5th-century Arabs‎ (28 P) to Category:5th-century Arab people‎
Propose renaming Category:6th-century Arabs‎ (2 C, 86 P) to Category:6th-century Arab people‎
Propose renaming Category:7th-century Arabs‎ (9 C, 285 P) to Category:7th-century Arab people‎
Propose renaming Category:8th-century Arabs‎ (3 C, 330 P) to Category:8th-century Arab people‎
Propose renaming Category:9th-century Arabs‎ (4 C, 244 P) to Category:9th-century Arab people‎
Propose renaming Category:10th-century Arabs‎ (6 C, 159 P) to Category:10th-century Arab people‎
Propose renaming Category:11th-century Arabs‎ (5 C, 137 P) to Category:11th-century Arab people‎
Propose renaming Category:12th-century Arabs‎ (3 C, 82 P) to Category:12th-century Arab people‎
Propose renaming Category:13th-century Arabs‎ (2 C, 91 P) to Category:13th-century Arab people‎
Propose renaming Category:14th-century Arabs‎ (2 C, 73 P) to Category:14th-century Arab people‎
Propose renaming Category:15th-century Arabs‎ (2 C, 56 P) to Category:15th-century Arab people‎
Propose renaming Category:16th-century Arabs‎ (2 C, 44 P) to Category:16th-century Arab people‎
Propose renaming Category:17th-century Arabs‎ (1 C, 53 P) to Category:17th-century Arab people‎
Propose renaming Category:18th-century Arabs‎ (1 C, 65 P) to Category:18th-century Arab people‎
Propose renaming Category:19th-century Arabs‎ (1 C, 123 P) to Category:19th-century Arab people‎
Propose renaming Category:20th-century Arabs‎ (18 C, 41 P) to Category20th-century Arab people‎
Propose renaming Category:21st-century Arabs‎ (18 C, 2 P) to Category:21st-century Arab people‎
Purge all people by nationality categories. This is in the Category:People by century and ethnicity tree.

Nominator's rationale: Follow-up to Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 July 15#Arabs and Arab people. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 21:13, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Rename, per previous discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:15, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Rename, per previous discussion. Laurel Lodged (talk) 07:36, 27 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Same here, rename, per previous discussion.--౪ Santa ౪^99° 07:48, 27 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Croat scientists from Bosnia and Herzegovina

Propose deleting Category:Croat scientists from Bosnia and Herzegovina (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Propose deleting Category:Croat actors from Bosnia and Herzegovina (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Croat television actors from Bosnia and Herzegovina (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Propose deleting Category:Croat artists from Bosnia and Herzegovina (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Propose deleting Category:Croat military personnel from Bosnia and Herzegovina (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Propose deleting Category:Croat singers from Bosnia and Herzegovina (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Non-notable intersections by ethnicity per WP:OCEGRS; emphasis on earlier LaundryPizza03 explanation (here) that WP:NARROWCAT applies regardless. We don't categorize people by occupation of a Foo country by ethnicity, religion, etc.

It concerns WP:CATDEF; WP:NONDEFINING, WP:ETHNICRACECAT refers to WP:COP (WP:COP#N/WP:COPHERITAGE);

As a sidenote, many, if not all, articles lack references to prove the claim laid in the category; it's all doing of one and the same editor with a knack for creating distinct categories based on ethnicity. Also see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2023_May_21#Category:Croat_sportspeople_from_Bosnia_and_Herzegovina for additional information. ౪ Santa ౪^99° 07:07, 18 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, trivial intersections with ethnicity. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:21, 19 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Upmerge to Category:Bosnia and Herzegovina fooers, e.g. Category:Bosnia and Herzegovina scientists. Deleting them means pulling them out of the Category:Bosnia and Herzegovina people by occupation, where they do belong. Wouldn't you agree @Marcocapelle? Cheers, Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 21:54, 23 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- In principle yes, but then it should become a manual merge, because most articles belong in the Croatian tree, as their birth in Bosnia and Herzegovina is trivial compared to their career in Croatia. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:27, 24 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  Oh wait, I misunderstood this category. I thought it was "ethnic Croats living in BiH who are scientists", but it's "people living in Croatia who are scientists and who also just so happen to have been born in BiH". That last bit is trivial yes. Unless "BiH brain drain to Croatia" was a well-recognised phenomenon with a main article, then perhaps, but not like this. Manual merge then. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 21:02, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Comment.@Marcocapelle:; @Nederlandse Leeuw:, before someone plunges into sea of blp's and bio's for checking which should or should not be up/manually merged, following could info be useful for anyone considering exactly that. The thing with these Croat of foo-occupation of Bosnia and Herzegovina is that they are doing of one editor with a knack for creating these "ethnicized categories", so to speak, under Bosnia and Herzegovina for the sole purpose of separating blp's/bio's based on one ethnic identity, and that all Croat foo-occupation of Bosnia and Herzegovina cats are recently created over a period of just day or two. However, and here I was almost compelled writing "needles to say....", most if not all of the blp/bio articles categorized with these nominated for deletion categories were/are already properly categorized in either Croatian foo-occupation, Bosnia and Herzegovina foo-occupation, or in some cases both. In other words, it is fairly reasonable and safe to assume that no need for up/manual merge actually exist at all. If some of the bio articles had not been categorized as either Croatian foo-occupation or Bosnia and Herzegovina foo-occupation it's either a fluke and/or it is because there is no sources-based discussion in them mentioning blp's/bio's adherence to one or the other country.in the first place.--౪ Santa ౪^99° 23:24, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You are right, I will stand by my earlier delete vote. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:37, 27 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete all would set a bad precedent if retained. Laurel Lodged (talk) 07:38, 27 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Housing in Iceland

