Talk:Simon Ekpa

Semi-protected edit request on 4 February 2023

The person who created this is an evil person seeking to defame the real Mazi Simon Ekpa. This page should be taken down. Iwunna (talk) 15:54, 4 February 2023 (UTC)

Yes remove this page it is defamatory Iwunna (talk) 15:56, 4 February 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Cannolis (talk) 16:07, 4 February 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 4 February 2023 (2)

Simon is a freedom fighter and has never incited violence in South East Nigeria. Oluwapikin (talk) 20:16, 4 February 2023 (UTC)

Yes he is never inciting any violence Ebuka19 (talk) 21:05, 4 February 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: there's not much point making edit requests about a contentious issues that has recently been the subject of an edit war, unless you have any new material to bring to the discussion. small jars tc 21:20, 4 February 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 5 February 2023

Under Personal life "Change Ekpa is married with a child.[1]" to Under Personal life "Ekpa is married to a Finnish woman with a child.[1]" UniBrill (talk) 21:00, 5 February 2023 (UTC)

Yes,Ekpa is married to Finnish woman with a child. UniBrill (talk) 21:04, 5 February 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. 💜  melecie  talk - 01:30, 6 February 2023 (UTC)

Current lead problematic per WP:LEAD

Quote "He is chiefly known for spreading fake news and allegedly inciting violence in southeastern Nigeria." Nothing about that in the rest of the article. Haven't checked if sources are WP:BLP-good or if they support the content. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 14:04, 9 February 2023 (UTC)

Agreed, it is problematic. It doesn't actually properly explain what he's notable for, and I don't think it's fully WP:NPOV compliant. This especially isn't how biographies of living people should be written Tristario (talk) 22:46, 9 February 2023 (UTC)

It has been removed by me. Please feel free to edit as deem fit. Got to know of these through some Nigerian news sites. HandsomeBoy (talk) 18:19, 23 February 2023 (UTC)

Freedom Fighter

A freedom fighter seeking for the libration of the Biafra people that are killed on daily bases by the Nigerian government — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.205.113.153 (talk) 10:50, 20 February 2023 (UTC)

Simon Epka has millons of followers because he is the spokes person of the Biafra people, the Biafra people are seeking for independence from Nigeria 129.205.113.153 (talk) 10:53, 20 February 2023 (UTC)

Simon Ekpa

Simon Ekpa is not spreading fake News, everything he's saying in his lectures can be provenir with facts and figures. I want to express my concern about tarnishing a repurtation of a respectful citizen of Finland, who has been doing Fantastic Job on many different fields, including human rights activism. Please correct your article about his News, it is obvious that the person who wrote the article about him haven't done any research on his News. 85.76.147.26 (talk) 20:56, 22 February 2023 (UTC)

I agree with you that the "spreading fake news" in the lede is a far reach, hence I removed the text. However, I also think you are from the opposite side patronizing him. As a neutral, I agree the text was not appropriate.HandsomeBoy (talk) 18:22, 23 February 2023 (UTC)

A biased view

The references cited are based and unreliable 86.30.125.75 (talk) 08:59, 23 February 2023 (UTC)

It is not so much about the reference, it is more about writing a balanced article and the ability of the article creator and content contributors to do adequate research. Simon Ekpa is a controversial figure with strong viewpoints so I can understand why sources may sound biased at different times depends on the political atmosphere.HandsomeBoy (talk) 23:42, 12 May 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 22 April 2023

Prime Minister of Biafra Republic Government In-Exile www.biafrarepublicgov.org Leke23 (talk) 07:18, 22 April 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Lightoil (talk) 07:41, 22 April 2023 (UTC)

No neutrality in many Nigeria News Media especially on Simon Ekpa and Biafra

It almost impossible to be neutral in writing about Simon Ekpa especially when sources are from Nigeria government controlled Media. So, the sources must based on fact from the content of media report.

