Talk:Matt Petgrave

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Should we be making the claims on this page?

I know that everyone "knows" that Petgrave is the suspect that the South Yorkshire Police arrested, but the police have not released the name of the suspect so technically this is speculation. Snickerdoodle12 (talk) 22:12, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think he should be named. It probably was Petgrave who was arrested, but we don't know this as a fact. 2A0E:1D47:8A00:8400:E0F5:DBA4:BE25:73B2 (talk) 17:25, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Well that's the thing.

English Police probably didn't name him likely because of privacy laws there in the UK. I don't know if that information is going to be released or not however given the nature of the incident it wouldn't pass anyone that it was in fact Petgrave, at the same time it's not like we can really say anything until more information is disclosed for public knowledge.

I would say wait until there are more sources. DioShiba (talk) 18:35, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

What is the last column in the career stats?

Any description would be beneficial. Pewtey (talk) 22:26, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Number of games played, I think. DS (talk) 00:26, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Possible pre-2023 sources for expansion

These are some sources for possible expansion from the period before the 2023 incident: https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p0g1mwxh

https://chl.ca/ohl-attack/matt-petgrave-named-ohl-player-of-the-week/

https://prohockeynews.com/defensive-pairing-back-with-steelers/

https://www.thestar.co.uk/sport/ice-hockey/not-everyone-appears-to-be-a-fan-of-sheffield-steelers-star-matt-petgrave-3878459

https://theahl.com/stats/player/6947

https://www.nbcsports.com/nhl/matt-petgrave/00000188-9cf1-da6b-abd8-fcfd9a560240 https://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/players/6234/

https://www.cbssports.com/nhl/players/3140872/matt-petgrave/

https://www.floridaeverblades.com/news/2020/12/everblades-add-defenseman-matt-petgrave

https://www.uticacomets.com/news/detail/canucks-recall-brisebois-comets-sign-matt-petgrave

https://capitalsoutsider.com/2013/09/05/catching-matt-petgrave/

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/steelers-top-defensive-pairing-signs-050000047.html

https://www.express.co.uk/sport/othersport/1648804/Matt-Walls-scary-crash-fan-blood-Commonwealth-Games

https://theathletic.com/206515/2018/02/02/in-one-my-four-insane-days-trapped-in-minor-hockey-hell-with-the-brampton-beast/ Topjur01 (talk) 00:11, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Conflicting reports

The Florida Everblades's website states that his plus-minus with the Brampton Beast in 2019-20 was +16. However, eliteprospects.com states that his plus minus in the same season was +5. The Everblades incorrectly stated that he lead the Beast in points and assists among defenseman, when one can go to eliteprospects and see that this is not the case. He was trailing T.J Melancon in both statlines. If anyone is wanting to add any additional citations to the page, I urge that you use eliteprospects.com for his stats. IncompA 19:14, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

An update

on Petgrave being charged for manslaughter should be mentioned. 107.10.129.126 (talk) 13:18, 22 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Petgrave has not been charged. Police announced the arrest of a person on suspicion of manslaughter. They did not not the suspect, per UK law, and have not charged them.

Lazarus Caplan, Anna (November 15, 2023). "Man Arrested on Suspicion of Manslaughter in Hockey Player Adam Johnson's Death Released on Bail". People (magazine). Retrieved November 20, 2023.

Wikipedia follows what is reported in reliable sources and does not synthesize information or make inferences. Consider also Wikipedia's policy on biographies of living persons. Minnemeeples (talk) 16:04, 22 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

He actually *was* charged. https://www.cbssports.com/nhl/news/adam-johnson-death-matt-petgrave-released-on-bail-after-being-charged-with-manslaughter-of-ex-penguins-player/107.10.129.126 (talk) 17:02, 22 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

That content does not say that the suspect was charged, only the headline, which is incorrect and misleading. He was released "pending further inquiries" as per this AP report. Nthep (talk) 17:19, 22 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

"That content does not say that the suspect was charged" is literal disinformation. It very clearly does, in fact, say that he was charged. Do you think CBS is not a reliablsle source Oh wait, what you think is irrelevant as CBS *is* considered a reliable source. I said that he was charged, I brought a reliable source. You are simply arguing, futilely, for reasons unknown. 107.10.129.126 (talk) 00:56, 23 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]