Propose merging Category:Housing in Iceland to Category:Housing in Europe and Category:Society of Iceland and Category:Economy of Iceland and Category:Architecture in Iceland

Nominator's rationale: Per WP:SMALLCAT. This category has only 1 entry. Estopedist1 (talk) 15:22, 18 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Considering the content of the article, I would rather move it to Category:Advocacy groups or Category:Economic advocacy groups instead. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:29, 19 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
How about:
"Architecture" and "Economy of Iceland" indeed seems out of scope. "Advocacy groups" and "Economy of Iceland" seem redundant if we already do "Economic advocacy groups". Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 15:57, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Category:Society of Iceland and Category:Economic advocacy groups are ok merge targets, but Category:Housing in Europe does not fit the article that is about households (as an economic interest group) rather than about housing. Marcocapelle (talk) 03:56, 23 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  Hmmm well I think households and housing are quite closely linked. In the short term the main objective is to address urgently the impact made by the financial crisis on households, and prevent households from becoming victims of unfair and possibly illegal confiscation of property as well as unsustainable debt and social disintegration. I understand "property" to include housing.
  
  Wait.... This whole text is almost word for word from the website. It is a WP:copyvio! Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 22:27, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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I don't agree that households and housing are quite closely linked. A household can have two houses, or two households can live in one house. It is about (groups of) people versus a physical place. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:58, 27 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I'd agree that "It is about (groups of) people versus a physical place". Laurel Lodged (talk) 07:35, 27 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Bigg Boss Malayalam contestants

Propose renaming Category:Bigg Boss Malayalam contestants to Category:Bigg Boss (Malayalam TV series) contestants

Nominator's rationale: To conform with Bigg Boss (Malayalam TV series) and its season names, in the line of Category:Bigg Boss (Hindi TV series) contestants. The Doom Patrol (talk) 15:56, 2 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per WP:PERFCAT. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:02, 2 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- It seens invidious to delete one when it came up for renaming, without considering all the Category:Bigg Boss contestants & subcats as a set. – Fayenatic London 21:29, 10 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  - That is a fair point. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:37, 10 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Category:National Highways in China

Propose renaming Category:National Highways in China to Category:National Highways of China

Nominator's rationale: "National highway" isn't a generic term with the same meaning everywhere, but a specific designation that varies by jurisdiction. The primary attribute of these categories is the designation by their respective governments, not mere geographical location. The format National highways of Foo would better reflect that. (I have no opinion on whether they should be treated as proper nouns, and have proposed no changes to the capitalisation. I'd be fine with suggestions otherwise.) Paul_012 (talk) 04:39, 3 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Oppose I think location is more defining than "ownership". Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 22:43, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
alt rename all to "Highways in Foo" and merge "National highways" to Category:Highways by country. Laurel Lodged (talk) 07:41, 27 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

European people by country

Propose renaming Category:20th-century European people by country to Category:20th-century people in Europe by country
Propose renaming Category:19th-century European people by country to Category:19th-century people in Europe by country
Propose renaming Category:18th-century European people by country to Category:18th-century people in Europe by country
Propose renaming Category:17th-century European people by country to Category:17th-century people in Europe by country
Propose renaming Category:16th-century European people by country to Category:16th-century people in Europe by country
Propose renaming Category:15th-century European people by country to Category:15th-century people in Europe by country
Propose renaming Category:14th-century European people by country to Category:14th-century people in Europe by country
Propose renaming Category:13th-century European people by country to Category:13th-century people in Europe by country