Example, the Nigeria media always reported that Ekpa is self styled Prime Minister, this is false and misleading. Ekpa was voted by Biafrans in zoom Biafra cabinet meeting and currently Biafrans are loyal to him than they are to the government of Nigeria which is the reason he call for sit at home and millions of Biafrans obey him even when the governors cancel it, the people obey Ekpa. This link is the latest which was widely reported by almost all news media https://dailypost.ng/2023/06/05/sit-at-home-ekpa-knocks-mbah-claims-governor-disgraced/ also read "But the Finland based leader of the autopilot, an arm of the Indigenous People of Biafra, IPoB, Simon Ekpa responded to Governor Mbah with a matching threat, saying that no Nigeria government operates in Biafra land and insisted that the Monday sit-at-home must continue to be observed in the seven Igbo-speaking states of south east and south-south." https://www.vanguardngr.com/2023/06/enugu-residents-ignore-gov-mbahs-order-observe-ipobs-sit-at-home/ The point here is that, the Wikipedia profile of Ekpa should rightfully edited as the Prime Minister of the Biafra Republic Government In-Exile that is fact and neutral. Also i can see that the website of the government is already on the wikipedia page, so addressing him as a self styled Prime Minister is not neutral rather the language of the opposition to downgrade him and the movement. 2001:14BA:5E25:9E00:A8A5:321F:6C45:7195 (talk) 11:07, 10 June 2023 (UTC)

I have seen both "self-described" and "is" in sources [1][2], if any of these are very WP:RS is harder to say. We'll have to do the best we can with the sources we got. Per WP:BLP, no decent source, no content, and WP:ABOUTSELF sources like Biafra Republic Government in Exile has little weight. Better sources may appear in the future. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 11:37, 10 June 2023 (UTC)

It would be interesting to see some good WP:RS on the Biafra Republic Government in Exile, they may have on-WP use somewhere. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 12:03, 10 June 2023 (UTC)

Noting old afd Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Biafra Republic Government in Exile here, and there been other attempts to make that article:[3] Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 13:42, 13 June 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 June 2023

I appeal that you please review my last edits on article Simon Ekpa. The intro is obviously misleading as Simon Ekpa is not and have never called himself Leader of Biafra independence movement. Check out the references in the article and you notice that he describes himself as the Disciple of Nnamdi Kanu. Please re-review ASAP to maintain a clear information.

The page has been protected and therefore I can't edit it again but I 105.112.224.1 (talk) 18:29, 11 June 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Actualcpscm (talk) 19:01, 11 June 2023 (UTC)

Noting

Ekpa-realted discussion at Talk:List_of_Donald_Trump_2024_presidential_campaign_primary_endorsements#Simon_Ekpa. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 15:27, 13 June 2023 (UTC)

Note to people trying to add an image

WP and Commons are both very careful about copyright. It's a pain, but it's how it is.

At Commons you can, basically, upload pictures you have taken yourself with your own camera. So the "simple" solution is to take a new, previously unpublished anywhere, picture of Ekpa and upload it yourself on Commons. If something like the pic here [4] is to be used on Commons/WP, you have to get the photographer to follow the directions at Commons:Volunteer Response Team. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 07:42, 14 June 2023 (UTC)

Leke23, you uploaded 2 pics of Ekpa [5] as "own work". "Own work" in this context means "I took these pictures myself with my own camera." Did you do that, or did you just upload them anyway? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:22, 22 June 2023 (UTC)

@Gråbergs Gråa Sång I really don’t know what your interests are on @Simon Ekpathat you hated everything about him as you admitted previously, yet you are allowed to edit profile of someone you admitted you have problem with. I uploaded the image and claimed ownership of the work, are you in the position to dispute my submission. Are you the copyright owner or claiming the copyright of my own work? Why would you remove my work? Did anyone claim the ownership? You are just so immature and very bias. You removed my work and started to educate me on the meaning of ownership? Ridiculous, please put the image back, it is my own work. If you continue this, i will appeal for your removal as you have demonstrated clearly that you are very biased and have problems with Ekpa and yet editing his Wikipedia page. Leke23 (talk) 09:53, 22 June 2023 (UTC)

