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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by 129.222.234.213 (talk) at 22:07, 7 September 2023 (→‎Arbitration Enforcement Sanction Removal Request - User:karagory: Reply). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

Two new users both voting keep, one at great length, and the other directly after and referring to the first. They could of course just be followers of the guru, but vote stacking is usually enough to warrant a check. 3fiddy and Giro 194.--Bbb23 (talk) 23:21, 24 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Bbb23, sorry. Didn’t look at WP much yesterday. If bullseye is to be believed, they are on separate continents and not using proxies. Courcelles (talk) 12:07, 25 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Well, you can't be on wiki 100% of the time, can you? Although sometimes it seems like you are. Completely unrelated topic. Have you ever heard of a so-called WMF Community Liaison named Paul A. Simon? Has to do with a hoax e-mail I received yesterday, but I just wondered if the hoaxer made up the Simon name or impersonated a real WMF staff member.--Bbb23 (talk) 13:18, 25 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I have not, and neither had the only staff member I talk to regularly, but, well, they're huge these days so they don't know everyone anymore. Maybe @Mdennis (WMF) would know. (Sorry to bug you, Maggie, but well, if staff is being impersonated, someone there needs to know.) Courcelles (talk) 15:49, 25 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, I did poke around the Foundation website that lists the highers-up and staff and couldn't find anyone with that name.--Bbb23 (talk) 15:56, 25 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
There's plenty that aren't listed there for various reasons, including most of the T&S staff. So that's not definitive. Maybe forward it to ca@? Courcelles (talk) 15:58, 25 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Well, we could wait to see if Maggie responds, although it doesn't appear like she's edited in years, at least not under that username (she has edited as Moonriddengirl last month). I'm not willing to forward it to the general WMF PO, but if there's someone in particular you think would be appropriate, I am willing to forward it to them. I'm not a big fan of the foundation, TBH.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:52, 25 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I'd send it to User:JEissfeldt (WMF), then. He's the "below Maggie" that would be able to figure out if there was a problem. Courcelles (talk) 16:56, 25 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, if no one we've pinged responds in the next few days, I'll forward it to Jan. As I've thought about it, the Foundation might still like to know that an editor has been impersonating a Foundation employee, even if fictitious. Sorry about my negative comment about the Foundation - I'd forgotten whom you're married to.--Bbb23 (talk) 14:08, 26 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not sure why you're here instead of enjoying yourself, but as long as you are, I forwarded the e-mail to Jan yesterday.--Bbb23 (talk) 21:52, 1 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I’m here because we lost going to Reykjavik due to expected 50 ft waves. And what else does one do in bed while in a town of 16,000 when it’s too foggy to have a chance of spotting auroras? Courcelles (talk) 22:06, 1 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
That's a lot of feet! Sorry you missed Reykjavik.--Bbb23 (talk) 22:16, 1 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 31 August 2023

Possible H3sam sock

Lonestar-physicist (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) - LuckyLouie (talk) 19:32, 31 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

he's on vacation. You need to contact a different administrator. this just proves my point that you're not showing adult behaviour. Lonestar-physicist (talk) 19:35, 31 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
and treating wikipedia like highschool Lonestar-physicist (talk) 19:36, 31 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Lone Star is a direct match to Westerosi456H. That’s enough to just block, though this connection in Akureyri is slow… Courcelles (talk) 19:38, 31 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. You semi protected this 12 years ago, I thought it may be time to lift this? LibStar (talk) 00:07, 1 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Is there a reason this would be useful? School articles attract nothing but garbage from IPs and VOAs, after all. Courcelles (talk) 15:20, 1 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Administrators' newsletter – September 2023

News and updates for administrators from the past month (August 2023).

Guideline and policy news

  • Following an RfC, TFAs will be automatically semi-protected the day before it is on the main page and through the day after.
  • A discussion at WP:VPP about revision deletion and oversight for dead names found that [s]ysops can choose to use revdel if, in their view, it's the right tool for this situation, and they need not default to oversight. But oversight could well be right where there's a particularly high risk to the person. Use your judgment.

Technical news

Arbitration

  • The SmallCat dispute case has closed. As part of the final decision, editors participating in XfD have been reminded to be careful about forming local consensus which may or may not reflect the broader community consensus. Regular closers of XfD forums were also encouraged to note when broader community discussion, or changes to policies and guidelines, would be helpful.