Nominator's rationale: I created all these categories. There is no such thing as "European people". It's not an ethnicity or a nationality. It is a geo-political space. Laurel Lodged (talk) 13:13, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: Category:15th-century European people by country is currently in speedy having been de-populated. Laurel Lodged (talk) 13:36, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I don't understand. Who did the de-populating? I can see it wasn't you; you actually created a new subcategory for it today after it was nommed for speedy delete yesterday. Perhaps someone else yesterday emptied it out of process? Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 14:06, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Faye recategorised a lot on 23 July from Category:15th-century European people by country to Category:15th-century European people by nationality. @Fayenatic london: did you accidentally de-populate this category 3 days ago? Cheers, Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 14:18, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oh wait I see the discussion on your talk page now... Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 14:24, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Ok so it was Mason who did it. Liz hasn't dropped him a note yet as LL recommended; Faye did without tagging, but Mason still seems unaware that he ECOOPed.

Ok, I'll do it: @Smasongarrison: Hi, please do not empty categories out of process (ECOOP). As Faye said on his talk page, please take a category here to CFD before you empty it of its last subcategory or item, otherwise it hinders the categorisation process. It looks like you made an unintentional mistake, that can happen. Hopefully you can prevent it next time.

Cheers, Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 14:32, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Ahh, yep, I seem to have been the one to accidentally depopulate. My apologies that wasn't my intent. I'll do my best to remember to check that I didn't gut the old category in the future. Mason (talk) 14:56, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 15:55, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Rename per WP:C2C, see previous precedents of Category:European monarchs being renamed to Category:Monarchs in Europe. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 14:08, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Yes. I should probably have linked to that discussion. I too leaped to the same erroneous conclusion. And yes, it will be nice for Monarchs to have a proper home 'in' Europe. Laurel Lodged (talk) 14:36, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, this is how I can imagine just how frustrating it must be for Liz and anyone else who wants to check who did the ECOOPing, because the category history doesn't show which items were removed from it by whom and when. You just kinda have to look for patterns everywhere. I ran into you, Faye, Mason and I just couldn't tell who was responsible for emptying. Maybe we should have some kind of public log for category membership? It shouldn't take me a bloody half hour to find out who emptied it. Cheers, Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 14:44, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
That's a really good idea. I don't have the skills to build it though. Laurel Lodged (talk) 14:56, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I asked a Wikimedia friend of mine. She said she wouldn't know either. "Categories are filled because an item refers to that category. It takes a fair amount of computing power to keep track of whether there are changes to that. It is quite reasonable that that is not already done for everything. It's not free." I get that.

Maybe we should ask Liz how she keeps track of who emptied categories? Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 15:53, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
This script does it, for changes in the last month or so. Oculi (talk) 17:14, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nice! Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 17:59, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom (i.e. not an ethnicity or nationality). I don't think the precedent of monarchs weighs heavily because for monarchs it was specifically relevant to distinguish where they were born versus where they reigned. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:13, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
That is a good point. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 17:56, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Disclosure: I removed Category:People from Austria-Hungary from C20 because it is a nationality category, like the "from the Ottoman Empire" and "from Georgia (country)" categories that I moved before this discussion. I have added 20th-century Anglican bishops in Europe and 20th-century Roman Catholic bishops in Europe. – Fayenatic London 09:14, 27 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I support the target names rather than the current names, and renaming could have gone ahead instantly under WP:C2E. However, now that the categories have been nominated for a full discussion, we should be asking what is the benefit of having them? Is Monarchs in Europe is sub-catted by century, so I will add those. 19th-century diplomats and 20th-century diplomats have multiple subcats by destination country, but not enough to subcat Europe on its own, and no others in Diplomats by century currently show potential for such navigation. Sportspeople is currently the other profession with many expatriates, but the surviving subcats of Category:Sportspeople by century are by nationality rather by country, so there is nothing there to be added. If we will have only bishops and monarchs, I suggest deleting the nominated set as not useful for navigation. – Fayenatic London 09:39, 27 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
In the sportspeople tree structure, a lot of things have been moved from "by country" trees to "by nationality" trees. So little wonder that the structure looks sparse. There are many people whose professional life means that they operate outside of the country of their birth. Expatriates, missionaries, explorers, geographers, linguists, diplomats, political prisoners detained by foreign governments etc are all useful members of "by country" tree structures. Or they would be if they were not being consistently, and IMHO, erroneously shifted to "by nationality" trees. Laurel Lodged (talk) 09:48, 27 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Daniel Mannix is typical of this structure. He was an Irish bishop who was Category:19th-century Roman Catholic bishops in Australia. It's not either/or; in many cases it's both. Laurel Lodged (talk) 09:57, 27 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Most of C20 sportspeople has been deleted per multiple consensuses at CFD. But you're missing a point: which occupations can justifiably have intersections by century? I can't find any more splits by century within Category:People by occupation and country or Category:Expatriates by country of residence. I tried to build Category:People by century and country but only found this Europe hierarchy and another one by religion which only contains bishops (also created by you). – Fayenatic London 13:53, 27 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Category:19th-century bishops in Europe has 26 sub-cats. Category:Christian missionaries in Europe has 54 sub-cats that has potential for sub-categorisation by century. Category:Explorers of Canada alone has 235 articles betwwen direct and sub-cats that has potential for sub-categorisation by century. Category:Expatriates by country of residence has 250 sub-cats, each with dozens of articles that has potential for sub-categorisation by century. Category:Ambassadors by mission country has 250 sub-cats, each with dozens of articles that has potential for sub-categorisation by century. Laurel Lodged (talk) 15:37, 27 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Star Wars Jedi (series) characters

