Talk:Gaza Freedom Flotilla
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Israeli killings
According to sources (all sources): After resistance on one boat, they killed nine activists.
So absolutely no need for extended whitewash: Following resistance on one of the boats, nine activists were killed.. They were not killed by the plague, they were killed by the Israeli forces. --Coldtrack (talk) 18:02, 12 April 2018 (UTC)
- How about "Following resistance on one of the boats, nine activists were killed by Israeli forces."--יניב הורון (talk) 19:12, 12 April 2018 (UTC)
- Not sure how the passive voice is a "whitewash", but the above version is fine too. No More Mr Nice Guy (talk) 19:51, 12 April 2018 (UTC)
- Passive voice is fine and typically preferred as a matter of fact, see wp:MoS for details. BrxBrx(talk)(please reply with { {re|BrxBrx}}) 03:58, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
- Agree to יניב הורון proposal. Not sure that passive is preferred, but I believe BrxBrx is being truthful. Either way, as there is consensus now, there is no need to explore it further. Cheers to all. --Coldtrack (talk) 17:38, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
- Passive voice is fine and typically preferred as a matter of fact, see wp:MoS for details. BrxBrx(talk)(please reply with { {re|BrxBrx}}) 03:58, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
Missing the point
The article seems to go to significant lengths to explain how there wasn't anything but building materials and medicines onboard, and suggests this is reason to condemn Israel for attacking a peaceful convoy, etc, etc, but that's not the point, is it? Israel couldn't have known what was onboard, since they refused to let the cargo be inspected. For all Israel knew the ships were stocked with chemical weapons and firearms, artillery and rockets. I wouldn't want to take anyone's WORD that it was just building materials either, especially if they refused my offer to allow it to pass, as long as they let me take a look at it first. The fact that there didn't turn out to be much on board after all is pretty irrelevant to whether they were justified in choosing to make the raid in the first place. I consider myself neutral on the subject, but it looks more like a direct provocation than anything else. And Israel played right into it, giving them ammunition against them in the media and hurting public opinion. It was loose-loose. If they failed to act and allowed them to land, it just looks like they are caving to pressure and encourages more attempts, even if the ships weren't landing military supplies. Once people think they can just force their way into Gaza by bluffing, maybe the next ships WILL have weapons. If they act and raid the ships in an attempt to force them to stop, they can be painted as the Bad Guys pushing around a bunch of poor helpless aid ships. It seems to me that if people really wanted to aid to REACH Gaza they'd have been content to let it go overland. They appear to be more worried about a successful public relations coup, one way or another.
64.223.120.131 (talk) 05:53, 1 December 2018 (UTC)
Motives
This final paragraph:
In a public address in October 2010 on Al-Aqsa TV, Abd Al-Razzaq Al-Maqri, Head of Moroccan and Algerian Delegation to the Gaza Convoy, stated, according to a translation published by MEMRI, that "the mujahideen have told us that they decided not to defeat the oppressive Jews by gunfire, but instead, by daggers.
is based on a single link that is no longer live. In the archived version (https://web.archive.org/web/20101125100036/http://www.memritv.org/clip_transcript/en/2682.htm), there is no clear reference to the Flotilla participants or their motives, only the the Gaza Convoy that took place months later. The whole paragraph should be deleted.
Small correction proposal in a church name.
As I have no editing rights on this page the name Marantha might be correctly changed to Maranatha. Thank you. Fred Mobach (talk) 23:20, 15 November 2019 (UTC)
Freedom Flotilla West Papua
This section doesn't seem to be really related to the Gaza Freedom Flotilla, except in having a similar name. This isn't an article about freedom flotillas in general. Mauls (talk) 10:21, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
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Please make the following change to the article, in the second paragraph of the "Motives" section:
− | who carried $10,000 apiece on their | + | who carried $10,000 apiece on their persons. |
Duckduckgoop (talk) 11:56, 17 November 2022 (UTC)
- Done – dudhhr talk contribs (he/they) 17:09, 17 November 2022 (UTC)
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