So you are saying you are the photographer of these two 2 pictures. Very well, that means that Wikipedia:Conflict of interest applies to you, and you should not edit this article. And since you state you are the photographer, the guidance at Commons:But it's my own work! is there for you. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:02, 22 June 2023 (UTC)

You are the person with conflict of interest and should be restricted by saying you have problems with Ekpa being in the list and you have removed the International politicians from the list, how disgusting could it be to be hating someone who doesn’t know you and you are not even ashamed to edit his profile Leke23 (talk) 22:19, 22 June 2023 (UTC)

It is also interesting that one of the pics you state is your own work is watermarked "Susa Dosa". Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 12:26, 22 June 2023 (UTC)

Noting also that this pic [6] that keeps being added as "Official 2023 portrait" has been online since 2017:[7]. Ping to SuperMarioMan and Bbb23 if you're interested. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 21:25, 24 June 2023 (UTC)

Your claims may be false or true hence it can't be proven. The fact remains that the image was first seen by me, 1st Contributor on Flick while doing research. l am just a committed contributor that wanted to help. Thanks for your understanding dear Gråberbs Gråa Sång.  1st Contributor (talk) 04:50, 25 June 2023 (UTC)

So you don't think I just proved that pic has been online since 2017. Great. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 05:40, 25 June 2023 (UTC)

I must sincerely apologize for not previously seeing the link attached. I have just confirmed it now. So, what's the way since it is imperative? 1st Contributor (talk) 05:52, 25 June 2023 (UTC)

Translation of Finnish article

The Finnish language article is good and well researched imo. I encourage somebody translates material from it. As an example, the finnish article elaborates more on Ekpa law studies, that he has taken law courses, worked in his wifes law firm, but is not legally able to practise law as a lawyer. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kennet.mattfolk (talk • contribs) 19:29, 15 June 2023 (UTC)

As long as it's in the en-WP WP:BLP-manner, go ahead. Don't "bring over" unsourced or poorly sourced content. WP:ABOUTSELF stuff have very limited use. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:39, 16 June 2023 (UTC)

Well, I wrote already most of the "According to reporting by Yle [...]" section under the header life. I struggled to translate many of the legal terms involved, so I stuck to the stuff I knew to translate. It would be easy to miss-translate terms that are clear in Finnish, but not so for me in English and then get a misinterpreted view of Mr. Ekpa. I try to be as exact and as sourced as I can personally, but feel somebody else with a better English legal terminology etc. would be better to translate the more advanced material. Example of terms I find hard to translate into english is "Ulosotto", "perintä", when involving Ekpa's business that went defunct. In the finnish section explaining Ekpa's law studies and him not actually being a lawyer, I wouldn't know how to explain the difference "asianajaja", "lupalakimies", in Finnish I understand these, but in English I would translate both as "lawyer". The sources are good on Finnish wiki, just need to translate it. Kennet.mattfolk (talk) 14:58, 16 June 2023 (UTC)

Major changes coming to this article page soonest.

Hello revered Adminatrators,

With utmost respect, l want to use this medium to bring to your attention the upcoming major changes to this article page coming up in days time. I will be rephrasing, changing some section titles, adding relevant sections and also translating some relevant Finnish news media (in regards to this article) to English language as demanded by Gråberbs Gråa Sång. My attention has been drawn to the article expansion template and with this brief clarification, l and hopefully other editors of 'Political interest' shall take it all up from here as we modify the article. Other editors who which to join me in this journey should do well to join as we improve the article together.

Thanks to you all!

1st Contributor (talk) 06:02, 20 July 2023 (UTC)

@1st Contributor, do so in good faith; unconstructive promotional phrases and heading titles will be reverted. Best, Reading Beans (talk) 07:23, 20 July 2023 (UTC)

Always on my mind. 1st Contributor (talk) 18:57, 20 July 2023 (UTC)

As long as you follow WP:BLP, WP:CTOP and other relevant policies and guidelines, things may be well. I don't remember "demanded" but it's probably not important. Perhaps @Kennet.mattfolk will be interested in taking a look as things progress.

