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21:27 Wednesday 14 August 2024 - - - - WELCOME TO MY TALK PAGE

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New Page Patrol newsletter October 2022

Hello PamD,

Much has happened since the last newsletter over two months ago. The open letter finished with 444 signatures. The letter was sent to several dozen people at the WMF, and we have heard that it is being discussed but there has been no official reply. A related article appears in the current issue of The Signpost. If you haven't seen it, you should, including the readers' comment section.

Awards: Barnstars were given for the past several years (thanks to MPGuy2824), and we are now all caught up. The 2021 cup went to John B123 for leading with 26,525 article reviews during 2021. To encourage moderate activity, a new "Iron" level barnstar is awarded annually for reviewing 360 articles ("one-a-day"), and 100 reviews earns the "Standard" NPP barnstar. About 90 reviewers received barnstars for each of the years 2018 to 2021 (including the new awards that were given retroactively). All awards issued for every year are listed on the Awards page. Check out the new Hall of Fame also.

Software news: Novem Linguae and MPGuy2824 have connected with WMF developers who can review and approve patches, so they have been able to fix some bugs, and make other improvements to the Page Curation software. You can see everything that has been fixed recently here. The reviewer report has also been improved.

NPP backlog May – October 15, 2022

Suggestions:

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Backlog:
Saving the best for last: From a July low of 8,500, the backlog climbed back to 11,000 in August and then reversed in September dropping to below 6,000 and continued falling with the October backlog drive to under 1,000, a level not seen in over four years. Keep in mind that there are 2,000 new articles every week, so the number of reviews is far higher than the backlog reduction. To keep the backlog under a thousand, we have to keep reviewing at about half the recent rate!
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New Pages Patrol newsletter January 2023

Hello PamD,

New Page Review queue December 2022
Backlog

The October drive reduced the backlog from 9,700 to an amazing 0! Congratulations to WaddlesJP13 who led with 2084 points. See this page for further details. The queue is steadily rising again and is approaching 2,000. It would be great if <2,000 were the “new normal”. Please continue to help out even if it's only for a few or even one patrol a day.

2022 Awards

Onel5969 won the 2022 cup for 28,302 article reviews last year - that's an average of nearly 80/day. There was one Gold Award (5000+ reviews), 11 Silver (2000+), 28 Iron (360+) and 39 more for the 100+ barnstar. Rosguill led again for the 4th year by clearing 49,294 redirects. For the full details see the Awards page and the Hall of Fame. Congratulations everyone!

Minimum deletion time: The previous WP:NPP guideline was to wait 15 minutes before tagging for deletion (including draftification and WP:BLAR). Due to complaints, a consensus decided to raise the time to 1 hour. To illustrate this, very new pages in the feed are now highlighted in red. (As always, this is not applicable to attack pages, copyvios, vandalism, etc.)

New draftify script: In response to feedback from AFC, the The Move to Draft script now provides a choice of set messages that also link the creator to a new, friendly explanation page. The script also warns reviewers if the creator is probably still developing the article. The former script is no longer maintained. Please edit your edit your common.js or vector.js file from User:Evad37/MoveToDraft.js to User:MPGuy2824/MoveToDraft.js

Redirects: Some of our redirect reviewers have reduced their activity and the backlog is up to 9,000+ (two months deep). If you are interested in this distinctly different task and need any help, see this guide, this checklist, and spend some time at WP:RFD.

Discussions with the WMF The PageTriage open letter signed by 444 users is bearing fruit. The Growth Team has assigned some software engineers to work on PageTriage, the software that powers the NewPagesFeed and the Page Curation toolbar. WMF has submitted dozens of patches in the last few weeks to modernize PageTriage's code, which will make it easier to write patches in the future. This work is helpful but is not very visible to the end user. For patches visible to the end user, volunteers such as Novem Linguae and MPGuy2824 have been writing patches for bug reports and feature requests. The Growth Team also had a video conference with the NPP coordinators to discuss revamping the landing pages that new users see.

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FYI - Lists and bolding of first column

Re your first-column bolding comment at AFD Women in Guam History. The bolding is for screen readers for the visually impaired. Same thing with the bolding of the column headers. I learned about it at Wikipedia:FLC, where the scope (bolding) is almost mandatory to pass table format for the Featured status. If you open it to the edit screen you see the terms scope="col" and scope="row". That's whet it's for - screen readers. — Maile (talk) 12:10, 24 April 2023 (UTCfor

New Pages Patrol newsletter June 2023

Hello PamD,

New Page Review queue April to June 2023

Backlog

Redirect drive: In response to an unusually high redirect backlog, we held a redirect backlog drive in May. The drive completed with 23851 reviews done in total, bringing the redirect backlog to 0 (momentarily). Congratulations to Hey man im josh who led with a staggering 4316 points, followed by Meena and Greyzxq with 2868 and 2546 points respectively. See this page for more details. The redirect queue is steadily rising again and is steadily approaching 4,000. Please continue to help out, even if it's only for a few or even one review a day.

Redirect autopatrol: All administrators without autopatrol have now been added to the redirect autopatrol list. If you see any users who consistently create significant amounts of good quality redirects, consider requesting redirect autopatrol for them here.

WMF work on PageTriage: The WMF Moderator Tools team, consisting of Sam, Jason and Susana, and also some patches from Jon, has been hard at work updating PageTriage. They are focusing their efforts on modernising the extension's code rather than on bug fixes or new features, though some user-facing work will be prioritised. This will help make sure that this extension is not deprecated, and is easier to work on in the future. In the next month or so, we will have an opt-in beta test where new page patrollers can help test the rewrite of Special:NewPagesFeed, to help find bugs. We will post more details at WT:NPPR when we are ready for beta testers.

