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Removal of alternate identification of Kathaíoi tribe

Recently User:Codegeass123 has been removing content that provides an alternate identification that the Kathaíoi tribe mentioned in Greek sources were Kaṭha Brahmins. It is claimed that the content is "irrelevant and misleading". I disagree that it is irrelevant, as it provides an important alternate view that the Kathaíoi tribe was not the ancestor of modern Khatris but rather an alternate social group. It is also not misleading, as

"Note also the fierce Kathaíoi "tribe" (i.e. Kaṭha Brahmins) who live in the same area as the Salva (and Mahāvṛṣa) at the time of Alexander . . . Arrian, Anabasis 5.22. This "tribe" is reported to be one of the fiercest in north-west India. Alexander was almost killed in the siege of its major town, Sággala. Normally it is not in the nature of Brahmins to be in the forefront of battles, but obviously their name here stands for that of the tribe; cf. Patañjali, Mahābhāṣya 6.3.42:157.14 kaṭhadeśīya, kaṭhajātīya, (cf. also Kaṭhī vṛndārikā = Kaṭhavṛndārikā"the female chief", or "the wife of the chief of the Kaṭha" 6.3.42:157.13). All of this indicates that Kaṭha also is the name of a territory and "tribe/caste" (jāti). Cf. Wirth & v. Hinüber 1985: 929, cf. p. 1096." ^[1]

Chariotrider555 (talk) Chariotrider555 (talk) 00:06, 8 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Chariotrider555 and Codegeass123: I'd say it is very much relevant to put the alternative theory. I don't see a reason to remove it, especially since it is coming from a reputable source Michael Witzel. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 16:36, 8 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Witzel here is speaking of the Kathaíoi here not Khatris. The Khaṭas were brahminical preists, on the contrary, the Khatris are warrior/pastorial tribe. This part doesnt belong here. The two name sound similar hence have been merged by the author of this article. Infact the cited reference by Witzel itself never claims "Khatris" to have originally been Khaṭa brahmins. (Please refer to pg 140-141).

It is a misquotation. Codegeass123 (talk) 10:17, 4 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Chariotrider555 and Codegeass123: The Greek described Kathaiois were equated to the "Khatri" by Baij Nath Puri and S. Sasikanta Sastri in there books, Witzel on otehr hand is simply providing an alternative theory that Kathaiois were infact "Katha Brahmins". So it is very relevant and WP:DUE, since we are providing difference opinions on Kathaiois. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 11:22, 4 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Chariotrider555 I agree that there is no legitimate cause for them to remove the cited statement proposing an alt. theory of origin. I have reverted their edit. ThethPunjabi (talk) 17:11, 25 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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BadalChawla1550 (talk) 16:50, 3 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

khatri is a warrior caste claimed ,,, its not trading community

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. The warrior vs trader thing is already in the article, so please be more specific. Closhund /talk/ 17:07, 3 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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BadalChawla1550 (talk) 16:53, 3 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

KHATRI IS A WARRIOR CASTE ITS NOT TRADING OR SCRIBING CASTE

PUNJABI KHATRI IS A WARRIOR CLAN IT S NOT TRADING COMMUNITY HOWEVER IT BEGAN ITS ROLE IN BUSINESS AFTER PARTITION

PUNJABI KHATRI IS A WARRIOR CLAN IT S NOT TRADING COMMUNITY HOWEVER IT BEGAN ITS ROLE IN BUSINESS AFTER PARTITION BadalChawla1550 (talk) 16:55, 3 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

^ Witzel, Michael (2023). "The Realm of the Kuru: Origins and Development of the First State in India". Electronic Journal of Vedic Studies. 28 (1): 140–141.

[1] Witzel, Michael (2023). "The Realm of the Kuru: Origins and Development of the First State in India". Electronic Journal of Vedic Studies. 28 (1): 140–141.

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