Miscellaneous

  • Tech tip: The "Browse history interactively" banner shown at the top of Special:Diff can be used to easily look through a history, assemble composite diffs, or find out what archive something wound up in.

Block evasion

Just thought you might want to look at the latest edits on Miss Universe Australia 2023. An anon active today looks a lot like the editor your blocked there. ☆ Bri (talk) 20:30, 1 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Two protections done, but I’m timing out Wikipedia:General sanctions/Beauty pageants logging them. Maybe someone can do that? Courcelles (talk) 21:34, 1 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding User:Goodgirly

Hey Courcelles, Should Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Bothiman's last entry about Goodgirly be moved to Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Pauldereck? I still feel it's Bothiman's sock though. Jeraxmoira (talk) 06:10, 3 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Goodgirly was a direct, confirmed match to a sock in the Pauldereck SPI. But where to archive/tg is kind of academic. Courcelles (talk) 13:05, 3 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think it matters now, but here is
Bothiman and Firewaterair Interaction Timeline
Bothiman and Pauldereck Interaction Timeline
All these 3 accounts have reverted the user:Eelamstyle777 & user:EelamStyleZ (same guy I suppose) when they were active. I have not checked the others yet. Looks like Pauldereck was a sock of Bothiman when you consider Bothiman and Goodgirly's Interaction Timeline where they both have edited the same commons file i.e. File:kaavalan poster.jpg. Also, all of them have a similar way of missing grammar as well. Jeraxmoira (talk) 20:44, 3 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I think we might have two SPIs covering the same individual. It’s hardly unusual when the cases get old and stale that they end up split, because having an encyclopedic knowledge of sockmasters is hard as both CUs and clerks turn over regularly. One of the Wikipedia:SPI/Clerks might be willing to merge the cases and unify the tagging. Courcelles (talk) 22:42, 4 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Invitation to Cornell study on Wikipedia discussions

Hello Courcelles,

I’m reaching out as part of a Cornell University academic study investigating the potential for user-facing tools to help improve discussion quality within Wikipedia discussion spaces (such as talk pages, noticeboards, etc.).

We wanted to invite you to join the study because you often participate in discussions in administrative sections such as ANI and Sockpuppet Investigations. Such discussions can often involve a lot of back-and-forth debate between participants, which is exactly the type of environment that our study targets.

The study centers around a prototype tool, ConvoWizard, which is designed to warn Wikipedia editors when a discussion they are replying to is getting tense and at risk of derailing into personal attacks or incivility. More information about ConvoWizard and the study can be found at our research project page on meta-wiki.

If this sounds like it might be interesting to you, you can use this link to sign up and install ConvoWizard. Of course, if you are not interested, feel free to ignore this message.

If you have any questions or thoughts about the study, our team is happy to discuss! You may direct such comments to me or to my collaborator, Cristian_at_CornellNLP.

Thank you for your consideration.

--- Jonathan at CornellNLP (talk) 17:07, 6 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Westerosi456H / H3sam / User:Canadianelite345 sock

Amirreza-Astro21 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Initial behavioral evidence (edits at David Grusch, "asking questions" at User talk:Jjhake, etc) justifies a CheckUser and will probably save us lots of time wasted with another sock. FYI @User:Ponyo. - LuckyLouie (talk) 13:35, 7 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

is he back from Iceland? Hope he had a nice vacation. Shouldn't you guys reconsider your bans when they can be evaded so easily? Amirreza-Astro21 (talk) 13:44, 7 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

FYI @User:Jpgordon - LuckyLouie (talk) 13:48, 7 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

(edit conflict) @LuckyLouie: I've blocked and tagged AA. Neither Courcelles nor Ponyo is around.--Bbb23 (talk) 13:51, 7 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. Enough of this, I’ve ECPed what seems to be their primary target. Courcelles (talk) 17:08, 7 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Arbitration Enforcement Sanction Removal Request - User:karagory

You sanctioned me quite awhile ago for an indeterminant time period. I don't know how to reference the sanction. Can you please remove the sanction from my account. It was not an forever ban, and I wish my account to become unsanctioned once again. Thank you for your consideration in this manner. Karagory (talk) 20:44, 7 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This is your very first edit since that sanction was issued. To lift a sanction, you would need to show solid editing elsewhere. And it’s a very mild sanction, preventing you from editing about one person. You’re welcome to try an appeal to Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement, but I don’t see it happening yet. 129.222.234.213 (talk) 22:07, 7 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]