If I may offer some advice: Don't do everything at once, since this has been a difficult subject, in more places than this article. Give other editors a fair chance to react. Do one section, then wait a couple of days, see if anything happens, discuss as necessary, then proceed with another. And last of all, look at the WP:LEAD if necessary, since it's supposed to be a summary of the rest of the article.

One question: Do you have a Wikipedia:Conflict of interest regarding Simon Ekpa? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:53, 20 July 2023 (UTC)

Sure I can eye the during the next few days and pitch in if I feel I have something to add/improve. @1st Contributor how are you translating the Finnish material? If you use google translate, then beware that it tends to translate correctly but sometimes with losing the connotations of phrases, terms and words. Personally I'm not too fumiliar with the legal jarggon to attempt translation. :) Kennet.mattfolk (talk) 10:49, 20 July 2023 (UTC)

I have read through and understood every of your concerns. I'm committed to abiding by Wikipedia rules, policies and guidelines on editing. Without emotions attached, l promise to heed to every counsel here. I see you as a mentor Gråberbs Gråa. Remember, no emotions attached.

In regards to the question: "I don't have any conflict of interest as l am just a dedicated Wikipedian that focuses more on politics In the world"

Thanks for your understanding. I shall now commence! 1st Contributor (talk) 19:03, 20 July 2023 (UTC)

Link to updated information found on the internet

I submit this link here for Adminatrators and other editors to see it before it will be added under the newly created section "Activism". I really don't want to disrupt the due course of editing here. I hope this gets well to you, @Gråbergs Gråa Sång. 1st Contributor (talk) 00:25, 21 July 2023 (UTC)

My view: It's hard to tell the WP:RS-ness of sources like these. Is it like an "ordinary newspaper" or is it more like someones WP:BLOG? If they have an about-page (sometimes that helps), I didn't find it. Editors may come to different conclusions. And context matters, do you consider it "high-quality" per WP:BLP? It's not used a lot on WP [8], which can mean several things. WP:RSN may be of help, afaict it hasn't been discussed there before. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 07:49, 21 July 2023 (UTC)

It's not a blog. 1st Contributor (talk) 11:17, 21 July 2023 (UTC)

Possible WP:COPYPASTE problem

[9]. However, at least some of it may be a Template:Backwards copy thing. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:03, 26 July 2023 (UTC)

Add Simon Ekpa's image to the article

Hello, distinguished editors,

There's an image found on Flickr that needs to be added to the article page. Here is the link. The image has never been seen elsewhere. This page is protected and that's the reason I can't add it myself. Can an editor help add it? Licenced (talk) 05:19, 9 September 2023 (UTC)

@Licenced, upload it to Commons then, I'll add it here. Best, Reading Beans (talk) 06:57, 9 September 2023 (UTC)

Now that's interesting. Per previous uploads of pictures of Ekpa, the question arises if it's reasonable to assume the uploader is who they say the are, or if this is more FLICKRWASHING. It's not very common that an org would put it's own logo in the public domain, like the flickr-uploader is on-the-face-of-it doing. FYI ping to @Yann and @Elcobbola. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 07:59, 9 September 2023 (UTC)

Out of curiosity, have you used other WP-accounts, and if so, which ones? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:05, 9 September 2023 (UTC)

Also, was it you who put the images on flickr? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:49, 9 September 2023 (UTC)

I confirmed Licenced to be a Unibrill sock, along with WondersShallNeverEnd which had already uploaded the image and was also proxying here, and blocked both about two hours before your ping above. Why are we feeding the trolls? Эlcobbola _talk 12:46, 9 September 2023 (UTC)

September 2023

In my recent edit, I changed the Biafran to Nigerian (I honestly think that this parameter should be removed entirely). Ekpa was born in 1985, so how's he a citizen of a country that ceased to exist before his birth? The Whistler is a reliable source but how did they arrive at 70%? No one has questioned that no other source says this because it is in favour of the subject of the article? Best, Reading Beans (talk) 06:56, 9 September 2023 (UTC)

That makes sense to me. You can argue that Biafran is an ethnicity, but Nationality was the asked-for param. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:09, 9 September 2023 (UTC)