Articles for Creation (AFC): All new page reviewers are now automatically approved for Articles for Creation draft reviewing (you do not need to apply at WT:AFCP like was required previously). To install the AFC helper script, visit Special:Preferences, visit the Gadgets tab, tick "Yet Another AFC Helper Script", then click "Save". To find drafts to review, visit Special:NewPagesFeed, and at the top left, tick "Articles for Creation". To review a draft, visit a submitted draft, click on the "More" menu, then click "Review (AFCH)". You can also comment on and submit drafts that are unsubmitted using the script.

You can review the AFC workflow at WP:AFCR. It is up to you if you also want to mark your AFC accepts as NPP reviewed (this is allowed but optional, depends if you would like a second set of eyes on your accept). Don't forget that draftspace is optional, so moves of drafts to mainspace (even if they are not ready) should not be reverted, except possibly if there is conflict of interest.

Pro tip: Did you know that visual artists such as painters have their own SNG? The most common part of this "creative professionals" criteria that applies to artists is WP:ARTIST 4b (solo exhibition, not group exhibition, at a major museum) or 4d (being represented within the permanent collections of two museums).

Reminders

Bryher iron age female warrior

Hi PamD! As you and I had good conversations about how to categorise Barum Woman and similar ancient/prehistoric women, I thought you might find this interesting news which you might want to write an article about: Caroline Davies (27 July 2023). "Isles of Scilly remains are iron age female warrior, scientists say". the Guardian. Retrieved 27 July 2023. Cheers, Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 10:22, 27 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Nederlandse Leeuw Thanks for the reminder:I heard a news item about her this morning, and wondered whether she was already in en.wiki! Will follow it up. PamD 12:11, 27 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hah, that's great! I couldn't find an article on her, but that could be because I don't know what to look for. After all, it's only since today that we know it's a woman, so there won't yet be a WP:COMMONNAME for her like "Bryher Woman" (which I would think is a nice one, compared to Barum Woman, Minnesota Woman etc.). Historic England states that The research findings are published today in 'The Journal of Archaeological Science Reports' and show the individual was female. Looks like this is it:
S. Mays, G. Parker, C. Johns, S. Stark, A.J. Young, D. Reich, J. Buikstra, K. Sawyer, K. Hale "Sex identification of a Late Iron Age sword and mirror cist burial from Hillside Farm, Bryher, Isles of Scilly, England". The Journal of Archaeological Science Reports: 1–10. 27 July 2023. doi:10.1016/j.jasrep.2023.104099. ISSN 2352-409X.
To my pleasant surprise, the phrase Bryher woman (lowercase "w") does show up 4 times in the paper itself, so I guess it would be a good article title. Cheers, Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 13:04, 27 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
PS: 'G. Parker' and 'S. Stark' are apparently cited as Dr Glendon Parker and Dr Sarah Stark by The Guardian and Historic England, which is really cool. I'm reading the whole paper now. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 13:20, 27 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Well I've created a solid little start-level article at Bryher Woman with good sources. Will now digress and create Isles of Scilly Museum. Was supposed to be spending the afternoon getting stuck in to decluttering and packing as we've just exchanged contracts on a house move! PamD 16:16, 27 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Awesome, thanks so much! I knew you'd probably like to write it, so I thought I'd tell you about it and give you the honour of creating it. And congrats and good luck on the move! Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 16:29, 27 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Women in Red August 2023

Women in Red August 2023, Vol 9, Iss 8, Nos 251, 252, 277, 278, 279, 280


Online events:

See also:

  • Wikimania 2023 will be held in Singapore, 16–19 August, and will be facilitated by the
    affiliates in the ESEAP (East/South East/Asia/Pacific) region.

Tip of the month:

Other ways to participate:

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--Lajmmoore (talk) 19:26, 28 July 2023 (UTC) via MassMessaging[reply]

The Signpost: 1 August 2023

AUDREY FILDES

For talk page watchers: See Audrey Fildes and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Audrey Fildes PamD 14:14, 2 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello PamD, I am Paul, Audrey's son. I saw your "keep" recommendation and thought to send you a note. The lack of a Globe and Mail Obit noted by AB is down to me. I never submitted one and I would have been the one to do so. My mother died suddenly and it was a shock. I'm not sure if additional information is useful, but here are three recollections. 1. Audrey's Grandfather Sir William Goscombe-John did a bronze bust of her "Audrey, A Young Actress" which I believe to be in the Goscombe-John collection at Cardiff Castle. I have a photo in a box I could dig out. 2. Audrey was on the cover of British Vogue in the early 1950's. Sadly I don't have a copy. 3. Alec Guinness, with whom Audrey appeared in "Kind Hearts and Coronets" mentions her briefly in his autobiography "Blessings in Disguise." I realise Audrey is now a minor figure, but I would like to see her Wikipedia entry continue. Thanks for putting the time in to support keeping the entry. Paul SonsPaulandNicholas (talk) 12:09, 2 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@SonsPaulandNicholas Well, as you can see, I've done what I can with your information - and spent far too much of my life on this as I'm moving house in a week and ought to be decluttering and packing but have leapt at an excuse to play around with Wikipedia instead. It's fascinating that Miss Design's questions are so similar to William Morris's "Have nothing in your houses that you do not know to be useful or believe to be beautiful" (or is that Ruskin? - I know it gets misattributed to the other one, either way), as your Mother went on to be a member of the WM Soc. PamD 14:11, 2 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Real Life calls

I'm logging out for a while : too much to do outside Wikipedia. I'll be back. PamD 09:55, 3 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 15 August 2023

MACIF (disambiguation)

Hi @PamD. Could you have a look at my comments for you here: Talk:MACIF (disambiguation)#MACIF insurance company as primary topic

PS: I never know if I should post on someone's page or directly in the talk page. simon (talk) 20:48, 20 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]