Propose merging Category:Star Wars Jedi (series) characters to Category:Star Wars Jedi

Nominator's rationale: SMALLCAT. ★Trekker (talk) 09:27, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Merge per nom. I don't know how heavily redirects "count"? But this cat has 4 redirects and just 1 standalone article. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 14:10, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per nom. Redirects should have a very low count because normally one wouldn't navigate from a redirect page. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:17, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Hindutva Terrorism

Propose renaming Category:Hindutva Terrorism to Category:Hindu terrorism

Nominator's rationale: Pre WP:C2D, and aligning the category name with its main article, which was moved on 25 February and has remained stable for the last five months. Iskandar323 (talk) 08:27, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Support: Per WP:CAPITALISATION. Kailash29792 (talk) 08:58, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:18, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom, but there appears to be significant overlap between this new category and the existing Category:Hindu nationalist terrorism. What's the distinction? Should one be a parent category of the other? 2A00:23EE:16A8:C58:6836:22FF:FE30:62BD (talk) 18:48, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Very well observed! Hence rename per nom, then merge to Category:Hindu nationalist terrorism while leaving a redirect. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:21, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Films postponed due to the COVID-19 pandemic

Propose merging Category:Films postponed due to the COVID-19 pandemic to Category:Films impacted by the COVID-19 pandemic

Nominator's rationale: Countless films had their release dates delayed due to production lapses and delays caused by the pandemic. Kailash29792 (talk) 08:23, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose I don't see how a merger helps here.★Trekker (talk) 16:03, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
If nominator means that the whole tree should be cut, I agree. But just nominating a single category does not help. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:20, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per StarTrekker. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 22:41, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Film productions suspended due to the COVID-19 pandemic

Propose merging Category:Film productions suspended due to the COVID-19 pandemic to Category:Films impacted by the COVID-19 pandemic

Nominator's rationale: Countless films had their release dates delayed due to production lapses and delays caused by the pandemic. Kailash29792 (talk) 08:23, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

See above. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:21, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Indo-European legendary creatures

Propose splitting Category:Indo-European legendary creatures to Category:European legendary creatures and Category:Asian legendary creatures

Nominator's rationale: split, trivial intersection between legendary creatures and language group. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:40, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Split per nom. Some of the children of Category:European legendary creatures are also language-family-based, such as Category:Finno-Ugric legendary creatures; I would upmerge that. Similarly I'm not sure everything in, say, Category:Scottish legendary creatures should be considered Category:Celtic legendary creatures. E.g. the Morag (lake monster) was reportedly first sighted in 1887, but other than that its name derives from a lake which has a Scottish Gaelic name, I wouldn't say there is anything "Celtic" about the purported monster, or at least the claim that there is one. It has a lot to do with 19th-century Scottish culture, but not really with the Celtic languages family. But that's a next step, right? Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 06:33, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:DEFA people

Propose deleting Category:DEFA people (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: delete for now, there is no conceptual objection against the category but it does not serve a navigational benefit when only one article is in the category. By all means re-create the category when at least a handful of people can be put in this category. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:31, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Upmerge to Category:Cinema of East Germany. Delete Category:DEFA as a redundant layer. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 06:37, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

(as nom) I agree with this alternative too. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:23, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Infobox rail line tracked parameters

Propose deleting Category:Infobox rail line tracked parameters (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: This category has not been used since 2016. – Jonesey95 (talk) 03:09, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy delete per WP:C1. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 22:40, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]